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Star Trek (2009) Review Thread

ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,061

 Where do you grade this movie and why?

I give it a B. It was a fun and enjoyable experience and has obviously re-invigorated the franchise. The only reason I give it a B instead of an A is because of the fact it's a reboot. 

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    I gave it a B also but only because I did have a problem with some of the story elements being a long time Trekkie. If I had never seen anything Star Trek before it would have scored an A+ easily however. Overall I absolutely loved the movie and the elements that I found odd were very small when considering the overall movie. I personally think JJ Abrams did a great job and I can't wait until the next one.

     

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    I gave it an A, because I chose not to take away from it just because it's a reboot.  In fact, I gave it an extra point because it's a reboot.  The Star Trek series needed to be refreshed, and I'm looking forward to a new series in this new direction.  The cast was great, with the exception of Chekov.  I'm a huge Simon Peg fan (Scotty).

  • DragonSharkDragonShark Member UncommonPosts: 227

     I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived. The almost non-stop action really grated on my nerves after a while. There was far too much Star Wars throughout this film. The sets were very poorly designed, with the lens flares being just awful. And I think it would have been better off if they had just declared it a reboot rather than try to (poorly) tie it into real Trek.

    I did like the characters, and they have potential, but only if writers actually give them a story worth doing.

    Despite the numbers, I don't think this has invigorated the series at all. Like all purely-action flicks, I think this has an expiration date on it, at which point audiences will get bored with the concept, as they do with nearly every other action franchise.

    It needs more.

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842

    Bleh, at first I thought this was some sort of game review/preview. Why are we talking about the movie on a gaming site? Are there not movie sites you can do this on. I guess we should talk about the horrible looking figurines next, eh?

  • mystic_benmystic_ben Member Posts: 2

    but the starship enterprise moves at the speed of plot. I'd give it a B- solid grounds for another movie to expand on

  • purewitzpurewitz Member UncommonPosts: 489

    It has given me a new found respect for Star Trek. As a kid I gave up on Star Trek, when Next Generation and DS9 got canceled.

    When we get back from where we are going, we will return to where we were. I know people there!

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I give it a B.  I think it was good, definitely worthy of a sequal.  As a hardcore trekie I didn't mind the reboot at all.  I hope we get another TV series out of this somehow.  I love, love Star Trek. 

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,275

    I give it a A, and i hate Star Trek! Why a "A"? Because it was a damn good movie. And that is what its all about. I dont care if it is a reboot. Everyone knows what these characters "have" done. You know them already : )

  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,832
    Originally posted by DragonShark


     I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived.



     

    Me too. But I would give it a "C" because I didn't feel like walking out on it but I also don't feel any particular desire to watch it again.

    The thing that always bugged me about Star Trek was that it's filled with techno-babble but the writters never think things through very much in terms of real science.

    That whole thing about the star going nova and destroying the planet and then those miners blamed it on Spock who was actually trying to help, geez.  If the star was going to go nova they would have had plenty of advance warning.  They would know far, far, far in advance.  I'm talking hundreds or thousands of years in advance.  Plenty of time to evacuate the planet.

    And then the miners blamed it on Spock?  Don't they have some sort of News service or something?  You'd think word would have gotten around that he was coming to try to stop the nova.

    But ok, yeah, I can look past that stuff and the movie was ok but it didn't really grab me and suck me in.

  • solarinesolarine Member Posts: 1,203

    C.

    It's a well-crafted action movie that's also pretty artificial and devoid of a single original or interesting idea. It's just plot for plot's sake: the story has no inherent meaning, its sole concern is how it's related to the franchise itself. Even the drama has no substance in and of itself, it's just a play on genre and franchise schematics. Really, what does the film tell us? What perspective does it have except the quite superficial "it's OK to cheat" and "dammit, you have to strike a balance between logic and emotions"?

    Also, Abrams obviously goes old-school Star Wars here to get to that audience that's been traditionally out of Star Trek range, but without the all-important archetypes and an informed perspective on "hero's journey", the epic-making rings hollow.

    To me the Star Trek franchise was not exactly the most intelligent science fiction, but at least it had some original ideas. This one is just filmcrafting brawns.

    In effect it's nice to look at but quickly forgotten.

     

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,061
    Originally posted by purewitz


    It has given me a new found respect for Star Trek. As a kid I gave up on Star Trek, when Next Generation and DS9 got canceled.



     

    I give the edge to DS9, but both were favorites of mine.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2009&p=.htm

    Looks like Star Trek is neck and neck with Monsters and Aliens for top grossing movie in the states this year.

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  • iltycatiltycat Member Posts: 16

    OMFG you people are evil!

    D= I wanna see the movie!

    It's not fair!

     

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    It would be kinda gross...like....all the guys there weeze....and the girls wear these goggles for glasses..I mean ..There ARE normal looking people there but... ._.;; not very many..

    And if some gross weezing dude touches me I might get kicked out. D= </ /3

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  • RaxanRaxan Member Posts: 7

    I gave it a C, mainly because I like Star Trek, the downside for me was the juvenile behavior of Captain Kirk's character.   James T. Kirk was a maverick but never a juvenile.  But I guess that acting in Sci-Fi movies will never be top drawer (my opinion of course). Too bad because Sci-FI is my favorite genre.

     

     

  • ThradarThradar Member Posts: 949

     I give it a solid B+....fun, entertaining.

    Only a few things annoyed me.  Scotty's sidekick character.  Kirk and gang going from cadets to starship captain (and main crew) in a matter of hours.  Building starships (that are incapable of atmospheric flight)  in the fields of...Iowa.

    Anyway, I try not to let little annoyances like this detract from forms of entertaiment.  It was good, I just wasn't blown away like a lot of people.

  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195

    I am no Trekkie or Trekker. I do like and have seen most Trek. I will not give it higher than a "B". It was excellent but I will respect the presence of all living cast members of the original..because they are the "A" cast. Just for my own reasons. Hey...a "B" is better than most movies should  earn these days. As for thin plots. Sorry..but I can not think of any truly deep Star Trek episodes..or movies...OS ,TNG, DS9,Voyager or Enterprise . Science Fiction of this sort is not rocket science. Did they hit me emotionally at times?...sure...but not really because of any depth of plot. What most of the old stuff did contain was a sense of relevance to the times and events..parallels that can be made to real life events and attitudes..etc.. Which the new movie lacked.

  • rsrestonrsreston Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by DragonShark


     I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived. The almost non-stop action really grated on my nerves after a while. There was far too much Star Wars throughout this film. The sets were very poorly designed, with the lens flares being just awful. And I think it would have been better off if they had just declared it a reboot rather than try to (poorly) tie it into real Trek.
    I did like the characters, and they have potential, but only if writers actually give them a story worth doing.
    Despite the numbers, I don't think this has invigorated the series at all. Like all purely-action flicks, I think this has an expiration date on it, at which point audiences will get bored with the concept, as they do with nearly every other action franchise.
    It needs more.

    Totally agree. It needed more. It needed to have the Trek part. Part they forgot about a long time ago. Now it's only Star wars... You even have the Enterprise fireing phaser like a machine gun - what happened to the laser beam sweeping from one end of the phaser slit to the other??

    Alternate realities are lazy plot devices for writers. It has to be the reason of the story, not its Deus Ex-machina. Lots of science and logic breaches, still disrespect for the original series... Spock in love with Uhura?? Come one!

    Good acting though. And I loved most of the visual and sound.

    As an action movie, it is great. As Star Trek, it's not - it's a mere "alternate" story of how it all began. As it is, I gave it a B.

    What Star Trek needs aren't movies, but TV series that keep catering to its original audience: science fiction fans and those interested in good stories. Action, drama are just consequences of stories well told. And obviously, other media like quality comics, books, quality games.

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  • BloodDualityBloodDuality Member UncommonPosts: 404

    I really enjoyed the new movie, and felt it was much better than the past next generations movies. After first contact the franchise has gone down hil a bit for me. This new movie is a way to help give Star Trek new like in the same way that Batman Begins gave new life to the Batman series. I ended up giving the movie an A and even though some of the acting wasn't perfect I still found it enjoyable and would like to see it again. Lets hope they make more.

    I also like the set design, really glad they didn't try and reproduce the sets of the original series.

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,061
    Originally posted by BloodDuality


    I really enjoyed the new movie, and felt it was much better than the past next generations movies. After first contact the franchise has gone down hil a bit for me. This new movie is a way to help give Star Trek new like in the same way that Batman Begins gave new life to the Batman series. I ended up giving the movie an A and even though some of the acting wasn't perfect I still found it enjoyable and would like to see it again. Lets hope they make more.
    I also like the set design, really glad they didn't try and reproduce the sets of the original series.



     

    Yeah thank goodness for that. Trust me when I say it's even better the second time you see it. ;)

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  • GscullyGscully Member Posts: 47

    I gave an A, It had a lot of humor that ngen and the rest seemed to avoid.

    The one plot flaw (of many) I disliked was that Chekhov was even there. This same error was in Wrath of Khan too, Chekhov was not in the first season, WoK was, so when Chekhov said "I remember you" in WoK he is lying. He wasn't in the episode.

    But that litle tidbit didn't ruin the fun I had watching it.

  • ktanner3ktanner3 Member UncommonPosts: 4,061
    Originally posted by Gscully


    I gave an A, It had a lot of humor that ngen and the rest seemed to avoid.
    The one plot flaw (of many) I disliked was that Chekhov was even there. This same error was in Wrath of Khan too, Chekhov was not in the first season, WoK was, so when Chekhov said "I remember you" in WoK he is lying. He wasn't in the episode.
    But that litle tidbit didn't ruin the fun I had watching it.



     

    It's an alternate timeline so anything goes.

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  • VeldekarVeldekar Member Posts: 220
    Originally posted by daarco


    I give it a A, and i hate Star Trek! Why a "A"? Because it was a damn good movie. And that is what its all about. I dont care if it is a reboot. Everyone knows what these characters "have" done. You know them already : )

      My sentiments exactly !

     

  • MLecl0001MLecl0001 Member Posts: 153

    I give the movia an A.  I grade movies on one criteria only, did I enjoy it?  That is the one and only question I ask myself at the end of the movie.  I dont give two craps about plot, special effects, writing, cinematography, photography, somethingelseography, director, actors, budget, or any other contrived crap people moan and complain about when they review movies.  I go to see movies to be entertained, not to think, if I wanted to think I would read a book or watch a documentary ( for example like the The Universe series on History Channel, love that series.)  But when it comes to movies I just want 1.5 to 2 hours of fun, just like my MMOs, but apparantly thats not what there made for anymore.  Apparantly movies have become like MMOs and they are just time sinks, who knows maybe movie studios will have us grinding lower level movies until we have enough points to see the uber epic movie.

     

    Any ways the movie was fun, I had fun, and when I first saw the enterprise in its new shiny high tech digital creation the first thought in my head was "I want one of those."

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

  • AgtSmithAgtSmith Member Posts: 1,498
    Originally posted by DragonShark


     I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived. The almost non-stop action really grated on my nerves after a while. There was far too much Star Wars throughout this film. The sets were very poorly designed, with the lens flares being just awful. And I think it would have been better off if they had just declared it a reboot rather than try to (poorly) tie it into real Trek.
    I did like the characters, and they have potential, but only if writers actually give them a story worth doing.
    Despite the numbers, I don't think this has invigorated the series at all. Like all purely-action flicks, I think this has an expiration date on it, at which point audiences will get bored with the concept, as they do with nearly every other action franchise.
    It needs more.

     

    So very well said, 100% agree (particuarly on the re-igniting ST part, all it did was turn ST into a summer action flick and those have a very short shelf life).  And not to reargue a different thread (this one), it really is not doing all that great - Wolverine is beating ST soundly still (is Wolv $355 Mil and JJ ST like $335 Mil) and most people accept that Wolverine has done poorly enough to possibly be the last X-men, at least for a while.  Yes, $300 Mil is a big number but so is the $160 Mil budget - Hollywood wants far more from summer actions flicks than doubling up the budget.

     

    Oh, I gave it a C - mostly scored down for the lack of substance and contrived plot when a reboot needs lots of substance and plot to setup all you want to follow (like casino Royale did for Bond and Batman Begins did for Batman - this ST was very fluffy so nothing is really setup beyond action and cool effects).

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  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,881

    Well i'm ready for the next one! woot.  and from what i've read they plan on releasing a 3rd and 4th one too!

    Hope they come out with a new T.V. series, that'll just make it all the more better!

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  • ElGuappoElGuappo Member Posts: 94

    Really all they wanted to do was find a way to ditch the myriad of varying quality Star Trek tv series, spin-offs and tie-ins and just be able to start from scratch. There's that much history, back story and future story that it just became a bit of Gordian Knot that, I would think, limited them hugely in what they wanted to do with the origins of these characters. So they slashed through it in one go; alternate reality. Everything's the same but, you know, different. Really, who cares?

    For the studios, how much of the likely huge box-office takings will be generated by Trek fans and how much will be generated by people who just want to be entertained by something they recognise but don't really care that much about?

    Because to those people, ditching the tv series and films is no more likely to ruin their viewing experience than the fact Chris Nolan didn't stay true to the original Batman tv series, let alone Burton's films or (spit, spit) Schumachers etc. Really, as far as the majority of cinema goers are concerned, who gives a toss as long as the movie entertains them for a couple of hours?

    So the 'alternate reality' storyline comes along that allows enough freedom to ditch the 'lore' but still keeps the characters and dynamics fairly true to what's expected. It also allows them to progress with their versions of these characters as all bets are off now. Plus, Scotty has an amusing alien sidekick in this version, which has to be a good thing, doesn't it?

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