I think that its not about being defensive or anything, but the points you are offering at the moment, blueturtle, are very subjective, vague at best and even invalid from a technical point of view (refering to the animations one, name a MMO with better animations here and I'll show you how it doesn't get to the Aion's level). One could not say wether you've really played or not, all your arguments are based around genre standards that could be applied to almost every single fantasy+level based MMOs of the last decade, you say that other games do that better, mind developing that argument? how are aion quests worse than, let's say, wow quests?. Feel free to go into detail and then your opinion might hold some more water.
Of course they are subjective thats what an opinion is O_o seems simple. You have an opnion this one is mine anywho....I think D&Donline has better animations I think Tabula rasa had better animations I think AoC has better animations...I am not going "develop my argument" because I am not arguing nor am I trying to sway someone from forming their own opinion I am just sharing mine.
Haven't played D&Donline, can't say.
TR animation is about shooting a gun, the characters shape never changes, it's either neutral or offensive, gear is always fitting with the body, the complexity of TR animations are nowhere the level of Aion's from a technical point of view.
AoC had pretty good animations based on the use of a good skeleton system, but then again, the ammount of detail on those animations was pretty limited compared to Aion's, fatality, left swing or right swing, nothing else.
Now, about not going to develop your argument, that only feeds my wild guess, you haven't played this game, have you? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not everyone can have a valid opinion, because you can't form a valid opinion without knowing what you're talking about.
I think that its not about being defensive or anything, but the points you are offering at the moment, blueturtle, are very subjective, vague at best and even invalid from a technical point of view (refering to the animations one, name a MMO with better animations here and I'll show you how it doesn't get to the Aion's level). One could not say wether you've really played or not, all your arguments are based around genre standards that could be applied to almost every single fantasy+level based MMOs of the last decade, you say that other games do that better, mind developing that argument? how are aion quests worse than, let's say, wow quests?. Feel free to go into detail and then your opinion might hold some more water.
Of course they are subjective thats what an opinion is O_o seems simple. You have an opnion this one is mine anywho....I think D&Donline has better animations I think Tabula rasa had better animations I think AoC has better animations...I am not going "develop my argument" because I am not arguing nor am I trying to sway someone from forming their own opinion I am just sharing mine.
Haven't played D&Donline, can't say.
TR animation is about shooting a gun, the characters shape never changes, it's either neutral or offensive, gear is always fitting with the body, the complexity of TR animations are nowhere the level of Aion's from a technical point of view.
AoC had pretty good animations based on the use of a good skeleton system, but then again, the ammount of detail on those animations was pretty limited compared to Aion's, fatality, left swing or right swing, nothing else.
Now, about not going to develop your argument, that only feeds my wild guess, you haven't played this game, have you? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not everyone can have a valid opinion, because you can't form a valid opinion without knowing what you're talking about.
Sorry sir I have played it thank you played it quite a bit. Attacking my honesty is small. =/ Just because I didnt like the game doesnt mean I didnt play it. I just didnt like it like you did.Your just trying argue though thats ok
The difference is that I can prove I've played, I can post screens of my level 50 sorcerer like this one:
I can go into as much detail as I want when comparing it to other games or when stating this game's features, I can post subjective and objective stuff about this game, I've experienced the endgame content (there I am about to kill the Daumnir instance boss), I've done sieges, massive fights, basicaly everything you can do in this game.
Then again, what have you done, how can you prove it, and why should we believe that your opinion isn't formed after watching a pair of screenshots?
The UI reminds me of EQ2 where you'd have about 40 spells in front of you.......I like it better when they make you choose just a few spells like GW and EQ did.......
Very grindy harvesting How so? What would you consider a non grindy harvesting? Only 8 classes. Thats really low for an mmo it todays market. Healer, Tank, MDPS and RDPS, that's all you've got in current games. This game is not one for exploration like say Ryzom is or Vanguard or EQ1 is. Why?
The crafting is not on par with Ryzom or Vanguards or eq2. Why?
Thats my opinion. I am intitled to it. Sure, and I'm entitled to discredit it, feel free to prove me wrong.
These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
Very grindy harvesting How so? What would you consider a non grindy harvesting? Only 8 classes. Thats really low for an mmo it todays market. Healer, Tank, MDPS and RDPS, that's all you've got in current games. This game is not one for exploration like say Ryzom is or Vanguard or EQ1 is. Why?
The crafting is not on par with Ryzom or Vanguards or eq2. Why?
Thats my opinion. I am intitled to it. Sure, and I'm entitled to discredit it, feel free to prove me wrong.
These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
you cant discredit an opinion Everyone has one. I am not going to try and convince you to not like a game you obviously love. If you havent played Ryzom or Vanguard or EQ1 then I couldnt possibly make you understand what it means to have a world built for exploration as opposed to one built around level zones. You are obviously NOT a crafting mmoer if you would ask why lol
Yes but you can explain what brought you to the conclusions that you made.
What kind of crafting ISNT grindy? I really would like to know that one.
Very grindy harvesting How so? What would you consider a non grindy harvesting? Only 8 classes. Thats really low for an mmo it todays market. Healer, Tank, MDPS and RDPS, that's all you've got in current games. This game is not one for exploration like say Ryzom is or Vanguard or EQ1 is. Why?
The crafting is not on par with Ryzom or Vanguards or eq2. Why?
Thats my opinion. I am intitled to it. Sure, and I'm entitled to discredit it, feel free to prove me wrong.
These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
you cant discredit an opinion Everyone has one. I am not going to try and convince you to not like a game you obviously love. If you havent played Ryzom or Vanguard or EQ1 then I couldnt possibly make you understand what it means to have a world built for exploration as opposed to one built around level zones. You are obviously NOT a crafting mmoer if you would ask why lol
Yes but you can explain what brought you to the conclusions that you made.
What kind of crafting ISNT grindy? I really would like to know that one.
Him being so adamant about not giving a explanation as to why discredits himself more than we can do.
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Aion is supposed to take all the popular elements of major mmos and roll it into one, I take it you're more into the sandbox type of mmos?
This is also why it 'offers nothing new'. It's not a game for people expecting the next revolution, it's a game for those expecting a combination of all the great things about existing mmos.
Also reinventing the wheel is almost impossible short of making it square and making it stop working all together.
We should ask the admins on this site to update their website then.
I mean if the company making it says they're releasing it in the Fall then I'd say thats good enough information to change the release date on this site.
Quoted from the above link
" 1) When will Aion be released in North America/Europe?
We expect to ship Aion in NCsoft West territories in the fall of 2009. "
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Of course they are subjective thats what an opinion is O_o seems simple. You have an opnion this one is mine anywho....I think D&Donline has better animations I think Tabula rasa had better animations I think AoC has better animations...I am not going "develop my argument" because I am not arguing nor am I trying to sway someone from forming their own opinion I am just sharing mine.
Haven't played D&Donline, can't say.
TR animation is about shooting a gun, the characters shape never changes, it's either neutral or offensive, gear is always fitting with the body, the complexity of TR animations are nowhere the level of Aion's from a technical point of view.
AoC had pretty good animations based on the use of a good skeleton system, but then again, the ammount of detail on those animations was pretty limited compared to Aion's, fatality, left swing or right swing, nothing else.
Now, about not going to develop your argument, that only feeds my wild guess, you haven't played this game, have you? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not everyone can have a valid opinion, because you can't form a valid opinion without knowing what you're talking about.
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Of course they are subjective thats what an opinion is O_o seems simple. You have an opnion this one is mine anywho....I think D&Donline has better animations I think Tabula rasa had better animations I think AoC has better animations...I am not going "develop my argument" because I am not arguing nor am I trying to sway someone from forming their own opinion I am just sharing mine.
Haven't played D&Donline, can't say.
TR animation is about shooting a gun, the characters shape never changes, it's either neutral or offensive, gear is always fitting with the body, the complexity of TR animations are nowhere the level of Aion's from a technical point of view.
AoC had pretty good animations based on the use of a good skeleton system, but then again, the ammount of detail on those animations was pretty limited compared to Aion's, fatality, left swing or right swing, nothing else.
Now, about not going to develop your argument, that only feeds my wild guess, you haven't played this game, have you? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not everyone can have a valid opinion, because you can't form a valid opinion without knowing what you're talking about.
Sorry sir I have played it thank you played it quite a bit. Attacking my honesty is small. =/ Just because I didnt like the game doesnt mean I didnt play it. I just didnt like it like you did.Your just trying argue though thats ok
The difference is that I can prove I've played, I can post screens of my level 50 sorcerer like this one:
I can go into as much detail as I want when comparing it to other games or when stating this game's features, I can post subjective and objective stuff about this game, I've experienced the endgame content (there I am about to kill the Daumnir instance boss), I've done sieges, massive fights, basicaly everything you can do in this game.
Then again, what have you done, how can you prove it, and why should we believe that your opinion isn't formed after watching a pair of screenshots?
The UI reminds me of EQ2 where you'd have about 40 spells in front of you.......I like it better when they make you choose just a few spells like GW and EQ did.......
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These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
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These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
you cant discredit an opinion
Everyone has one. I am not going to try and convince you to not like a game you obviously love. If you havent played Ryzom or Vanguard or EQ1 then I couldnt possibly make you understand what it means to have a world built for exploration as opposed to one built around level zones. You are obviously NOT a crafting mmoer if you would ask why lol
Yes but you can explain what brought you to the conclusions that you made.
What kind of crafting ISNT grindy? I really would like to know that one.
These questions arise when reading your posts, why, why and more why.
you cant discredit an opinion
Everyone has one. I am not going to try and convince you to not like a game you obviously love. If you havent played Ryzom or Vanguard or EQ1 then I couldnt possibly make you understand what it means to have a world built for exploration as opposed to one built around level zones. You are obviously NOT a crafting mmoer if you would ask why lol
Yes but you can explain what brought you to the conclusions that you made.
What kind of crafting ISNT grindy? I really would like to know that one.
Him being so adamant about not giving a explanation as to why discredits himself more than we can do.
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I got a feeling you guys are just getting trolled. When everyone's playing Aion, this guy is just gonna jump on the boat like everyone did on WoW.
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So what are the things that you do like?
Aion is supposed to take all the popular elements of major mmos and roll it into one, I take it you're more into the sandbox type of mmos?
This is also why it 'offers nothing new'. It's not a game for people expecting the next revolution, it's a game for those expecting a combination of all the great things about existing mmos.
Also reinventing the wheel is almost impossible short of making it square and making it stop working all together.
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Interested to try this game for sure. I could click the official site, but I am lazy this AM, so I'll just ask, is there a NA release date?
No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
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No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
Fall 2009 Q3 is what they are aiming for.
No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
Fall 2009 Q3 is what they are aiming for.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/Aion.html <-- MMOrpg.com's website says Q4
Where did you hear Q3?
No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
Fall 2009 Q3 is what they are aiming for.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/Aion.html <-- MMOrpg.com's website says Q4
Where did you hear Q3?
Nope, he is right. Dug up the letter to the fans and it does state fall of 09.
www.aiononline.com/us/news/general_news/a_letter_to_our_fans.html
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No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
Fall 2009 Q3 is what they are aiming for.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/Aion.html <-- MMOrpg.com's website says Q4
Where did you hear Q3?
Nope, he is right. Dug up the letter to the fans and it does state fall of 09.
www.aiononline.com/us/news/general_news/a_letter_to_our_fans.html
Fall is Q4
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
No "set in stone" release date has been set but they are shooting for the 4th quarter.
Fall 2009 Q3 is what they are aiming for.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/Aion.html <-- MMOrpg.com's website says Q4
Where did you hear Q3?
Nope, he is right. Dug up the letter to the fans and it does state fall of 09.
www.aiononline.com/us/news/general_news/a_letter_to_our_fans.html
We should ask the admins on this site to update their website then.
I mean if the company making it says they're releasing it in the Fall then I'd say thats good enough information to change the release date on this site.
Quoted from the above link
" 1) When will Aion be released in North America/Europe?
We expect to ship Aion in NCsoft West territories in the fall of 2009. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_quarter_of_a_calendar_year#subdivisions
Considering a Quarter is a division of 4 things into equal parts.
Unless they start Q1 inthe Winter... then yes Q4 WOULD be fall, Though I'm going to assume that they mean Q1 being the begining of the year.
I may of course be mistaken, but I believe that Q3 is Fall and Q4 is Winter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_quarter_of_a_calendar_year#subdivisions
Considering a Quarter is a division of 4 things into equal parts.
Unless they start Q1 inthe Winter... then yes Q4 WOULD be fall, Though I'm going to assume that they mean Q1 being the begining of the year.
I may of course be mistaken, but I believe that Q3 is Fall and Q4 is Winter.
Also depends on whether they are referring to a fiscal year or calendar year.
Calendar year:
Q1 = Jan - March
Q2 = April - June
Q3 = July - Sept
Q4 = Oct - Dec
Fiscal Year:
Q1 = April - June
Q2 = July - September
Q3 = October - December
Q4 = January - March
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_quarter_of_a_calendar_year#subdivisions
Considering a Quarter is a division of 4 things into equal parts.
Unless they start Q1 inthe Winter... then yes Q4 WOULD be fall, Though I'm going to assume that they mean Q1 being the begining of the year.
I may of course be mistaken, but I believe that Q3 is Fall and Q4 is Winter.
Fall starts Sept 21st.
the last 3 months of the year is October, November and December.
Unless they are talking end of the fiscal year but for some companies that can be in June.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo