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  • BigHatLoganBigHatLogan Bellingham, WAMember Posts: 688

    I'd rather play a game filled with douchebags than a game filled with nerds.

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    I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!

  • loxleynewloxleynew westminster, COMember Posts: 264
    Originally posted by sullivanj69


    I'd rather play a game filled with douchebags than a game filled with nerds.

     

    Too bad the douchebags are nerds.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAMember UncommonPosts: 5,479
    Originally posted by Valetman

    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by Valetman


     
    You are correct, its how this particular game was designed to be played. Its also why it is so flawed at its base level design there are two options, it will evolve through a trammell like patch, or it will die.
      



     

    Or it will simply continue being what it is, a niche game played by a few people who understand if you swim with sharks you're going to get bit. I know people who think every time they get killed is a greivous personal insult and the end of the world don't get it.  That's to be expected. It's neither griefer nor hardcore. It's just a game. People don't cry when they get  smashed playing monopoly do they? "Mommy! He's griefing me with park place and a hotel!" It's pretty obvious they didn't make this game to cater to the masses and rake in the gigabucks. Someone already made that game and did a damn good job of it.

     

     

    Ypu missed my main point.

     

    It will not continue as it is, because the pkers need someone to PK.  This is why Trammell happened.

    In Darkfall, th eproblem isnt the same as the miner PKing epidemic that led to Trammell , its worse. The alignment system actively encourages, and rewards , PKing same race / alignment players. 

    The lions need prey. But the game system is so skewed in favour of ganking, as I described in my previous post, no one, bar the gankers , will stay.

    A server full of lions will not be fun, they dont want to fight their own kind, they want easy prey, run out of prey,and then the lions will leave.



     

    It's a nice simple theory but it's nonsense. If that were true PvP games, especially first person shooters, would have died out long ago .Gankers are just as happy to gank each other as anyone else. In fact if the game becomes too easy they grow bored and leave.  Even Shadowbane for all it's flaws is still refusing to die. Trammel happened because the developers weren't willing to accept the player attrition. Aventurine seems to be relying on it.

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  • beaverzbeaverz SuresnesMember Posts: 660

    Anyone care to explain to this guy why other than mmos having a monthly fee, getting ganked in mmo and fps isnt the same thing.

    I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.

  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAMember UncommonPosts: 5,479
    Originally posted by beaverz


    Anyone care to explain to this guy why other than mmos having a monthly fee, getting ganked in mmo and fps isnt the same thing.



     

    Anyone care to explain to this guy thet despite people saying thet innumerble times for dozens of years the difference is only aparrent in games with significant death penalties? Something Darkfall does not have despite being full loot. That even in games with significant death penalties gankers are the least affected by them.

     

    If you're building a game for a mass audience obviously you don't build it like Darkfall. Trying to apply the theories used to build mass audience games to niche games is an epic fail. It all comes down to one thing. Do you care if your character is killed more than you care about killing other characters? If so don't play open PvP games.

    "We have met the enemy and he is us." ~Pogo Possum. 

  • daarcodaarco GavleMember UncommonPosts: 4,263

    And dont forget, its the same for everyone.

    Cant really help to wonder when people put some weird equation to explin DF gameplay. Its a PvP MMO. Everything that is considered "bad" in other MMOs, is what holds DF togeather. Competition, fear, lost items, perma death to mounts and so on.

    Why is the first instint always "that wouldent work in WoW"?? Because that is what we can see in almost every post. There is no secret DF is a PvP MMO. And still many tryes to "reviel the truth".  We know already. You dont like PvP...DF is nothing for you, ok? Simple. Very simple.

    Just as PvE MMOs are nothing for me. I dont go to another PvE forum and try and explain how wrong PvE is.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Vancouver, BCMember Posts: 1,785
    Originally posted by daarco


    And dont forget, its the same for everyone.
    Cant really help to wonder when people put some weird equation to explin DF gameplay. Its a PvP MMO. Everything that is considered "bad" in other MMOs, is what holds DF togeather. Competition, fear, lost items, perma death to mounts and so on.
    Why is the first instint always "that wouldent work in WoW"?? Because that is what we can see in almost every post. There is no secret DF is a PvP MMO. And still many tryes to "reviel the truth".  We know already. You dont like PvP...DF is nothing for you, ok? Simple. Very simple.
    Just as PvE MMOs are nothing for me. I dont go to another PvE forum and try and explain how wrong PvE is.

     

    I agree with your point. DF lasted longer than Fury did I believe, so they can take solace in that.

  • DrAllcomeDrAllcome LA, CAMember Posts: 79

    for me the threat of being able to be attacked by anyone at any time is part of the fun. I am not a huge pvper but there is a certain thrill that you could lose all of your hard earned items at  any time. I would assume people buying this game understand that and would be like minded.

    So far on the Orc side I have only been "ganked" one time by a human riding a white tiger or somthing the thing is she killed me when I was alone however when she was lurking around the new area a small band of people formed to chase her away(all newvies)

    I never really felt like the PK was overpowered, yes she did have a clear advantage but it never seemed impossible to kill her on the other hand in a lvl based game someone 20 lvls higher than you are is god.

    I have only had the game for 3 days now so we will see what happens.

     

  • ExmatrixExmatrix IsraelMember UncommonPosts: 36

    I just got into this game 2 nights ago. Yesterday i saw in the chat something that explains excectly what this game is all about, & I quote:

    "OMG! WTF!!! F***ING GANKER KILLED ME & i WAS MINING! LOST 2K IRON!! WTF I'M GOING BACK TO WOW!!"

    When i finally managed to pick my self up back from the floor i saw lots of "supportive" responses in the chat encoreging him to actually go back to WoW...

     

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