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Entropia economy go busted ?

liumlium Member Posts: 138

All this years i have been looking at ppl promoting Entropia, telling how good it is how you can make money if you are smart.



So strange they don’t talk about recent economy falling apart why?



So the goal is to say nice thinks but when times are hard no new feed to tell about them.

So I bring you the Entropia economy go busted.



Weapons and items (the one that are rare) can’t find buyer, price dropped over the period of two months 80% on some items (like the UL 6 gun that is on auction at 8000 peds while the last one sold for 40000 peds) I’m shore the owner want way out off the so promised great land but even at under market no one want to buy anything.

Even resellers that are known for being greedy and buying everything low refuse to buy anything.

Example is the ML 35 that was 20000 peds last year found buyer at 12000 after 3 weeks on auction.

Before you think about entropia as your best investment think about this are you ready to lose 1000 dollars over night in virtual game.



They want to believe that everything is good while the boat sinks day after day and more and more ppl realized that it was all but smoke in the eye.

 

PS. sry for the first post did not come out as i did not see the windows it was all gray look like it wont work in IE8 works in fire fox.

 

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  • AlphaGeekAlphaGeek Member Posts: 190

    Since the economy in EU is tied to RL funds...discretionary spending at that, it should be no suprise that the economy on Calypso would follow the RL one to some degree.

    That being said, the price on many items was already so hyperinflated that it's no suprise to see a market correction in process.

    AG

    Alpha AG Geek
    Founder- Manticore Society

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

     

    Im conviced that the dude who payd 40000 peds ( 4000 us dollars )  for 'Isis HL6 Unlimited' is more that happy to see it selling at 8000 peds ( 800 us dollars ) what great way to make money... sry no what great way to lose money.

    Hard 3200 us dollars earned at work wanished in Entropia cheers.

    I think is good that we can bring the truth about Entropia to warn inocent players that may be duped by all the MA advertisement pure smoke in the eye, bolok.

  • AlphaGeekAlphaGeek Member Posts: 190

    *shrug*  I'm not saying what's happening to the in-game economy is good or bad. I'm just saying that  prices in game were severely overinflated, and that anyone making an "investment" in the game in order to make money was (and is) taking a huge risk.

    Bottom line, download, play, spend 10-20 bucks per month and you'll be just as entertained as any of the other pay-for-play games out there.

    Alpha AG Geek
    Founder- Manticore Society

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    Only cow that huge statement... do you play any MMO's obviusly i doubt, let me take one example Entropia cant offer 10% quality as let say EvE Online. Not to mention WoW, Neocron2 or so many games that you can find on mmorpg.com !

    Ther is no content in Entropia 0 content that why it will never atract gamers only gamblers that think they can get rich over night.

    No quest, no dungeons and if you want to grind skills guss what give us the money and tons off it. How you can say that it will be as funn as any MMO when you can shoot 10 dollars in less that day whith Opalo ( starter rifle ) while in normal MMO's you will be able to play the next 29 days whith no extra charge?

    No dont give it try you are beter of never downloading Entropia becose it will suck you dollars up !

    Chose from any MMO on this web site so you enjoy youre month of gaming and not casino play, micro payment LMAO.

    Read on the forums the polls how much ppl deposit to play average is more like 1000 dollars month.

    Stop the lie like i say we will make ppl aware of what is realy behind Entropia, greedy money compagny.

  • SpiiderSpiider Member RarePosts: 875

    Economy in EU has almost nothing to do with RL economy, don't kid yourself. Market crash is happening because of MAs stupid plan to plunder from most and only give to few. Since months now there is an increased number of super uber hofs and aths but average loot for most players is way down. Mathematicaly same amount of peds is dished out to player base but it's not evenly spread which increases the gap between those who can afford things and those who can't. Someone who hits 50,000 PED ath will buy one UL gun and that is it. Instead of 5 people getting 10,000 each which would create 5 potential customers for UL guns.

    On top of that the faster people loose their PEDs the less they put in. It's psychology, very simple, no one want's to put money into a machine that does not pay you back ever. I'm also speaking for myself here, 2 years of hunting and only one hof. And I aint no snable hunter. With this loot split I'm not putting a single dime in this game ever again.

    Gun prices are down.

    Hunting loot has almost no markup.

    Ore prices are waaaaaay down, since crafters are mostly broke (only few very dedicated people craft on high level now).

    Skill prices are reaching their all time lows since everyone and their aunt is trying to finnance their play from selling skills.

    Gun prices are down... the circle goes on.

     

    I don't need a crystal ball to be able to say that this game is toast with their current loot distribution pattern.

    No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181

    I could not agree more, though I bet within 5 days, an employee of MA (or extremely devoted fan that should) will post "its not true!"

    Sick of playing Entropia Universe? Want to quit, but don't want your hard earned money to vanish? Give your items to ME :-)

  • ElendilasXElendilasX Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by lium


    Only cow that huge statement... do you play any MMO's obviusly i doubt, let me take one example Entropia cant offer 10% quality as let say EvE Online. Not to mention WoW, Neocron2 or so many games that you can find on mmorpg.com !
    Ther is no content in Entropia 0 content that why it will never atract gamers only gamblers that think they can get rich over night.
    No quest, no dungeons and if you want to grind skills guss what give us the money and tons off it. How you can say that it will be as funn as any MMO when you can shoot 10 dollars in less that day whith Opalo ( starter rifle ) while in normal MMO's you will be able to play the next 29 days whith no extra charge?
    No dont give it try you are beter of never downloading Entropia becose it will suck you dollars up !
    Chose from any MMO on this web site so you enjoy youre month of gaming and not casino play, micro payment LMAO.
    Read on the forums the polls how much ppl deposit to play average is more like 1000 dollars month.
    Stop the lie like i say we will make ppl aware of what is realy behind Entropia, greedy money compagny.

     

    Lol. I like how you compare it to other games. I as easy can say it is way better then any other game, especially then WoW-shit and eve.... What have WoW? Same dungeons you repeat 100x times to get some gear, then repeat for another 200x to get another gear and repeat everything again with new patch... awesome brain burner. Eve online - you go mine for months, you go destroy same ships for another month, you go mine for another month etc....

    Entropia is fun to hunt with a team, do those alien ship raids, supreme mobs. Mining is way far better then any other game, as it is not same "saw shit on ground, picked for 5sec and here i have it" routine. Depths, diff locations and stuff like that makes it interesting.

    And about money aspect yea if you are idiot or very unlucky you can spend 1000/month. But you can play wise and spend few $ per month. You can resell, it is always profitable if you know prices. Crafting requires extreme money but in the end in can make nice profit. Hunting usually will be wasteful, and mining if you mining wise can lose you few bucks or win per day...

    And overall all game is same: you REPEAT same stuff over and over again. Like fucking real life.

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    Ok WoW yeah is kind grinding, but you cant say that from EvE. If you find that EvE is to repeat then you did not play EvE you played something else…

    I get in 150 men fleet fights at least twice week ( i entropia you will never get 150 ppl in same spot in same time LOL if 150 ppl play the game at same time ).

    Whith WH is so FRKING exiseded every time you find one you got no clue what is going to be, scanning plexis and geting 2b worth of faction mods ( i dont pay to play EvE alredy 24 months buying GTC whith isk ).

    EvE is so much of game LMAO minning you need to go do those IRL stuff dude… if you cant play EvE dont, but dont say is all repeat TBH is even more easy to make real money in EvE ( for ppl that want to sell ISK, the only part is that is not legal ) but there is many making 100 of dollars by doing that.

    OFC is easy to make money in Entropia that exactely why on entropiaforum every one cry about returns, like you say you need to be smart well i guss then every one that cry is stupid.

     

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    Last think is to prove you just write post whith actualy no clue of what are you talking about ( i loged in what the hell you talking about trading ).

    Weapons prices droped by 50 up to 70% ( bet it will drop even more as every one quiting and want out of the sinking boat ) and i see no one want to buy them !!!

    Oh look at sily ores prices LoL at gold.

    I bet you trade sweat.

     

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    This post is from Entropia vet ( started in 2004 ) read that post and you will see what is going on in Entropia.

    Read all the posts and you will see how deep the resesion is in Entropia !

    Now if you want to deposit and lose well you are free to do so just remember dont cry once youre bank account get drie out.

    http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/general-discussion/147668-save-mindark-ass-save-ours-ass-advert-other-game-site-ad-sence.html

     

  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181

    The economy will improve though, it isn't all doom and gloom. Just look at the real world economy, the signs are beginning to show that its improving, or at least my local economy.

    Don't feed the forum trolls, I've already learnt my lesson ;)

    Sick of playing Entropia Universe? Want to quit, but don't want your hard earned money to vanish? Give your items to ME :-)

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    Ther is nothing troll in this everithing i say is pure TRUTH, and every word is backed up whith FACTS from Entropia !

    Tell me one line that is false ?

    I dont try to troll i belive is mine duty to warn ppl as i seen to many ads posts on MMO web site about Entropia ( Bank lisance, CE2 blablabla and more blablabla ).

    So i feel is normal that i post what all those fans dont want the ppl to know.

    Remember this forum is not EF where you get instant banned if you post negative reviews about EU, and im proud and happy to be apart of fee to speek comunity.

    PS. That guy say EvE is boring comon i can understand that you like or dont like it, but you cant say that EvE is whith no content.

     

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    If i only wanted to bring down Entropia i will not write this post :

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/31/view/forums/post/2748137#2748137

    Like i say i write what i think is honest and i stick to that atitude !

     

  • WrenderWrender Member Posts: 1,386

    EU is crap! Period!

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,934

    They should never have tied the PED to the US Dollar. I can remember being lambasted on an Entropia Universe forum for saying that once.

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    FACT

    Originally posted by Wrender


    EU is crap! Period!



     

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269
    Originally posted by lium


     
    i belive is mine duty to warn ppl as i seen ... 



     

    you're my hero, don't know about anyone else but I feel safer already.

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  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Is it my imagination or is no one bidding on anything at all? Everytime I log in and look at expiring auctions there is not 1 bid on anything! Maybe Mindark will move to a monthly subscription model if people don't want to deposit any more. I know the hardcore people will still drop tons of money in daily but I don't know how they are going to sell stuff when people won't buy anything in the malls or auctions and $$$ is going to the TT instead of between players.

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181

    You might be right, Last couple of times I've had mid level things on auction, they've never sold, even under %, which I found very strange - I thought It was the wrong day or something, or people were waiting for cryengine2.

     

    Sick of playing Entropia Universe? Want to quit, but don't want your hard earned money to vanish? Give your items to ME :-)

  • AlphaGeekAlphaGeek Member Posts: 190

    Auctions often have better luck if you time them so that they end on peak hours during the weekends. More eyes watching the screen that way. :)

     

    Alpha AG Geek
    Founder- Manticore Society

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Seems like the only thing people are bidding on is the empty skill implant. :P

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

     Wonder what hapens when to many ppl selling and no one buying, lol at the EON SB 50k peds.

    Actualy i enjoyed looking at the crash mayby now ppl will wake up and realyse that the items are worth 0 if no one want to buy them.

     

    Originally posted by Briansho


    Seems like the only thing people are bidding on is the empty skill implant. :P



     

  • OpticronOpticron Entropia Universe CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 74
    Originally posted by lium


    All this years i have been looking at ppl promoting Entropia, telling how good it is how you can make money if you are smart.
    ...


    So I bring you the Entropia economy go busted.
    ...
    They want to believe that everything is good while the boat sinks day after day and more and more ppl realized that it was all but smoke in the eye. 

     

    Some other facts:

    • 2000: PE concept announced, lots of people yelling it would never work, it works.
    • 2002: Open beta starts, lots of people yelling nobody would be interested, people are interested.
    • 2003: PE goes gold, many people yelling it will never last long, they're still here
    • 2004: Public auction of virtual island, lots of people yelling PE economy is going down, island sold for $26500 US.
    • 2005: Public auction of virtual space-station, alot of people yelling PE economy is alltime low, Station sold for $100.000 US.
    • 2006,2007,2008: Prices rise astronomically to thousands of dollars, many claim PE is doomed, it's still here.
    • 2009: 800.000 users later, Lium warns us all not to play
    • 2009 - ??: There will always be nay-sayers and doom prophets, just try to enjoy your experience and spend as much as you're willing to risk loosing.
  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    LMAO you made one post we know who are you.

    800000 accounts 500 players.

     

    Originally posted by Opticron

    Originally posted by lium


    All this years i have been looking at ppl promoting Entropia, telling how good it is how you can make money if you are smart.
    ...


    So I bring you the Entropia economy go busted.
    ...
    They want to believe that everything is good while the boat sinks day after day and more and more ppl realized that it was all but smoke in the eye. 

     

    Some other facts:

    • 2000: PE concept announced, lots of people yelling it would never work, it works.
    • 2002: Open beta starts, lots of people yelling nobody would be interested, people are interested.
    • 2003: PE goes gold, many people yelling it will never last long, they're still here
    • 2004: Public auction of virtual island, lots of people yelling PE economy is going down, island sold for $26500 US.
    • 2005: Public auction of virtual space-station, alot of people yelling PE economy is alltime low, Station sold for $100.000 US.
    • 2006,2007,2008: Prices rise astronomically to thousands of dollars, many claim PE is doomed, it's still here.
    • 2009: 800.000 users later, Lium warns us all not to play
    • 2009 - ??: There will always be nay-sayers and doom prophets, just try to enjoy your experience and spend as much as you're willing to risk loosing.



     

  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    Oh i give you one fact you seem to forget (because is obvious you work for MA).

    MinDark was bankrupt at gold that how the game was popular!

    800000 account = 1000 players!

    Second life posted in real time monitoring the users on line why Entropia don’t do the same with 800000 accounts? Because if ppl seen the real player numbers they will not invest anything in the game.

    Yes there is crazy ppl that paid stupid money for items (i can’t cry i own great car IRL because i sold out) but they are crazy.

    You forget to tell about Banks that sold for 400k (guess why because Anshe tried to sell her and get out of the game once she finds almost no one played).

     

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