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what makes Wotlk so easy?

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  • SikhanderSikhander Member UncommonPosts: 220

    WotlK is easy. Like I said in another thread I leveled two characters up to 80, got basically all heroic drops I was interested in, badge items and cleared Naxx in a group of 9 where the MT had a pally plate chest - all of this between release and Christmas.

    Now - this does not mean WotLK is bad. It means that Blizzard has started to care more for the casual player and the hard-core single/ co-op player. That is all.

    However, to state that WotLK has anything 'hard' in it is simply wrong. We have to see what Ulduar brings but it seems Blizzard has moved the base-line for the game alot which is alienating alot of the more competetive players (very small consumer base). Whether loosing flag carriers will hurt the game or not I do not know.

  • SikhanderSikhander Member UncommonPosts: 220

    The point that I was trying to make is the comparison between a marathon and walking in sports. You could fight Kel'Thuzad naked in vanilla WoW also to push the envelope. WotLK has done two things: Lowered the base line for all bosses (making them very easy) and then created achievements where you gimp yourself in various ways to do the same fight (walking instead of running). For some of these modes the loot table changes which is of course nice.

    The problem is still that saying 'I have killed Kel'Thuzad' which had a real value in vanilla WoW now means nothing. And the fact that you can gimp your set-up in various ways to make it harder is really an artificial way to enable harder modes in the game - you could do that before as well (only auto-attack/no gear slotted). All my old raiding friends feel the same - no statistical sample of significance but i think it means something. When we entered Kel'Thuzad's chamber early autumn 2006 we knew we belonged to a selected few that had seen those textures live on our screens. It meant something. Now it means hardly anything.

    And do not get me wrong here - I think that Blizzard is doing a thought through business decision. But it is a double edged sword since stars are important for a phenomena even if you play in a lower league. Personally I do not play games as much as I did due to wife and kids, but when I play a game I love to browse the forums where those that invest more talks about the accomplishments - it inspires me (and makes me wish that I have more time :p).

  • MalvolentiaMalvolentia Member Posts: 253

    More spoonfeeding means more players.  That's the bottom line to why WoW keeps getting easy.  Sadly it's become so easy any accomplishment in the game is trivial.

    If you put aside the fact that Blizzard sold powerleveling and dk starts at 55, you'll still find all the instances got retardedly easy.  Compared to classic WoW when some forms of CC and group coordination were actually required to complete an instance.  Now it's just a dps bombing with a couple heals.  Nobody even bothers with CC cause it's just not necessary.  Lowest common denominator is victorious once again in the dumbing down of the game.

    The questing content doesn't seem much different.  It's just like they were going to release Wrath and then decided to go back and nerf everything possible so the mouthbreathers could keep up. 

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  • templargatemplarga Member UncommonPosts: 1,947
    Originally posted by Malvolentia


    More spoonfeeding means more players.  That's the bottom line to why WoW keeps getting easy.  Sadly it's become so easy any accomplishment in the game is trivial.
    If you put aside the fact that Blizzard sold powerleveling and dk starts at 55, you'll still find all the instances got retardedly easy.  Compared to classic WoW when some forms of CC and group coordination were actually required to complete an instance.  Now it's just a dps bombing with a couple heals.  Nobody even bothers with CC cause it's just not necessary.  Lowest common denominator is victorious once again in the dumbing down of the game.
    The questing content doesn't seem much different.  It's just like they were going to release Wrath and then decided to go back and nerf everything possible so the mouthbreathers could keep up. 

    All achievements in all games are trivial because they all boil down to being a time-sink (i.e. - more reward for more time involved). WOW has found a way to reward players of all levels (except for the hardcore raider set but that isn't their market anymore) and so far, it seems to be working well. However, only time will tell.

    From what I have read, Ulduar will not be easy in the slightest and will pose quite a challenge for many raiders. Since so many of the bosses have various difficulty modes, I think it will be a long time before we see Ulduar cleared with all of the hardest difficulty levels done. Remember, now individual raid fights have difficulties along with the instance itself.

  • ToxxerToxxer Member Posts: 12

    the only limit is yourself, if you want it Super duper mega hardcore, than make it that way..

    take off all your gear, get a raid and let them be afk, then you solo it all by yourself.. hard enough for ya?

  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884

     That's the thing, they don't want it hard for themselves, they want hard to be the only choice, so only those with enough time to spend can feel acomplished. Rest of us with other priorities should be second class citizens in "their" world.

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  • MwajiMwaji Member Posts: 229

    This is a 2500 Paladin team.

    Now............... its clear to me that this guys using wasd movement and clicking everything with the mouse. It's also clear to alot of the comments on the video. The level of hesitation in his play I would I think lead to certain death, but in this case it leads to a 2500 arena rating................................    .

     

    That just makes me sad.

     

    Oh and some bosses in Ulduar are already down in PTR, if this is any indication of the entire instance...

    yep you can 10 man it.

    EASY

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