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So what do you think of the Achievement system?
Pappy13
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Do you pay attention to them? Are you actively trying to complete any of them? If so, which ones?
I'm mildly entertained when I see them pop up, but I can't say that I've put any effort into achieving any of them. What's the general consensus out there? Entertainment value only or given you a new carrot to chase?
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More a carrot I think and kind of a cheap way to add more content. It will give reasons for people to do old content as well which is a positive.
At first it seemed cool but once I realized its just for bragging rights and maybe a new skin for a pet or mount I lost interest myself. My friend focuses on them alot though but he thinks you will get gear from the points some day which he may.
A mini game would be the best way to describe it IMO and while its still new I am sure lots of people will get more enjoyment out of it then I did.
I play just to socialize with some friends I am not a min/maxer type so that may be why it lost its appeal so fast with me.
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Cute, but meaningless.
The achievements did not bring any new content to WoW, they're just a funny way to tell you : hey ! you didn't explore that content yet ! I think they're fun and I'm actively looking to complete them, which is a tremendous task. But I like when my guildmates gg me ten times per playing session
Pretty much the same feelings as the others. WOW did fine without them but they are fun. I try to complete them. Not everything in an mmo has to yield some sort of a reward item.
I think it's awesome. It's a great checklist to see what you've actually done in the game. I'm personally aiming at completing every single one. Also, the points you receive will no doubt be used to purchase items, titles etc. Plus like somebody said before it makes people come back to explore old content which is always a plus.
Awesome system and > Tome of Knowledge by a mile due to it's easier navigation.
Two thumbs up!
I wouldnt say its better than the TOK in WAR as it does not give a story line in WOW like it does in WAR. I wish they would have stole it better from Lotro as by doing the deeds or achievments there give you a buff to stats and or abilitys.
Picture if the inscription crafting and the achievment system had a baby you would have what Lotro does. I really like the fact it promoted people to do old content when it first came out but I feel they could have done more with it but I am sure they will in the future.
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Which I believe - not many people will be happy.
To some extent, attaching bonuses to achievement (or when compared to lotro) will be no different than:
* Paladin's quest to get the first level of Resurrection spell
* Paladin's quest to get Verrigan's Fist (or the Horde equal)
* Priest's quest to get Benediction/Anathema
* Druid's quest to get Water Form
* Repeatable to get the Frost Sabre
* Minor bonuses on professions (ie: health bonus for Mining, free HoT spell for Herbalism, +crit for Skinning)
* etc.
I see achievement as Blizzard's way to say to the player: "alright, so you've (or you think you have) done all that jazz - but wait ! there are still many other fun ways to spend your time in the game. Thus, have you checked......"
Which I believe - not many people will be happy.
To some extent, attaching bonuses to achievement (or when compared to lotro) will be no different than:
* Paladin's quest to get the first level of Resurrection spell
* Paladin's quest to get Verrigan's Fist (or the Horde equal)
* Priest's quest to get Benediction/Anathema
* Druid's quest to get Water Form
* Repeatable to get the Frost Sabre
* Minor bonuses on professions (ie: health bonus for Mining, free HoT spell for Herbalism, +crit for Skinning)
* etc.
I see achievement as Blizzard's way to say to the player: "alright, so you've (or you think you have) done all that jazz - but wait ! there are still many other fun ways to spend your time in the game. Thus, have you checked......"
Guess you are right in its current form the achievment system is not very meaningful then and the way you make it sound if the do improve on it then it will become mandatory. Maybe then can atleast add some story to them like they did in WAR for the TOK.
So I guess its just a cool way to annoy guild members through guild chat since the "carrot" is kinda small.
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I love them and hate them at the same time, well just some.
It can be annoying or embarrassing when you achieve something like bandaging and you are level 80.
The world first achievements promote poor game play IMHO. It rewards people for blazing through content just to be fast. It is almost counter productive to a game like WoW, but that is just my opinion.
Other than that they are a ton of fun. Some are just to funny and some are really well thought out. Most of them do not hurt game play and they even promote grouping so they are overall a win win. It is also nice that many of them are not combat related.
Right now I am just completing whatever I happen to finish as I run through the world. Eventually I will read the list of goals and see which ones will be fun to try.
This might sound odd... but...
I see the achievements as being sorta like upgrading your facillities in Harvest Moon. Can you be successful and go on with the game without it? Yes, of course. But it can be fun to have ALL of the things maxed out and taken care of...
I personally hope they don't do something special with the achievements such as buffs or bonuses. It'll just drive me crazy because then I'll actually attempt to get as many as I can and just having the text THERE make me do that. xD
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I also don't want the points count for anything other than bragging rights. I noticed that it now shows you the "firsts" on the Armory and it also shows you all your achievements in the armory. That's pretty cool. More along those lines would be good. Perhaps a ranking of the top point getters or something?
I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
Yeah, I found it odd that they know how many quests I have completed, but couldn't get more info about which dungeons have been completed from that. Don't a lot of dungeons have a final quest that you can only complete if you have completed the dungeon? If I've completed the quest, doesn't that signify I've completed the dungeon?
I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
Yeah, I found it odd that they know how many quests I have completed, but couldn't get more info about which dungeons have been completed from that. Don't a lot of dungeons have a final quest that you can only complete if you have completed the dungeon? If I've completed the quest, doesn't that signify I've completed the dungeon?
Looks like most of the dungeon achievements are to kill the final boss in each dungeon.
They are ok. Every time I get a message about one it reminds me of Everquest II.
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I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
When I first heard that Blizz was implementing an achievement system, I was hoping it would be along these lines, (titles, tabards and cosmetic upgrades).
LOTR Online does a pretty good job with their lorebook and I thought for sure Blizzard would copy it. But alas, I think the only change we'll see is the inclusion of more acheivements for the sake of acheivements.
Personally, I don't care for acheievements but I don't hate them either. It amazes me how many people I've come across in WoW and Xbox Live that go crazy for them though. A lot of people enjoy them and this system is for them.
I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
Yeah, I found it odd that they know how many quests I have completed, but couldn't get more info about which dungeons have been completed from that. Don't a lot of dungeons have a final quest that you can only complete if you have completed the dungeon? If I've completed the quest, doesn't that signify I've completed the dungeon?
Looks like most of the dungeon achievements are to kill the final boss in each dungeon.
But isn't there usually a quest that goes along with that? I find it hard to believe that I haven't completed that quest for a lot of dungeons on a lot of my toons. Perhaps I haven't. Perhaps I have on one toon but not another so while I know I have finished the dungeon at some point in time, it may have only been on 1 toon. I have 7 lvl 70's, so I lose track. LOL
The devs talked about old world dungeons prior to lich king and were surprised just how many dungeons did not have a quest to kill the end bad guy.
I agree, as long as the achievements stay to titles and aesthetic rewards (such as mounts/tabards and titles, which it needs more of anyways) then it's perfect.
I do wish they would have recognized more of the old dungeon achievements though.
Yeah, I found it odd that they know how many quests I have completed, but couldn't get more info about which dungeons have been completed from that. Don't a lot of dungeons have a final quest that you can only complete if you have completed the dungeon? If I've completed the quest, doesn't that signify I've completed the dungeon?
Looks like most of the dungeon achievements are to kill the final boss in each dungeon.
But isn't there usually a quest that goes along with that? I find it hard to believe that I haven't completed that quest for a lot of dungeons on a lot of my toons. Perhaps I haven't. Perhaps I have on one toon but not another so while I know I have finished the dungeon at some point in time, it may have only been on 1 toon. I have 7 lvl 70's, so I lose track. LOL
They did this for a lot of the dungeons. Some dungeons really don't have an 'end quest'. They also did a database pass for item drops that only come from final bosses. The problem of course is that most people probably sold off those items after they outleveled them. I know for instance, I got credit for Onyxia on one of my characters just because I was still using her 'bag'.
As far as your original question. I'm not 'all consumed' with them, but there are a few that I am putting a lot of effort into on my main. The fact is before acheivements, i never thought of any of my characters as my 'main'. But now it's officially my Moonkin.
1. Exploration - I went back and explored some of that alliance zones just for those acheivements.
I also went out of my way to fish up Mr Pinchy and am working on the crocodile. I've also made some effort to get the 'nodes' for fishing.
2. Quests - Again, I went back to Azeroth and did a bunch of low level quests to get those two. I also went back to some outlands zones and spent a lot of time tracking down enough quests to complete. Some of them (Nagrand) are really tough.
3. Vanity Pets - currently at 41 on my main. Christmas will bring a bunch, and hopefully get me my free pet skunk at 50
4. Cooking and Fishing - The 'recipe' one in particuler for cooking I've spent some time on. I'm up to about 135 recipes. I glance at the AH frequently to make sure I've gotten them all that are sellable.
5. PVP ones - only some of them I bother with. I got the one for 50 kills inside Dreks home and a few other 'hard' ones like winning AB 2000-0 and capturing all 3 flags in WSG (kinda easy since my main is druid). I also got a cool one from AB where you come back from a 500 point deficit and win. I'm bummed about this catagory because my 'pvp' character is my mage and I'm doing the acheivements on my druid.