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Game Dying?
DarkRanger65
Member Posts: 83
Has the release of the expansions to EQ2, LOTRO and WOW put the final nail in the coffin for this game?
I played VG for a month and the lag and low FPS killed it for me.....not to mention some of the bugs
MMO Played-EQ, EQ2, WOW, DDO, GW, COH, Vanguard, WAR
MMOs Playing-LOTRO
Comments
No its not dying, had a lot of new players from Isle of Dawn, some returning from other over hyped games.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
I would say just the opposite. With the free trial and all the improvements it is actually starting to grow slowly.
In my opinion Vanguard now stands alone as the best sandbox game out. Not to say it's the most polished but it's far more polished now than it was 18 months ago.
Make a difference!
Copeland speaks the truth, it is more polished now - those that couldn't play it at launch may well be able to do so now with few problems. I'll say it again though, sub numbers are very small and it's got a lot to do if it's going to grow and be profitable in the future...
Today 17-18 p.m EU +2 gtm 46 ppl online
no itsnot death
pop will get better and better!!!
need lots of pvp polish
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I would say just the opposite. With the free trial and all the improvements it is actually starting to grow slowly.
In my opinion Vanguard now stands alone as the best sandbox game out. Not to say it's the most polished but it's far more polished now than it was 18 months ago.
Its Not a "SandBox" game. Its a Free Range game. There is a Diff ;p
And I just Resubbed. So thats one more ;p
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Also just resubbed! Vanguard is the only thing that gives me that EQ1 feeling of adventure.
A
n hour later 
it was only you 
and me online...
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
Vanguard is, was, and will be dead. Move on.
I would say just the opposite. With the free trial and all the improvements it is actually starting to grow slowly.
In my opinion Vanguard now stands alone as the best sandbox game out. Not to say it's the most polished but it's far more polished now than it was 18 months ago.
VG is not sandbox, but is the best theme park PvE game with the most freedom and sandbox feeling currently on the market. The only sandbox elements in VG are in crafting system.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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LordOfDarkDesire
Is a shame, I quit playing because leveling in deserted areas with seemingly no hope for any grouping killed it for me
Was a very good game though at the point I picked it up but I want to feel like it's an MMO otherwise the game doesn't work, like any MMO
quite the opposite. its now a stable and decent game. i see plenty of people at both max level and in the low to mid levels. it drops off sharply at around 40 but picks up again at 48 (when you can attend raids). overall its a good game. Crafting and Diplomacy seem to keep it afloat as they are so indepth and meaningfull...and such a sweet thing to do when you are bored of hitting things with a big stick.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
You clearly haven't played a dead MMO. I got Vanguard 2 weeks ago and I was expecting far, far less people than I saw.
Vanguard is not dead, far from it. Its the best PvE experience out there.
First off Vanguard was never alive, and I played for it for 9 months. The game is not sandbox. If you go anywhere off the beaten path then it is a wasteland of emptyness. Don't be fooled by people saying the population is increasing. I guess when you have 100 people online and it increase to 200 then you think "Holy Sh*t, the population has like doubled!"
I love this game, I try to leave it for new games, but come back all the time. But the population is rather small, actually I think it has decreased, my feel (which could be way wrong) is that it was a lot more players playing this time last year.
You just contradicted yourself? If the population isn't increasing how can the population increase from 100 to 200? Really now. Make up your mind as to exactly what your argument is.
Secondly, sandbox isn't determined by how many people are along the way. You can do what you want, when you want. The number of people doing it along with you is irrelevant. Do you know what sandbox means?
Excellent game now, all it really needs now is a decent expansion and maybe some end game content.
MAGA
I would echo the majority of responses and say that it is far from 'dead'. Sure it has one of the smaller populations out there, but it is growing every day as a result of the Isle of Dawn trial.
I think when people say sandbox, I think they are referring to all the factional based quest you can get. There are so many places where you just dungen crawl or adventure in far off places just to gain experince and faction to open up speical quest and storylines. You don't get that "theme park" feeling you get in so many of the newer MMO's today. Combine that with diplomacy, crafting and the player ran ecomony and its as close to a sandbox game you are going to get since SWG and EvE. The only difference is VG is level based. Maybe its not sandbox, but it is a freeform game where there are several hidden and very involved quest that are not marked with a "!" and very far off the public paths.
I think Dr. McCoy can say it better than I can:
You played for 9 months so I'm assuming your comment about the modern state of the game implies that you are within that 9 month period or are you talking about the game like it was a year ago?
You are Wrong on Sandbox. Sanbox Means that You the player can Have some to Great Effect on the world. In Vanguard You have NONE. Like you said tho, it is "Free Range" Or "Open Theam Park"
Course Most MMO's are Open theam. There never was Anyone on WOW telling me I had to do this Next set of quests.. Heck i spent most of my time Dooing other things from what most people do in that game. (And i lvled Ungodly slow because of it).
ATM I can not think of a True Sandbox game.Edit Eve is one Old Starwars was a Sandbox game and UO was the Biggest and Most True Sandbox game there was. Both have been Butched from that tho.
In Vanguard I have yet to Do a Dungen. Not TK Not anything. Wanted to. But just havent. Prohaps its time. Im lvl 22 atm With a Brother Hood thats all Unsubscribed.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
By simply googling "define:Sandbox game" the following is the result:
A sandbox game (or a video game with an optional sandbox mode) is a video game with an open-ended and non-linear style of gameplay...
My point.
You are Wrong on Sandbox. Sanbox Means that You the player can Have some to Great Effect on the world. In Vanguard You have NONE. Like you said tho, it is "Free Range" Or "Open Theam Park"
Course Most MMO's are Open theam. There never was Anyone on WOW telling me I had to do this Next set of quests.. Heck i spent most of my time Dooing other things from what most people do in that game. (And i lvled Ungodly slow because of it).
ATM I can not think of a True Sandbox game.Edit Eve is one Old Starwars was a Sandbox game and UO was the Biggest and Most True Sandbox game there was. Both have been Butched from that tho.
In Vanguard I have yet to Do a Dungen. Not TK Not anything. Wanted to. But just havent. Prohaps its time. Im lvl 22 atm With a Brother Hood thats all Unsubscribed.
Your definition is wrong. Sandbox has nothing to do with impact on world (That's actually usually the exact opposite). Sandbox is simply nonlinear world with no barriers, no invisible walls, no impassable terrain, no level requirements for anything.
I want to know honestly, at peak times, how many people are gona be online on the most populated server? I'm really interested in playing this game but when I first tried it was too buggy, then I tried again after the fixes and the world was too empty. What are the odds of me finding groups consistently at lower levels