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Entropia Universe is not a game of Gambling

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Renton81

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Renton81


    young minds of today :)
    If you actually contact this lottery inspection company, the information they will tell you will shut you up.  I was sceptical in the early days of when i played as well - saying that its a Casino.  Then some guy on forum made a thread which started similar to mine.  He gave the link to contact the inspection company, and coz i was curious i enquired.  I even phoned them (took a while to get to the right person) and they layed it out to me as it was.... and once you hear what they say in the exact words they did to me, thats when you realise to just shut up and eat ur words :) happend to me ;)

    Like I said, doesn't matter one bit by what the Swiss say. Matters what the rest of the world says. So, you call the rest of the worlds' different gambling commissions, then get back to us when they all say EU is not a gambling game. Because trust me, nothing the Swiss lottery says is going to make me "shut up and eat my words". Neither will you, youngster.

     

    Why do you keep mentioning Swiss? what has Switzerland got to do with anything? lol  Gambling is plain to see as day.  Clearly this inspection company concluded that EU isnt gambling.  If that much of an obvious decission was made about it,  its logical to think that everyone else would agree.  After all gambling is obvious to identify.  And i have nothing to prove anymore, i've given the name of a well established company who gave the conclusion that EU isnt gambling.  If you want to prove that it is, maybe you should call the hundreds of other countries :) They'll say the same thing.

    You're just basing the gambling theory off of your own frustrations that you've had with Entropia.  What instigated it?  Maybe you played the game with the very last cents that you had, i don't know.  But if you're just basing it on your own personal experiences thats kinda pathetic evidence against it really.

    Swiss and Swedish was a brain fart on my behalf.

    The rest stands. As far as personal experience goes, any other game personal experience is considered the prime proof. Yet for this game, in your mind, it's "pathetic".

    For the record, never lost any money to EU as I was never stupid enough to fall for it. But of course, you'll regale us all witt your stories of hundreds and thousands made, right?

    The game says it's free to play. Tell us all how to play the game for free. Oh, and sweating mobs for 2 months to buy a gun and 2 bullets don't count.

  • Renton81Renton81 Member Posts: 92
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Renton81

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by Renton81


    young minds of today :)
    If you actually contact this lottery inspection company, the information they will tell you will shut you up.  I was sceptical in the early days of when i played as well - saying that its a Casino.  Then some guy on forum made a thread which started similar to mine.  He gave the link to contact the inspection company, and coz i was curious i enquired.  I even phoned them (took a while to get to the right person) and they layed it out to me as it was.... and once you hear what they say in the exact words they did to me, thats when you realise to just shut up and eat ur words :) happend to me ;)

    Like I said, doesn't matter one bit by what the Swiss say. Matters what the rest of the world says. So, you call the rest of the worlds' different gambling commissions, then get back to us when they all say EU is not a gambling game. Because trust me, nothing the Swiss lottery says is going to make me "shut up and eat my words". Neither will you, youngster.

     

    Why do you keep mentioning Swiss? what has Switzerland got to do with anything? lol  Gambling is plain to see as day.  Clearly this inspection company concluded that EU isnt gambling.  If that much of an obvious decission was made about it,  its logical to think that everyone else would agree.  After all gambling is obvious to identify.  And i have nothing to prove anymore, i've given the name of a well established company who gave the conclusion that EU isnt gambling.  If you want to prove that it is, maybe you should call the hundreds of other countries :) They'll say the same thing.

    You're just basing the gambling theory off of your own frustrations that you've had with Entropia.  What instigated it?  Maybe you played the game with the very last cents that you had, i don't know.  But if you're just basing it on your own personal experiences thats kinda pathetic evidence against it really.

    Swiss and Swedish was a brain fart on my behalf.

    The rest stands. As far as personal experience goes, any other game personal experience is considered the prime proof. Yet for this game, in your mind, it's "pathetic".

    For the record, never lost any money to EU as I was never stupid enough to fall for it. But of course, you'll regale us all witt your stories of hundreds and thousands made, right?

    The game says it's free to play. Tell us all how to play the game for free. Oh, and sweating mobs for 2 months to buy a gun and 2 bullets don't count.

     

    You're using ur personal experience to decide whether if Entropia is gambling?  Have you actually gone to MA headquarters and discussed the logistics of the games economics with the makers? No.  Exactly - so you're personal experience in this particular case is irrelevant, as you haven't properly evaluated the games fundementals.  This lottery inspection company has ;)

     

    And why is it someone always mentioning or expecting to become rich ingame? are you such a failure in real life or something?  You pay for entertainment!  Why don't you go to the makers of Age of Conan and say "ur game is rubbish, i want to play for free"!  I'll tell you why, coz the entertainment that you get from Entropia (when you play it properly) is paramount to any other game i've played online.  And i've played many games online!  In actual fact in my early days of playing entropia, i had the same thinking as you and i decided to quit entropia - i had all this spare time to hand so i researched so many other games.  Eve, WoW, Last Chaos, Cabal, Perfect World, so many more... but the fundemental enjoyment that i got out of playing entropia was so much better. And so i came back.  Sure the game is frustrating at times, the same as in all online games there's frustration.

     

    Let me use an analogy.  If you like paying and going to the cinema for unique experience - play this game... If you download ur films off torrents the cheap way ;) this game isnt for you.

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  • Renton81Renton81 Member Posts: 92
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    Calling or e-mailing the company and asking them if their game is a gambling game is upfront evidence? Maybe I should call Enron and ask if the really had a finacial scandal?

     

    Contact the company i mentioned in the OP (I didnt say MindArk did i?).  Read carefully next time, but i'll just repeat again for you ;) This company has nothing to do with Entropia, its a prestigious Lottery Inspection organisation.

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  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181

    It makes me laugh that there are people still so totally convinced you can't gamble and that this game isn't one of gambling

     

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  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Entropia Universe is not a game of Gambling

    This statement might not have been more true back when the game first came out and was fresh. More and more changes have been made to the game and those changes just increased the luck of the dealer/house and lower the winnings of the players.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,665
    Originally posted by avneet


    "EU will die soon"
    Quoted for the truth. If they don't get their greed fixed this will happen. Esp/ with mindark spliting too.
    Reason you ahven't heard about Afterworld is because we get banned when we put it in Entropiaforums(even off topic). I wonder why =P And reason it's not on site yet is because it's still alpha and not beta.

     

    Actually, the reason its not on the site is probably because no one has bothered to submit it MMORPG.com per the standards set in the FAQ.

    www.mmorpg.com/faq.cfm/showFaq/4

    Being in an alpha state isn't one of the reqs.

     

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  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444

    I wish you could reason with the zealots, but there apparantly is no reasoning with faith.

    To the OP: Your zeal for saying this game isn't gambling based on what a gonvernment-commissioned office says is assinine at best. Your reason for saying this game isn't gambling, should reason around the fact that the loot drop is so terrible, you never win; with the caveat of if you are one of the same five people that are always hofing.

     

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  • avneetavneet Member Posts: 68

    Already on it for submiting Afterworld to mmorpg.com. Sending email out to them hopefully by tonight with everything.

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  • liumlium Member Posts: 138

    nice once on mmorpg aw will sky roket and EU suscribers will drop to 20%

  • avneetavneet Member Posts: 68

    And once those 20% left start losing even more money from MA not being able to sustain the game, the game will be stopped and everyone who didn't withdraw by that time will loose their money. Yes go check the EULA they can do that and not give you your money.

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  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181

    Yup, exactly

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  • NddeshNddesh Member Posts: 65

    EU isn't gambling .. if you see it as a gambling game.. then its your problem.. and Afterworld is in the same boat... EU is entertaining... buying an DVD at 40$ that you will probably watch once.. is an entertainment too.. comparing Gambling and EU is just like... Marines and Terrorist... they both got weapon, trained, they kill people but aren't there for the same purpose..

  • avneetavneet Member Posts: 68

    Actually when you look at who runs terrorists and who was running the marines, it was the same boat(not saying marines themselves but who controlled them).

    You can continue saying it's not gambling, but no one will believe you just saying it's not gambling with no real reason why compared to everyone else saying it is gambling with our reasons to back it up =P

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  • MrchompyMrchompy Member Posts: 58

    If you're in it for the money, then you could see it as gambling. Otherwise it's entertainment.

    For me, it's not, because I'm paying to play, at a reasonable rate and even if I got a huge loot, it would go towards my charactor, not be cashed out.

  • avneetavneet Member Posts: 68
    Originally posted by Mrchompy


    If you're in it for the money, then you could see it as gambling. Otherwise it's entertainment.
    For me, it's not, because I'm paying to play, at a reasonable rate and even if I got a huge loot, it would go towards my charactor, not be cashed out.

     

    Very true Chompy but I was describing it as how what new people first think of when they hear of EU. Like when you look at ads EU places. People come in with the feeling to make money because it's a real world economy and in that sense it's gambling before they even realize it.

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  • Nytewolf2k7Nytewolf2k7 Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by avneet

    Originally posted by Mrchompy


    If you're in it for the money, then you could see it as gambling. Otherwise it's entertainment.
    For me, it's not, because I'm paying to play, at a reasonable rate and even if I got a huge loot, it would go towards my charactor, not be cashed out.

     

    Very true Chompy but I was describing it as how what new people first think of when they hear of EU. Like when you look at ads EU places. People come in with the feeling to make money because it's a real world economy and in that sense it's gambling before they even realize it.

    That's a dead ringer for how I was sucked into the game. The picture that was painted was almost nothing like what it was actually like ingame. Though I hear that the very people who advertised it in my local paper back in Jan 2007 aren't doing quite so well now

    Pretty much everything I've said about this service is true.

     

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  • cultura82cultura82 Member UncommonPosts: 27

    It was gambling back in 2003-2004, now it is an armed rubbery!


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  • liumlium Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by cultura82


    It was gambling back in 2003-2004, now it is an armed rubbery!



     

    Fact, it was funn up to 2005 before they started nerfing thinks one by one.

    I think the best think they made so far is so youy need to pay to change cloth and armor the message was ‘we want more money’ and the gamblers just accepted it as long they give them the platform they can rob them of everything so sad and pathetic.

     

    The only good think is few of us old players decided to warn poor noobys.

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