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Man decapitates another man with Rambo knife on Greyhound bus.

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  • WolfenprideWolfenpride Member Posts: 3,988

    My question is why did he kill this guy/attack the bus?

    What was his motive?

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride


    My question is why did he kill this guy/attack the bus?
    What was his motive?



     

    That's the scary part. Apparently, he didn't have one.

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride


    My question is why did he kill this guy/attack the bus?
    What was his motive?

     

    He was CrazyHigh on drugs.

     

    Id lean towards the drugs idea tho afterall he is described as being very 'Robot like' which could indicate he was not actually there if you get my meaning.

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  • IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142

    Some of the passengers that were interviewed by the news stations here claim the guy was either native or of some sort of Asian decent.  Other then that, no info has been released as to the motive or the circumstances under which the murder was committed.

    No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-

  • daylight01daylight01 Member Posts: 2,250

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by tvalentine


     And in California, only celebrities, politicians and police type people can only carry a gun legally. My dad tryed to get a permit(he has one in AZ) but was denied because he wasnt famous or ina police related job. And i cant imagine other states making you take all those training, courses and tests etc. California is a bit more liberal then the rest of the U.S.



     

    All citizens can get a concealed weapon permit in California as long as you dont have a felony record.

    If your father got denied then he should have gotten a lawyer...thats like saying you get denied a driver's license because you're not Brad Pitt.

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Enigma


     
    California is a “May Issue” state; the decision to grant a CCW (Carry a Concealed Weapon) Permit being granted (or refused) at the discretion of the County Sheriff or Police Chief. Some sheriffs/chiefs issue on a reasonable basis, others can be next to impossible to persuade. Many of them operate illegal policies that are ripe for a challenge.



     



     

    That is probably why he was denied, Enigma. It's also the reason mine has restrictions to work-related only. Because the Police Chief and Sheriff both in my county ( Fresno County ) do not agree with citizens having guns and do everything they can to throw as many obstacles as they can.

    Edit: As a matter of fact, I have a good friend who is ex-PD. He started his own security company ( I actually worked for him and he was the one to get me started on my own ) , applied for his concealed permit, and has the same restrictions that I do. That's how bad the head cops here are against CCWs, even an ex-cop can't get an unrestricted one easily.

  • grendal77grendal77 Member Posts: 2

     This is I must agree a rather disturbing story. Sorry to get off subject and back on the off subject. I remeber reading about rather extensively a boy in Michigan who killed a man in his grandfather';s garage and also decapitated him. Apparenlty a no motive case as well. But once I looked at it closer there was a motive it was just so beneath the act, and overshadowed by the act that most believed it was far to ridiculous of a notion. But this one from reading it and rather reading between the lines, there is a motive of atleast control and thrill killing there. First off from what the witnesses are saying the boy who was killed was sleeping at the start of the attack, well that means to me the attacker waited for the situation to be most favorable for him, so I can't see this as a totally random attack there was some premeditation there.  The other thing is he didn't care about the witnesses, that is apparent he wanted this to be shocking and public, makes me believe part of the motivation was thrill killing. But really when you add this up I am willing to believe he did this to get someone's attention, I simply can't just call this one a psycho and push him under the rug there is something going on in his head, with some method to it.  And I think it will be interesting to find out, and I am willing to beat it will be something petty. But then anything he could claim as a excuse for this act would be petty. It is a shame that Canada doesn't have the death penalty , this is certainly one that no matter what they find out I think is deserving.

  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662
    Originally posted by frodus

    Originally posted by Zindaihas


    You guys debating the God vs atheism angle might both be incorrect.  I'm not saying the perpetrator of this horrendous crime is, but the first thing I wondered is whether or not he might be a Satanist, neither worshiping God nor discounting His existence, but instead worshiping His arch-enemy.  It's true the number of overt Satan worshipers is not very high, but they are out there.  And as the embodiment of evil, it might be this guy's desire to commit evil acts himself.  It's even possible that he is without even admiting it to himself or anyone else.  His background will surely come out as his future unfolds.  Personal beliefs may have had absolutely nothing to do with this whatsoever.  Maybe he was just on some wicked drug and it caused him to hallucinate or something.

    this was your 777 post ..i think you might be right.lets see what his back ground is.



     

    Huh, that was my 777th post.  Weird.  Yahoo posted an article on the story with a picture of the guy and video link with it.  Here it is:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing

  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186

    I have a question, why didn't anyone help the guy? They all run over each other on their way out, and then they look back. They are probably just saying that the guy was gone, at that point, to make themselves feel better. Yeah. And that seems to be typical behavior during bus attacks too, they will all sit there and watch you get murdered before doing a damn thing to help you.

    Remember all of this BS when the socialists demand that America goes to a mass transit-based society. NO it isn't that much better in Europe, which has FAR less violent cultures than we do.

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  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186


    Originally posted by daylight01
    Well bushmonkey it seems we dont live in different countries but different worlds,I am sorry but I still dont see how arming everyone makes the world better
    It is a proven fact, time and again, that where carry and concealed permits are allowed crime goes down. It is safer.


    ,maybe there are ppl that have saved live's because they were carry a side arm and it doesnt get as much coverage as say 2 students killing there class mates in columbine,
    What happened at Columbine, as well as other schools (VT), lays squarely at the feet of the school that allowed a person with a gun to enter the grounds in tandem with insufficient/non-existent security.



    I live in a society were we use the police and laws,sure I have been jumped by people for little more than there enjoyment and we have fought,thank god though niether of us had a gun,cuts and bruises heal over.

    Surely not Europe or Canada? They use broken beer bottles and knives to murder over in those places, and young teens and children are paying the price with their lives. In fact I think their crime rates have jumped since the gun ban.

    I also seriously doubt that you are a female of any age that has ever spent any time driving through, much less living, in a shady area. I would have no freaking chance if I were jumped by a single man, much less two or more- unless I had a firearm.

    Having a ban on guns isn't fair, it isn't right.

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  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by tvalentine

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by tvalentine

    Originally posted by daylight01

    Originally posted by tvalentine

    Originally posted by daylight01


    Well bushmonkey it seems we dont live in different countries but different worlds,I am sorry but I still dont see how arming everyone makes the world better,maybe there are ppl that have saved live's because they were carry a side arm and it doesnt get as much coverage as say 2 students killing there class mates in columbine,I live in a society were we use the police and laws,sure I have been jumped by people for little more than there enjoyment and we have fought,thank god though niether of us had a gun,cuts and bruises heal over.



     

    so how much time will the person in the OP's story need to fully recover?



     

    Like I have said before this was a terrible act but also like I said before would it have been better or even alot more worse if the passengers and bus driver were armed with side arms and shotguns?

    I wont reply again in this topic as it seems people have there own strong beliefs and it has gone way off topic and like I said maybe 4 pages back this just opens a whole new can of worms.



     

    shotguns? wtf kinda fantasy land are you thinking of. You are taught when you are aloud to use your CONCEALED firearm (Pistol). Its not like they give them away like fuckin candy at your local willy wonka store. Your generalization of "arming civilians" is so screwed up im glad this is your last post in this thread. You go and take a class for a day to get your license. During that class you are tuaght of the laws and rules. Unlike the class you go to to use/carry knives ... oh wait ....

    While I am pro-gun ownership and myself have a permit for both open and concealed carry ( due to my profession ), one days training that the average person ( i.e. someone who's never even handled a gun before ) recieves is inadequate as hell, and can/does do more harm than good in alot of cases. It's one of the reasons obtaining a concealed weapons permit here in California has been made hard as hell/next to impossible to do. Every law abiding person should have the right to carry a gun, but they should have to go through rigorous training, for a few weeks at least, in order to exercise that right.

    Whereas I have P.O.S.T. certification training along with yearly mandatory refresher courses, re-qualification tests, and an upbringing in a home/environment of gun owners, the average soccer mom who goes and gets a concealed permit because she's afraid to shop alone at night can be more of a threat than the criminals she's afraid of.

     



     

    i didnt think the person who was teaching the class would give the soccer mom or the inadequate person a license if he didnt think it was a good idea .... although i dunno .....

    And in California, only celebrities, politicians and police type people can only carry a gun legally. My dad tryed to get a permit(he has one in AZ) but was denied because he wasnt famous or ina police related job. And i cant imagine other states making you take all those training, courses and tests etc. California is a bit more liberal then the rest of the U.S.



     

    ( not THAT kind of escort lol )



     

    sure...surte...that is what they all say isn't it...

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by BushMonkey


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing



    Oh this story just gets sicker.



     

    He was fucking EATING him?!? Dear God...............

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    Originally posted by Gazenthia


     

    Originally posted by daylight01

    Well bushmonkey it seems we dont live in different countries but different worlds,I am sorry but I still dont see how arming everyone makes the world better
    It is a proven fact, time and again, that where carry and concealed permits are allowed crime goes down. It is safer.




    ,maybe there are ppl that have saved live's because they were carry a side arm and it doesnt get as much coverage as say 2 students killing there class mates in columbine,

    What happened at Columbine, as well as other schools (VT), lays squarely at the feet of the school that allowed a person with a gun to enter the grounds in tandem with insufficient/non-existent security.

     

     





    I live in a society were we use the police and laws,sure I have been jumped by people for little more than there enjoyment and we have fought,thank god though niether of us had a gun,cuts and bruises heal over.

     

    Surely not Europe or Canada? They use broken beer bottles and knives to murder over in those places, and young teens and children are paying the price with their lives. In fact I think their crime rates have jumped since the gun ban.

    I also seriously doubt that you are a female of any age that has ever spent any time driving through, much less living, in a shady area. I would have no freaking chance if I were jumped by a single man, much less two or more- unless I had a firearm.

    Having a ban on guns isn't fair, it isn't right.

    Canada, we have a fraction of the murders that you guys do, yet more crime.

    In britain, as far as Im aware, their police still dont even carry guns.

    If you feel that unsafe, Move.

    I feel no need for a gun, and If I ever felt I needed one, Id make sure not to get into that situation again.

    Proven time and time again? its not proven. Most experts say an outright and enforced gun ban would solve MANY problems.

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  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by BushMonkey


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing



    Oh this story just gets sicker.



     

    He was fucking EATING him?!? Dear God...............



     

    its the t virus!

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

     

    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Zorvan

    Originally posted by BushMonkey


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing



    Oh this story just gets sicker.



     

    He was fucking EATING him?!? Dear God...............



     

    its the t virus!

    Very morbid. No wonder I like you.

     

    Originally posted by Munki

    Originally posted by Gazenthia


     

    Originally posted by daylight01

    Well bushmonkey it seems we dont live in different countries but different worlds,I am sorry but I still dont see how arming everyone makes the world better
    It is a proven fact, time and again, that where carry and concealed permits are allowed crime goes down. It is safer.




    ,maybe there are ppl that have saved live's because they were carry a side arm and it doesnt get as much coverage as say 2 students killing there class mates in columbine,

    What happened at Columbine, as well as other schools (VT), lays squarely at the feet of the school that allowed a person with a gun to enter the grounds in tandem with insufficient/non-existent security.

     

     





    I live in a society were we use the police and laws,sure I have been jumped by people for little more than there enjoyment and we have fought,thank god though niether of us had a gun,cuts and bruises heal over.

     

    Surely not Europe or Canada? They use broken beer bottles and knives to murder over in those places, and young teens and children are paying the price with their lives. In fact I think their crime rates have jumped since the gun ban.

    I also seriously doubt that you are a female of any age that has ever spent any time driving through, much less living, in a shady area. I would have no freaking chance if I were jumped by a single man, much less two or more- unless I had a firearm.

    Having a ban on guns isn't fair, it isn't right.

    Canada, we have a fraction of the murders that you guys do, yet more crime.

    In britain, as far as Im aware, their police still dont even carry guns.

    If you feel that unsafe, Move.

    I feel no need for a gun, and If I ever felt I needed one, Id make sure not to get into that situation again.

    Proven time and time again? its not proven. Most experts say an outright and enforced gun ban would solve MANY problems.



     

    Handguns were banned in Washington, D.C. It then became a murder capital. Same with New York.

  • TheFranchiseTheFranchise Member Posts: 241

    <blockquote><i>Originally posted by daylight01</i>
    <p>Also now you go on about death camps,have you any fucking idea what the people at the death camps went through?</p>
    <p>You are comming across as a very uneducated man,I suggest you do some research.</p></b></blockquote>
    <br>

    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."

    Adolf Hitler, 1935

  • BushMonkeyBushMonkey Member Posts: 1,406

    Time for Canada to ban the long blade knives huh?  Maybe they should consider it...UK has

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411652/posts



    Can pointy sticks be far behind?

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    Originally posted by BushMonkey


    Time for Canada to ban the long blade knives huh?  Maybe they should consider it...UK has

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1411652/posts



    Can pointy sticks be far behind?

    Im sorry but I fail to see the arguement... sarcasm... soo thick.... cant see a point or anything.

     

    Edit: and to the handgun bans in newyork and washington, thats not a ban. When you can drive an hour and get a legal handgun, you can successfully enforce a ban. It would need to be a much more widespread attempt and properly executed.

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  • eXergoeXergo Member Posts: 3

    thats just digusting, how much more can the world take

  • OuchmuchOuchmuch Member Posts: 340

     

      I and I am sure many other Canadians are fully aware that this guy is likely to get little more then a slap on the wrist and be sent to bed without dinner.. ironically that could very well end up being a worse punishment then sending him to one of the prisons up here... Pampered would be an understatement, as for having faith in our "Justice System" bwahahahahah killers up here have received HOUSE ARREST.. we even had a dangerous offender (essentially a life sentence) placed in a minimum security prison that he promptly walked away from and is still on the loose.

     

  • JosherJosher Member Posts: 2,818

    Boy, if the US wasn't here to protect you guys, Canada would be screwed=)

  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by Aldwin


    God, that is beyond horrible. I sincerely hope that nutjob gets the death penalty....



     

    The perpetrator certainly deserves the death penalty, as I see the facts so far.  And I hope the form of the penalty is something like hanging, and none of this lethal injection crap.

  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662
    Originally posted by BushMonkey


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing



    Oh this story just gets sicker.



     

    What really strikes me as bizarre after reading that latest article is that the killer was a model employee and is married.  Those are not usually characteristics of someone who committed such a morbid act.  We know from the article that he's going to be fired, I wonder if his wife will divorce him now.  Is this legitimate grounds for divorce? (that last sentence was sarcasm, btw, in case you are wondering.)

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