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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444

    Someone in another thread said Aventurine owns 35% of AVS.  Is that true?

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  • KshnikKshnik Member Posts: 57

    I said it appears that they might.  I havent been able to confirm.

  • KshnikKshnik Member Posts: 57

    "Are you really that stupied?  Iraq had WMD.  We saw them used againts Iran and the kurds.   FACT

    What happen to Iraq's WMD, your guess is as good as mine but to say they never had them is stupid."

    Most likely the WMD were sold to Iraq by the US and they felt that it would be better to say there was none rather than to say that they were American.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686

    Found this on the Darkfall main website. Kinda suitable in this thread -

    http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=3b7289524c57fd4524c8826f5547ba46

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by Aragon100


    Found this on the Darkfall main website. Kinda suitable in this thread -
    http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=3b7289524c57fd4524c8826f5547ba46

     

    Polar already posted that link in another tread.

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  • andreibaruandreibaru Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by Kshnik


    "Are you really that stupied?  Iraq had WMD.  We saw them used againts Iran and the kurds.   FACT
    What happen to Iraq's WMD, your guess is as good as mine but to say they never had them is stupid."
    Most likely the WMD were sold to Iraq by the US and they felt that it would be better to say there was none rather than to say that they were American.



     

    WoW.. i pop on to the Darkfall forums and find a completely uniformed idiot . /no-surprise

     

    Umm.. its pretty fucking public common knowledge that we gave Irag WMD's to gas the Iranians. It was also pretty known in the intelligence community that Iraq had no more WMD's. In fact.. we listened to them talking about it and we 100% believed them. But thats neither here nor there.  I just like your whole "most likely" hypothesis . Simillar to someone in the year 2008 saying.. "someday we will have these things called TV's"

  • Cway214Cway214 Member UncommonPosts: 92
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by sayitwithme

    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Martie


    Get a grip on reality.  Until there is actual relevent news on a release date or proper agaming magazines or sites see the game, then this game is nothing but someones joke gone to far.  When i mean a proper website, I dont mean some obscure madeup site from greece.



     

    Sorry you fail again.  Trolls have a hard time giving up on something.  With a publisher everything else will fall into place.



     

    Bye bye. iam going to play Dark and light. Oh wait!! I can't play that because its terrible.  BUT BUT they had a publisher named SnailGames!! so it must be good.  Right?

    Delusional sap.

    Oh wait Dark and Light was released because they had a publisher.... I never said that this means Darkfall is going to be the best game ever.. that is yet to be seen... but with a publisher in place, it will be released. 

    You are so hate filled you cant see the writing on the wall.   A publisher means the game will be released it has nothing to do with if the game will be good or not.   This post is not about it being a great game or not.  It is about killing the VAPORWARE crap.   

     

    Darkfall has a publisher and will be released.  No longer Vaporware.  We all need to wait and see now if it lives up to its feature list.

    Mike470 - I know never said this means the game is going to be great, it just means the game will be released.

     

    gods 'n' heroes had a publisher...

     

    you realize, if you have a publisher, you end up with deadlines to meet and progress to make, right?

     

    mmmkay...



     

    Also, wasn't gods 'n' heroes already in beta??

  • KshnikKshnik Member Posts: 57

    Someone is rather angry, I see.  And a typical Amercian response.

    I find Americans rather selfish and pompous especially now that I have lived, temporalily mind you, for a few months on assignment near Washington DC.  

    Sorry that I am not up to date on the poorly functional status of your government.   

     

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444

    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

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  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287
    Originally posted by Roin


    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

     

      Where else could such a topic lead you?  Its a group of people against another group of people regarding which lackluster face-piece is better than the next.  Discussing politics is akin to discussing gangs.  It doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both crooks and cutthroats.  The premier difference is defined in how they choose to disguise that fact.

      In fact, I can showcase this easily!  Log into EVE and give the majority of its corps a look.  Anytime you give people any sort of power, its all about how to keep that power from then on...and how to expand it.  All the "newbie help" and "economic stimulus packages" are, as always, just means to that end.  Its never actually about the little guy. 

      I'm so glad EVE was made.  I won't play it...but it IS nice to be able to direct a politics discussion back into gaming when you have such an easy reference point. 

      Now.

      Who wants to log into an MMO and grind for 6 hours in hopes that we can make ourselves forget how much our race sucks? 

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Roin


    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

     

      Where else could such a topic lead you?  Its a group of people against another group of people regarding which lackluster face-piece is better than the next.  Discussing politics is akin to discussing gangs.  It doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both crooks and cutthroats.  The premier difference is defined in how they choose to disguise that fact.

      In fact, I can showcase this easily!  Log into EVE and give the majority of its corps a look.  Anytime you give people any sort of power, its all about how to keep that power from then on...and how to expand it.  All the "newbie help" and "economic stimulus packages" are, as always, just means to that end.  Its never actually about the little guy. 

      I'm so glad EVE was made.  I won't play it...but it IS nice to be able to direct a politics discussion back into gaming when you have such an easy reference point. 

      Now.

      Who wants to log into an MMO and grind for 6 hours in hopes that we can make ourselves forget how much our race sucks? 

     

    Think I just found me a new quote

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  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,021

    one thing that gets me, and perhaps I just look at things differently then this dev team, but this has been explained as their life's work. Or, basically, their dream project.

    Now, I've worked on quite a few things that are not my dream projects, but when I reach various milestones in those projects, I am quite proud and I like to show people, who are paying attention, what I've done. Now this is just for my development which usually doesn't have any fancy interface and certainly nothing as flashy as an MMO.

    If I were working on my dream MMO project, just try to keep me from spamming the community with screenshots and videos. Hell, if one week I got character walking down, you'd have a video If I could make a character walk backwards the next week, that would be another video. And let's not minimize the inportance of a working /dance emote! I would do a full length film on that.

    My point is, if it were something I was proud of, it wouldn't be work to hype it, it would be a matter of pride. I can't imagine my way of thinking is that far off of the beaten path. I guess I am like a lot of people, troll or fan, who just wants to see more.

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  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Ztalin

    Originally posted by TdogSkal 




    Darkfall has a publisher and will be released.  No longer Vaporware.  We all need to wait and see now if it lives up to its feature list.



     

    Dragon Empires had a publisher and was cancelled.

    Mythica had a publisher and was cancelled.

    UOX had a publisher and was cancelled.

    UO2....

    Gods & Heroes..

    WISH was canned in Beta...

    and I'am probably missing a few..

    Aventurine doesn't have shit except a played out 7 year old piece of shitty unfinished , untested software that they are now trying to kick out of the door by hiring some third world CD distribution company who sells their products to third world countries because they can't get a real video game publisher to touch this junk.

    Anyone who doesn't see this obvious fact is a SUCKER.

    If the game is good why not partner with Fileplanet and go straight to Direct2drive.com ???  HMMMMMMM???? Because places like that have STANDARDS that need to be met before they sell anything for you.

    GURANTEED this thing will not come out this year.. .if ever.

     

    Oh shitty untested software you say? =) What do you know of Aventurine game engine? It have been upgraded many times over the years and as of today the quality of graphics is as good as Age of Conans. Darkfall graphic style owns Age of Conans any day. Then we all know that Darkfall gameplay have potential to own any previous MMORPG. So id say waiting for Darkfall is easy to understand.

    But you obviously isnt one of them that is waiting for Darkfall, why you here then in the first place? Troll.

    And btw, i think there is way more games that actually got released then were canceled. =) You fail.

  • DrakEQ2DrakEQ2 Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Aragon100


     Oh shitty untested software you say? =) What do you know of Aventurine game engine? It have been upgraded many times over the years and as of today the quality of graphics is as good as Age of Conans. Darkfall graphic style owns Age of Conans any day. Then we all know that Darkfall gameplay have potential to own any previous MMORPG. So id say waiting for Darkfall is easy to understand.
    But you obviously isnt one of them that is waiting for Darkfall, why you here then in the first place? Troll.

     

    Trying to claim DF has visuals anywhere near Age of Conan's is simply ridiculous and untrue, its ironic because you DF fans don't even know where the game stands, one minute they claim it will run on 5 year old tech and the next minute its being compared to a modern day visual masterpiece meant to run on top end hardware.

    The question is, what DO you know of Aventurines engine? what solid info and data can YOU provide? you sit here and defend the game to the hilt without providing even a smidgeon of evidence to back up your claims, and then have the audacity to call someone else a troll?

    The visual quality is as good as AoC is it? put together a comparison and PROVE IT.

    With arguements like "it has potential to own" , "darkfall graphic style owns age of conans any day" and no form of solid info whatsoever you expect to be taken seriously?

    No wonder the game is touted as Vaporware with such a pack of biased, uninformed weaselly trolls running around fanboi'ing it up, often the subject of poor community and elitist attitudes.

     

    You do your game of choice more damage than good.

     

     

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  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630
    Originally posted by DrakEQ2

    Originally posted by Aragon100


     Oh shitty untested software you say? =) What do you know of Aventurine game engine? It have been upgraded many times over the years and as of today the quality of graphics is as good as Age of Conans. Darkfall graphic style owns Age of Conans any day. Then we all know that Darkfall gameplay have potential to own any previous MMORPG. So id say waiting for Darkfall is easy to understand.
    But you obviously isnt one of them that is waiting for Darkfall, why you here then in the first place? Troll.

     

    Trying to claim DF has visuals anywhere near Age of Conan's is simply ridiculous and untrue, its ironic because you DF fans don't even know where the game stands, one minute they claim it will run on 5 year old tech and the next minute its being compared to a modern day visual masterpiece meant to run on top end hardware.

    The question is, what DO you know of Aventurines engine? what solid info and data can YOU provide? you sit here and defend the game to the hilt without providing even a smidgeon of evidence to back up your claims, and then have the audacity to call someone else a troll?

    The visual quality is as good as AoC is it? put together a comparison and PROVE IT.

    With arguements like "it has potential to own" , "darkfall graphic style owns age of conans any day" and no form of solid info whatsoever you expect to be taken seriously?

    No wonder the game is touted as Vaporware with such a pack of biased, uninformed weaselly trolls running around fanboi'ing it up, often the subject of poor community and elitist attitudes.

     

    You do your game of choice more damage than good.

     

     



     

    Theres only one troll here and youre looking at yourself. Aragon does no damage whatsoever. The game is only touted a vaporware by people like yourself trying to prove a pointless point. Why are you here theres no contribution. The thread is just a complete troll fest anyway, shame ....

    Where do you get your evidence the software is shitty I am interested...

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  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287
    Originally posted by Roin

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Roin


    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

     

      Where else could such a topic lead you?  Its a group of people against another group of people regarding which lackluster face-piece is better than the next.  Discussing politics is akin to discussing gangs.  It doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both crooks and cutthroats.  The premier difference is defined in how they choose to disguise that fact.

      In fact, I can showcase this easily!  Log into EVE and give the majority of its corps a look.  Anytime you give people any sort of power, its all about how to keep that power from then on...and how to expand it.  All the "newbie help" and "economic stimulus packages" are, as always, just means to that end.  Its never actually about the little guy. 

      I'm so glad EVE was made.  I won't play it...but it IS nice to be able to direct a politics discussion back into gaming when you have such an easy reference point. 

      Now.

      Who wants to log into an MMO and grind for 6 hours in hopes that we can make ourselves forget how much our race sucks? 

     

    Think I just found me a new quote

     

      Well....hell, I guess I'm honored!  I think you just secured my place as a forum junkie.  Thanks! 

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  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524

    People are not trolls just because they have a different point of view than you, Aragon100, and they're not trolls just because you say so.  A troll posts to make people angry enough to force a reaction from them, in which case, you qualify as one yourself.  A lot of people looked forward to Darkfall and are disappointed in what's transpired in the last several years, which is basically not much.  The people calling shenanigans on this game are absolutely justified.  Most of the criticism of Darkfall can be put squarely on the shoulders of it's own developers, in my opinion. 

    People come here to have discussions about games, pro and con, negative and positive.  That's how these places work.  If you don't like it, you can bugger off yourself.  People will continue to post their opinions in spite of you.

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444

    Oh Signe's back.  One of my favorite posters from the General Discussion area.

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  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

    so i'm still curious... 7 years in development with a custom-made game/graphic engine and what have we seen other than a couple of screen shots?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Rollotamasi

    Originally posted by Martie

    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Martie


    This is like 3d relams making duke nukem forever.  Dont worry we have everything in place and it will be released soon, but in the mean time here is some more information.
    Hey I couldnt give a dman about the same recycled crap posted over and over again.  Show this game to a bloody proper respected gaming site and magazine.



     

    whats a proper gaming site or Magazine?  The only magazine or websites that I know about that review games and post interviews are all sellouts.  More money = better scores.   Its native to think that any proper gaming site or magazine do fair reviews, all reviews are based on dollars sent to that site or magazine.

     

    Get a grip and calm down.  im not talking about a review, im talking about showing their game to a gaming site like computerandvideogames.com or gamespot etc for a preview and nothing more.  If they cant even do that then this trully is just all made up shit tbh.

     

    While I haven't been following the development of darkfall much I have to agree.  A preview on a major games site would have a huge impact.  As it stands now it's a bit like the weapons of mass destruction arguement.  "They have WMD's!!"  "Do you have proof" "No, but they have WMD'S!!" "How about just a little proof?" "THEY HAVE WMD's AND YOUR A TERRORIST IF YOU DONT AGREE!!!!". 



     

    Only problem with your argument is they did have WMD, we saw them used in the 80s vs Iran and early 90s vs the Kruds but again that doesnt count for all you bush haters. (I hate bush too but Iraq was right but handled wrong).

    So they have to show you the game on a "proper" gaming site to make it real?  Why?  I dont want the same hype that Age of Crapness got.

     

    now see, this is the darkfall fanboi mentality to which we're accustomed.

     

    everything factual, pre- & post-iraq invasion state NO wmd.  period.  everything FACTUAL.  i want to emphasize that word.

     

    so, when darkfall is released (  ), what type of gaming/video engine we talking?

     

    what are the requirements for a "supposed" mmo to get a forum on this site; because honestly, i'm thinking i want to add five or six, since darkfall is still here.



     

    Are you really that stupied?  Iraq had WMD.  We saw them used againts Iran and the kurds.   FACT

    What happen to Iraq's WMD, your guess is as good as mine but to say they never had them is stupid.

    As far as Darkfall's gaming/video engine?  They have said it was custom made for this game.  So at this time we do not know.

     

    this reply completely makes my point.

     

    i understand what "vaporware troll" means now... it's a troll that supports vaporware... like darkfall.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Roin


    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

     

      Where else could such a topic lead you?  Its a group of people against another group of people regarding which lackluster face-piece is better than the next.  Discussing politics is akin to discussing gangs.  It doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both crooks and cutthroats.  The premier difference is defined in how they choose to disguise that fact.

      In fact, I can showcase this easily!  Log into EVE and give the majority of its corps a look.  Anytime you give people any sort of power, its all about how to keep that power from then on...and how to expand it.  All the "newbie help" and "economic stimulus packages" are, as always, just means to that end.  Its never actually about the little guy. 

      I'm so glad EVE was made.  I won't play it...but it IS nice to be able to direct a politics discussion back into gaming when you have such an easy reference point. 

      Now.

      Who wants to log into an MMO and grind for 6 hours in hopes that we can make ourselves forget how much our race sucks? 

     

    by grinding, do you mean flying around in a stealthed-out ship and blowing people up while sipping on scotch?  

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Signe


    People are not trolls just because they have a different point of view than you, Aragon100, and they're not trolls just because you say so.  A troll posts to make people angry enough to force a reaction from them, in which case, you qualify as one yourself.  A lot of people looked forward to Darkfall and are disappointed in what's transpired in the last several years, which is basically not much.  The people calling shenanigans on this game are absolutely justified.  Most of the criticism of Darkfall can be put squarely on the shoulders of it's own developers, in my opinion. 
    People come here to have discussions about games, pro and con, negative and positive.  That's how these places work.  If you don't like it, you can bugger off yourself.  People will continue to post their opinions in spite of you.

     

    maybe he's just bad at viral posting, and instead of getting good attention for his employer, he's just getting attention?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Originally posted by Roin


    This conversation has taken a turn for the worse.  Well politics is always one of those nasty hot buttons you should never bring up, even within a gaming community.

     

      Where else could such a topic lead you?  Its a group of people against another group of people regarding which lackluster face-piece is better than the next.  Discussing politics is akin to discussing gangs.  It doesn't matter which one you pick, they're both crooks and cutthroats.  The premier difference is defined in how they choose to disguise that fact.

      In fact, I can showcase this easily!  Log into EVE and give the majority of its corps a look.  Anytime you give people any sort of power, its all about how to keep that power from then on...and how to expand it.  All the "newbie help" and "economic stimulus packages" are, as always, just means to that end.  Its never actually about the little guy. 

      I'm so glad EVE was made.  I won't play it...but it IS nice to be able to direct a politics discussion back into gaming when you have such an easy reference point. 

      Now.

      Who wants to log into an MMO and grind for 6 hours in hopes that we can make ourselves forget how much our race sucks? 

     

    by grinding, do you mean flying around in a stealthed-out ship and blowing people up while sipping on scotch?  

     

      My version would include whiskey, but...what the hell.  Its a party.  The end is the same, we forget how much life, our race, and everything sucks.

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  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524

    Scotch IS whisky! 

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