Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months.
Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do....
About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ?
Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch
Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months. Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do.... About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ? Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Nice FutureBoy! It may be and it may not be. We will see and it will be fun! =D
All the people bashing ghoul for posting his experience with the beta. Don't understand you bashing him. Out of curiosity, why are the people bashing Ghoul not bashing the people posting threads saying how much they love the game from their beta experience? Seems very hypocritical to me.
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months. Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do.... About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ? Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Alanon, next time you play for a while, exit the game and look in your task manager. See that thing labeled "Age Of Conan" that's STILL running, and using a massive amount of resources? That's the debugger / logger still running. THAT is your "memory leak". That will ne be in the release client.
After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months. Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do.... About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ? Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Alanon, next time you play for a while, exit the game and look in your task manager. See that thing labeled "Age Of Conan" that's STILL running, and using a massive amount of resources? That's the debugger / logger still running. THAT is your "memory leak". That will ne be in the release client.
After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
this is what happens to mmorpgs when investors start wanting to see a return in profits...
The problem is impatient investors, and every industry is plagued by them now.
One huge problem is that the investors are often not individuals, but institutions, and institutions judge their investments strictly on the numbers, and the short term numbers at that. Which is why short term low profitability that leads to long term high profitablity is ignored in favor of ROI NOW!
The videogaming industry is subject to the same investor narrow vision as anyone else. The results are painfully obvious to the customer base.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
All the people bashing ghoul for posting his experience with the beta. Don't understand you bashing him. Out of curiosity, why are the people bashing Ghoul not bashing the people posting threads saying how much they love the game from their beta experience? Seems very hypocritical to me.
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months. Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do.... About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ? Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Alanon, next time you play for a while, exit the game and look in your task manager. See that thing labeled "Age Of Conan" that's STILL running, and using a massive amount of resources? That's the debugger / logger still running. THAT is your "memory leak". That will ne be in the release client.
After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
Posted this in a similar thread in the AoC forums: Lets list what i found last night:
- The game wont boot in DX10 mode for me I'm using xp... so no DX10 for me
- After pressing the play button, i get to sit and stare at a stuck screen for 2 minutes before any kind of splash screen comes up. Hasn't happened to me
- Login server errors at least once per time i attempt to log in/create a char. Happened once during the night creating my third character. I tried it again immediately and there were no problems.
- 2 minute zoning times once you finally get in the game Zoning took me less than 30 seconds except when entering the city... then it was a little over a minute.
- Horrific choppiness when loading new textures into memory (Vanguard hitching all over again) No choppiness for me. I was on high setting with 8x AA and the only time I studdered a bit was in the tavern
- periods of significant network latency not for me
- w/ particles enabled, an annoying flashing/glitching that led to my first seizure particles were fine for me
- An inventory and char sheet full of flashing question marks not for me
- Falling through 50% of the bridges i crossed. crossed about 15 bridges during the night.. no falling
- Fell through the world twice. not once
- Got stuck underwater once not once
- Did i mention i crashed 8 times in 90 minutes of play? I had a crash when exiting the game for the night, after I played for about 2 hours... that was it.
I have to agree with everyone that's comparing this to Vanguard. I was an avid fan of the game during beta and i yelled and hollered at everyone who said the game wouldnt be ready. "It's just beta... It's still beta... It's a beta client... they still have debuggers running... they run on subpar servers to test load... etc etc". I was spouting it all as loud as i could. We all know how that ended up. I sincerely hope that's NOT what happens with AoC, but the issues i'm seeing are NOT due to a simple bug or two. AoC still has significant stability and engine issues to work out.
Is what it is folks. Feel free to defend the issue, but i wont be suckered into doing so again. If Funcom can prove me wrong, they've got a customer for life, but i just dont see it happening.
Before I say anything else.. I am FAR from an AOC fanboy.... you can check my posting history. If anything, I'm a LOTRO fanboy.
I had no intentions of playing the game at all, but when the Fileplanet beta offer came up, I decided to try it.
Overall, I was quite impressed with my beta experience last night. The game ran very well for me with very few problems. It was in much better shape than I had imagined after reading many of the posts here.
From what I've seen, it's a good quality game. I leveled a few toons... one to 7, one to 9 and another one to 8. The graphics are great, the combat is a bit different from other MMO's and I thought the animations were pretty smooth and interesting. Compare it with Vanguard? No way... nothing can ever be compared to that mess.
It's a shame, but I think the game is going to suffer from being waaaaay over-hyped. Everyone is looking for the WOW killer and the do all be all 3rd generation game... which I don't think it is. It's a step up from many current MMO's, but the WOW killer and 3rd generation game that's going to satisfy everyone looking for something new isn't going to be here for a long, long time... if ever.
Still... it's a good game and I'm actually thinking of playing it alongside with LOTRO.
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All the people bashing ghoul for posting his experience with the beta. Don't understand you bashing him. Out of curiosity, why are the people bashing Ghoul not bashing the people posting threads saying how much they love the game from their beta experience? Seems very hypocritical to me.
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
It's tragic and cheap.
Yeah, but it's so damn reflexive. Some of the pro AoC posts I've seen are so gushing that a PR flak would be embarassed to present them.
People come on and, from actual play experience, express how they reacted to the game, and they're savagely attacked. Instead of "well, I guess AoC is not for you" as a response, they're personally attacked for daring not to fall in love with it from the opening screen on. The OP actually said that they were impressed at first, but as they played the game, their enthusasm faded.
Obviously, every game is not for everyone. Especially with the MMORPG crowd, who on average seem to loathe WoW with every fiber of their being just because it's done very well...and expanded the market for MMOPRGs.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
All the people bashing ghoul for posting his experience with the beta. Don't understand you bashing him. Out of curiosity, why are the people bashing Ghoul not bashing the people posting threads saying how much they love the game from their beta experience? Seems very hypocritical to me.
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
It's tragic and cheap.
Says the poster child for Hatebois. lol. Crossover to any other game forums lately Vesavius to pan those games and their fans? Come on, you know you want to.
Good for the goose, good for the gander eh?
Oh, and btw, I have no vested interest in AoC one way or the other. I hope FC gets their act together for launch. These things are bad for our hobby in general.
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There's a nice game in there somewhere but after playing the FP open beta and keeping in mind that this game is released in under three weeks, I expect launch to be an epic fail. The cries of "it's beta!" and "there's a debugger" just don't hold water at this point. Well, they never really do, but there you go. If you hold your breath for a miracle patch, prepare to die because they just don't happen this close to release.
People with decent gaming machines are reporting stalling graphics, tedious loading times, lag... flashback to AO. There are HUGE memory leaks which Funcom seems to be blaming on the debugger, too, but I'll bet real money they're still there at release and are still the size of the Grand Canyon. They can spin it all they like, as usual, but launch day will tell the truth.
I still want the pretty box, but I have a feeling it'll be sitting on the shelf for several months while this game cooks. When it's done, I think I'll like it. I may actually turn off gore though, because it's almost silly in it's extreme. I don't need that to enjoy a game. I wish they had been a bit more realistic. I haven't seen nipples yet because I think they have them turned off. I did hear, however, that they need fixing because they poke through your clothing. How awesome is that? It made me laugh! I'm also not crazy about the early level clothing and a lot of the hair styles and body markings. That stuff is really trivial, though. Please bake this game more!
PS I won't be unhappy if I'm completely and utterly wrong and the miracle fairy patches the hell out of it!
Debug mode in some programs do add a significant amount of memory overhead, but not by much, even in enterprise systems debug mode probably takes no more than 20% of the time slice and memory allocation of the target program. What debuggers by their design do isn't to stop bugs, rather they record them, outputting what parts of the code caused the related problem. For me, the FP client is loaded with bugs, especially on issues with their database system that pop up time and time again, missing meshes, and methods not working properly. Also, if their debugger grows over time in its recording of bugs, that means there is a memory leak, since by definition a memory leak is any part of a program that will not free unused memory. This leak, I suspect, is due to their heavy use of C++ (concluded this fact from the error logs that made continuous references to .cpp (for C++ source files)), they probably didn't go through the proper management of data objects (making sure to create destructors and the like, and even memory test systems or to import BSD (or BSD-like) licensed memory management libraries). So, that really means a good chunk of the engine should have been rewritten by now, or atleast that would be anyone's hope regardless of one's dis/like for AoC.
I am in the "open" beta, and I love the game but I also have serious performance problems. I regularly fall through bridges, stairs, etc. I have to log out and back in a couple of times to get past those problems. I also crash to desktop very frequently. It is a resource hog, but perhaps that will be resolved in the release version once the various tracking elements are removed.
However, when the game is running I find it to be fun and interesting. It reminds me of Vanguard in late beta in terms of performance but not in terms of content...the content is pretty tight. I still have kept my preorder because I have seen how betas can come together in the last few weeks, and I hope that this one will too.
I have to say this game has been very disappointing. 1. Instances everywhere. You have these giants doors in the middle of the wilderness everywhere. How ridiculous. And you have 5 minute load times to get into these doors 2 . Invisible walls everywhere. You cannot just roam freely around the world like in other games. You basically have to stay on the road and thats it. 3 The "revolutionary" combat system is actually just pressing 1,2,3 over and over again. 4. very buggy and crashes all the time. A game 2 weeks from release shouldn't have this many bugs. 5 Very laggy around other people. You need a really good computer to play this game. 6 very poor skill customization. Very few skill to choose from. Can't choose your stats and such
The game has good graphics , but thats about it. It doesn't really have anything else good going for it. I know they haven't shown us the whole game, but this is the part they wanted to show us. And this part isn't very good. The only thing that could save the game is if the PVP and sieges are really good. I will have to wait and see on that. I certainly won't be buying this game now.
Well to start by looking at your post history , you seem really objective. Ill respond to a couple of your points there which particularly stand out over the others showing you either don't have the ability to grasp this game at your current stage of development or have very limited knowledge of this game.
3. While I don't think much these days is revolutionary the combat system is much more in depth then you make it out to be. You start with 1,2,3 keys and start to gain combo's as you level up and such other abilities as stances and other buffs, and then add 4 and 5 keys(if you are a melee class). So you have your 5 directions, self buffs(offensive or defensive), stances and combos while your are in combat. This is more then almost every other game out there leaving you TONS of choices in combat.
Now what is the difference if there is an arrow or a graphic of a sword with the words "ruby slash" on it? No matter what mmo you play you will still be clicking attacks, you trying to say since there is a direction on the button you are clicking it feels different or that when you play an mmo you prefer going into auto attack?
5. Yes, it crashes and stutters from time to time but not nearly as much as past MMO's ive tested, some of which have gone on to do very well.
6. Poor skill customization? You have your basic Archetype skills you get points for as you level up. You have 2 class specific feat tree's and one achetype specific feat tree and a 4th PvP feat tree.
As far as choosing starting stats...that has proven pointless in most games. By the time your character reaches the higher levels the initial few points spent don't amount to anything.
While the LotRO open beta only let you get to level 15, it was a pretty good representation of what the final gameplay experience was going to be like.
But in AOC you're still considered to be in the tutorial until level 20, and some things like crafting happen way later.
Probably going to have to wait until launch when you can get a real feel for the game to make any decisions about buying it.
(unless you are ready to just wade right in, which is fine as well)
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I'm honestly getting sick of seeing these threads and people saying its bad in BETA. Before you say anything about a game that harsh while in BETA and within a months release, you should have your mouth either stapled shut or your keyboard broken. Possibly both.
BETA is the keyword to look at for all you "jump to conclusion no time to let the game mature kthxbai going to WAR" kids. I bet WAR will have the near same reaction of people saying "OH ITS GOING TO SUCK BECAUSE ITS BETA AND THE FULL RELEASE WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME!"
I have to say this game has been very disappointing. 1. Instances everywhere. You have these giants doors in the middle of the wilderness everywhere. How ridiculous. And you have 5 minute load times to get into these doors 2 . Invisible walls everywhere. You cannot just roam freely around the world like in other games. You basically have to stay on the road and thats it. 3 The "revolutionary" combat system is actually just pressing 1,2,3 over and over again. 4. very buggy and crashes all the time. A game 2 weeks from release shouldn't have this many bugs. 5 Very laggy around other people. You need a really good computer to play this game. 6 very poor skill customization. Very few skill to choose from. Can't choose your stats and such
The game has good graphics , but thats about it. It doesn't really have anything else good going for it. I know they haven't shown us the whole game, but this is the part they wanted to show us. And this part isn't very good. The only thing that could save the game is if the PVP and sieges are really good. I will have to wait and see on that. I certainly won't be buying this game now.
Aye its really the worst MMORPG i beta played so far. Just horrible. The so called PvP is pressing 3-buttons and circle, WTF is that? Skilled PvP? Never. Its worthless PvP.
And the lag is just horrible, not to say the crashes. This game isnt finished for release as i see it.
Dont pre-order this game, you will be really disappointed if you do. Its throwing your money out the window. Dont lef Funcom rip you of your money before they actually proved there is a playable game out there.
I'm honestly getting sick of seeing these threads and people saying its bad in BETA. Before you say anything about a game that harsh while in BETA and within a months release, you should have your mouth either stapled shut or your keyboard broken. Possibly both. BETA is the keyword to look at for all you "jump to conclusion no time to let the game mature kthxbai going to WAR" kids. I bet WAR will have the near same reaction of people saying "OH ITS GOING TO SUCK BECAUSE ITS BETA AND THE FULL RELEASE WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME!"
So if we think the game Age of Conan sucks we shouldnt tell people about it? Is that what you say?
Why dont you try to get out of your hype-bubble and realize the truth about this game instead of being a stubborn fanbois that refuses to understand what other experienced? If Funcom dont have a real open beta so everyone can make a judgement on this game then i think this kind of information is very needed.
So if we think the game Age of Conan sucks we shouldnt tell people about it? Is that what you say?
Why dont you try to get out of your hype-bubble and realize the truth about this game instead of being a stubborn fanbois that refuses to understand what other experienced? If Funcom dont have a real open beta so everyone can make a judgement on this game then i think this kind of information is very needed.
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Lets put it this way. Closed beta testers have been crashing the first 13 lvls for past 5 months.
Secondly - there are not all that suffer from these crashes. But many do. The famous words of "not me" is always good to hear in a MMO game. But you know what - The guy you group up with might do....
About 75% of testers are having client crashing every 2-3 loading screens - the map turning gray and graphics start to look bad around you. What is it ?
Its called memory leak - its on high lvl in AOC and has not been fixed in the first 13 lvls of gameplay for the past months. And we are two weeks from launch
Conclution - game client is not stable for many 2 weeks from launch. It will not be so in two weeks.
Nice FutureBoy! It may be and it may not be. We will see and it will be fun! =D
this is what happens to mmorpgs when investors start wanting to see a return in profits...
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Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
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The problem is impatient investors, and every industry is plagued by them now.
One huge problem is that the investors are often not individuals, but institutions, and institutions judge their investments strictly on the numbers, and the short term numbers at that. Which is why short term low profitability that leads to long term high profitablity is ignored in favor of ROI NOW!
The videogaming industry is subject to the same investor narrow vision as anyone else. The results are painfully obvious to the customer base.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
It's tragic and cheap.
After getting done playing last night, that thing was bloated up to over 600mb. Not kidding.
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Before I say anything else.. I am FAR from an AOC fanboy.... you can check my posting history. If anything, I'm a LOTRO fanboy.
I had no intentions of playing the game at all, but when the Fileplanet beta offer came up, I decided to try it.
Overall, I was quite impressed with my beta experience last night. The game ran very well for me with very few problems. It was in much better shape than I had imagined after reading many of the posts here.
From what I've seen, it's a good quality game. I leveled a few toons... one to 7, one to 9 and another one to 8. The graphics are great, the combat is a bit different from other MMO's and I thought the animations were pretty smooth and interesting. Compare it with Vanguard? No way... nothing can ever be compared to that mess.
It's a shame, but I think the game is going to suffer from being waaaaay over-hyped. Everyone is looking for the WOW killer and the do all be all 3rd generation game... which I don't think it is. It's a step up from many current MMO's, but the WOW killer and 3rd generation game that's going to satisfy everyone looking for something new isn't going to be here for a long, long time... if ever.
Still... it's a good game and I'm actually thinking of playing it alongside with LOTRO.
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Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
It's tragic and cheap.
Yeah, but it's so damn reflexive. Some of the pro AoC posts I've seen are so gushing that a PR flak would be embarassed to present them.
People come on and, from actual play experience, express how they reacted to the game, and they're savagely attacked. Instead of "well, I guess AoC is not for you" as a response, they're personally attacked for daring not to fall in love with it from the opening screen on. The OP actually said that they were impressed at first, but as they played the game, their enthusasm faded.
Obviously, every game is not for everyone. Especially with the MMORPG crowd, who on average seem to loathe WoW with every fiber of their being just because it's done very well...and expanded the market for MMOPRGs.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Fanbois hate it when someone disses their love object.
The Fanboiitis on this game is quite severe, I'm afraid.
As is the hateboiitios eh?
Seriously, when people, and what they like, are attacked they defend, it's a natural reaction.
Hatebois come deliberatly to a certain games forums, look for a fight, then call anyone who sticks up for their own point of view a fanboi...
It's tragic and cheap.
Says the poster child for Hatebois. lol. Crossover to any other game forums lately Vesavius to pan those games and their fans? Come on, you know you want to.Good for the goose, good for the gander eh?
Oh, and btw, I have no vested interest in AoC one way or the other. I hope FC gets their act together for launch. These things are bad for our hobby in general.
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There's a nice game in there somewhere but after playing the FP open beta and keeping in mind that this game is released in under three weeks, I expect launch to be an epic fail. The cries of "it's beta!" and "there's a debugger" just don't hold water at this point. Well, they never really do, but there you go. If you hold your breath for a miracle patch, prepare to die because they just don't happen this close to release.
People with decent gaming machines are reporting stalling graphics, tedious loading times, lag... flashback to AO. There are HUGE memory leaks which Funcom seems to be blaming on the debugger, too, but I'll bet real money they're still there at release and are still the size of the Grand Canyon. They can spin it all they like, as usual, but launch day will tell the truth.
I still want the pretty box, but I have a feeling it'll be sitting on the shelf for several months while this game cooks. When it's done, I think I'll like it. I may actually turn off gore though, because it's almost silly in it's extreme. I don't need that to enjoy a game. I wish they had been a bit more realistic. I haven't seen nipples yet because I think they have them turned off. I did hear, however, that they need fixing because they poke through your clothing. How awesome is that? It made me laugh! I'm also not crazy about the early level clothing and a lot of the hair styles and body markings. That stuff is really trivial, though. Please bake this game more!
PS I won't be unhappy if I'm completely and utterly wrong and the miracle fairy patches the hell out of it!
oh really? Don't you expect a return in your investments?
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
ignore him..some people think that mmo developers are a charity
Debug mode in some programs do add a significant amount of memory overhead, but not by much, even in enterprise systems debug mode probably takes no more than 20% of the time slice and memory allocation of the target program. What debuggers by their design do isn't to stop bugs, rather they record them, outputting what parts of the code caused the related problem. For me, the FP client is loaded with bugs, especially on issues with their database system that pop up time and time again, missing meshes, and methods not working properly. Also, if their debugger grows over time in its recording of bugs, that means there is a memory leak, since by definition a memory leak is any part of a program that will not free unused memory. This leak, I suspect, is due to their heavy use of C++ (concluded this fact from the error logs that made continuous references to .cpp (for C++ source files)), they probably didn't go through the proper management of data objects (making sure to create destructors and the like, and even memory test systems or to import BSD (or BSD-like) licensed memory management libraries). So, that really means a good chunk of the engine should have been rewritten by now, or atleast that would be anyone's hope regardless of one's dis/like for AoC.
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I am in the "open" beta, and I love the game but I also have serious performance problems. I regularly fall through bridges, stairs, etc. I have to log out and back in a couple of times to get past those problems. I also crash to desktop very frequently. It is a resource hog, but perhaps that will be resolved in the release version once the various tracking elements are removed.
However, when the game is running I find it to be fun and interesting. It reminds me of Vanguard in late beta in terms of performance but not in terms of content...the content is pretty tight. I still have kept my preorder because I have seen how betas can come together in the last few weeks, and I hope that this one will too.
o go balled when i swim or where a panda
Well to start by looking at your post history , you seem really objective. Ill respond to a couple of your points there which particularly stand out over the others showing you either don't have the ability to grasp this game at your current stage of development or have very limited knowledge of this game.
3. While I don't think much these days is revolutionary the combat system is much more in depth then you make it out to be. You start with 1,2,3 keys and start to gain combo's as you level up and such other abilities as stances and other buffs, and then add 4 and 5 keys(if you are a melee class). So you have your 5 directions, self buffs(offensive or defensive), stances and combos while your are in combat. This is more then almost every other game out there leaving you TONS of choices in combat.
Now what is the difference if there is an arrow or a graphic of a sword with the words "ruby slash" on it? No matter what mmo you play you will still be clicking attacks, you trying to say since there is a direction on the button you are clicking it feels different or that when you play an mmo you prefer going into auto attack?
5. Yes, it crashes and stutters from time to time but not nearly as much as past MMO's ive tested, some of which have gone on to do very well.
6. Poor skill customization? You have your basic Archetype skills you get points for as you level up. You have 2 class specific feat tree's and one achetype specific feat tree and a 4th PvP feat tree.
As far as choosing starting stats...that has proven pointless in most games. By the time your character reaches the higher levels the initial few points spent don't amount to anything.
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While the LotRO open beta only let you get to level 15, it was a pretty good representation of what the final gameplay experience was going to be like.
But in AOC you're still considered to be in the tutorial until level 20, and some things like crafting happen way later.
Probably going to have to wait until launch when you can get a real feel for the game to make any decisions about buying it.
(unless you are ready to just wade right in, which is fine as well)
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I am not buying this game either, I will continue playing guild wars and hope i dont restart WOW until WAR comes out...
I'm honestly getting sick of seeing these threads and people saying its bad in BETA. Before you say anything about a game that harsh while in BETA and within a months release, you should have your mouth either stapled shut or your keyboard broken. Possibly both.
BETA is the keyword to look at for all you "jump to conclusion no time to let the game mature kthxbai going to WAR" kids. I bet WAR will have the near same reaction of people saying "OH ITS GOING TO SUCK BECAUSE ITS BETA AND THE FULL RELEASE WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME!"
Aye its really the worst MMORPG i beta played so far. Just horrible. The so called PvP is pressing 3-buttons and circle, WTF is that? Skilled PvP? Never. Its worthless PvP.
And the lag is just horrible, not to say the crashes. This game isnt finished for release as i see it.
Dont pre-order this game, you will be really disappointed if you do. Its throwing your money out the window. Dont lef Funcom rip you of your money before they actually proved there is a playable game out there.
So if we think the game Age of Conan sucks we shouldnt tell people about it? Is that what you say?
Why dont you try to get out of your hype-bubble and realize the truth about this game instead of being a stubborn fanbois that refuses to understand what other experienced? If Funcom dont have a real open beta so everyone can make a judgement on this game then i think this kind of information is very needed.
So if we think the game Age of Conan sucks we shouldnt tell people about it? Is that what you say?
Why dont you try to get out of your hype-bubble and realize the truth about this game instead of being a stubborn fanbois that refuses to understand what other experienced? If Funcom dont have a real open beta so everyone can make a judgement on this game then i think this kind of information is very needed.
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