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Originally posted by Black_Elvis As you can plainly see by the 3 pages of people basicly telling you to back off on the edits or your site risks loosing credibility.
What I think that some people are failing to see, is that it is the community (yes, your fellow posters) that report the posts that are being edited and resulting in the bans that people are receiving. So a couple of posts in a thread buried in the Suggestions Forum (sorry, couldn't resist) are hardly representative of the six hundred and eighty-something members of the site as a whole, seeing that it is the rest of those people that are reporting you.
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Originally posted by jsw40 Originally posted by Mrbloodworth Criticism - The Definition.
you and he would be wrong then.
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Not enough, imo. Not nearly enough.
Yes, I have had some post deleted, and recieved a ban once. Still, though, there are far too many garbage threads and flame wars here. It doesn't need to be VN's twin brother.
Originally posted by megaflux it didn't get nasty till the stupid lotro ad's appeared, ever since then they whack any post that is the least bit negative/offensive. as far as im concerned they lost 50% of all cred they had by even using the lotro ad's.they really aren't functioning as forums if people cant exchange ideas and have an equal say, may as well change the url to "mmorpghype.com" at the rate things are going. i dont even see whats wrong with crude language honestly, i could see if it was n*bomb this and mother F* that, but to simply say crap is NOT that offensive (ok maybe to the people who are hyping TR to save their lives), would using the word feces make it more acceptable? poo poo perhaps? there just arent that many ways to say crap without actually saying it (tho im thinking "garriott" might make a nice substitution from now on).as long as it isn't outright slanderous or racist i dont see why ANY post should be deleted or edited. if the server is based in the USA it should follow all laws thereof, if they want to run it like communist china maybe they should relocate, ofcourse i feel that about all game servers as well.fact is this place is a buisness, and we can always vote with our dollars (no really game companies aren't down to pay for ad's on sites that get like 7 hits a day) . cant expect them to act un-biased, we dont pay them the game companies do.
I would also like to point out that our rules have zero to do with US or other laws. This is not a public space - this is a private place, similar to a night club, restaurant, shopping mall, etc. You leave your right to free speech at the front door, much as I would if I was a guest in your home. We have rules as to how to conduct yourself here and you must follow them - or go someplace else.
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This site is a private site, the people that run it can do whatever they want. Deal with it.
To the op:Well unfortunately, there is worse forum then this. And there is better. that depend on the type of community on the forum as well. You should take this site as a site dedicate to a game owned by a private company. There is a maximum you ca say there and after you cross the line well you become a big red target for the mods and you are carefully watch so you do not cross that line too often. And once you do too much well you get the consequence of not respecting their rules.
And as my opinion on this, I think they are still going too easy on certain parts. Although they tend to do a good job as well and can't monitor everything going on (way too much people around). They are still human and human are not perfect so mistake can happen and well we all had our bad days so I'm pretty sure they do as well and tend to be a bit more strict on those days.
You just need to respect the rules and nothing bad will happen to your post.
It's called being overly sensative, anal retentive, politcally correct.
all of the above.
If you want to post on a site that is unmoderated, go somewhere else. Otherwise, suck it up.
I was banned for posting "Not an MMO" in a certain forum category. That is all I posted, and was banned. This is what happens when forum moderators do not know how to think critically and logically. Also respecting what others post (as long as it is civil) doesnt seem to be a trait the moderators have either. I think what it really boils down to is a power trip for moderators unfortunately.
Its ok though. There are many other forums to discuss MMO's so I am not worried in the least.
Originally posted by Black_Elvis Originally posted by Stradden Originally posted by Black_Elvis Originally posted by Woopin Not to be funny here but you also posted this in the wrong forum This is for MMORPG Games dicussion this post belongs in the Off-Topic forums :P
You and I both know the Off-topic forums are like the unpopular table in the highschool lunchroom. Everyone knows it's there but no one gives a damn.
Our rules exist for a reason. If you can't follow them, that's your bag. If you feel that a warning or a ban came aginst you unfairly, you can contact our Community Manager at [email protected] We have procedures in place that would lead to a much speedier resolution if you follow them rather than creating a thread in the wrong forum to voice your displeasure.
Yeah but creating a thread accomplishes much, much more. As you can plainly see by the 3 pages of people basicly telling you to back off on the edits or your site risks loosing credibility.
Its your site, you do WTF you want to. But all I'm saying is that the emperor isn't wearing clothes.... now people are starting to agree.
Edit: kudos on burying this in the site suggestion section. I'm sure it will get a ton of views.
Point of order....the score so far is 10 posters upset with the moderation...and 15 in favor of it (12 if we remove the site employees)
Considering those in favor tend to be moderated on a regular basis....their motivation and viewpoint is understandable..... however I'd say a greater percentage of posters feel the moderation levels are just fine.
BTW....no worries about your thread being moved to the suggestion thread , I almost never scan any forums..all my posting topics come off the front page of the web site.....
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Originally posted by Nochoices Let me state my negative opinion! GLADLY! We love input on games, and we encourage you to share your experiences, whether negative or positive. Here's the catch: don't share it on every thread. If you got banned from a game, had a bad experience with their customer support, hat e the gameplay, etc. please tell us about it in one thread. There's no need to respond to every thread relating to that game telling us about the issue; this makes it very hard for other users to share their opinions and experiences.
So people with positive opinions but false can spam every thread with their lies ? your rules do not make ANY sense, and are open to multiple exploits and workarounds. Why cant i reply in every thread if there is lies needing to be enlightened in every thread ? It makes it very hard to share opinions when your drowning in lies, positive or negative, this WHOLE rule is subject to major exploitation and it is already on the go, i see multiple lies being posted each day, so i cant reply to them because they are positive lies ?
This reminds me on ignore propaganda, why can someone say 'everyone should ignore xxxx' , wich is clearly, hate and ignore propaganda , while i cant say the word Carebear , without getting banned 14 days.
Really thanks to the OP for making this, they sent it to a sub section pretty fast, and i will probably get moderated, deleted, like most of this site. It's a shame that people cant handle the truth , mods included.
"Positive" spam is still spam; the list I posted was not the entire Rules of Conduct, but a quick list of suggestions to keep you off the ban list. I would also suggest against creating multiple accounts to spam the site, it doesn't shorten your ban
"Everyone should ignore xxx" is considered flaming; please report any posts that say this and we'll take care of 'em.
This thread was moved to the Site Suggestions forum because, well, that's where it belongs. I don't consider this a lower profile area; don't most of us use the "recent forum posts" button to browse, anyway?
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Originally posted by Kyleran Point of order....the score so far is 10 posters upset with the moderation...and 15 in favor of it (12 if we remove the site employees) Considering those in favor tend to be moderated on a regular basis....their motivation and viewpoint is understandable..... however I'd say a greater percentage of posters feel the moderation levels are just fine.BTW....no worries about your thread being moved to the suggestion thread , I almost never scan any forums..all my posting topics come off the front page of the web site.....
Are the mods. human and bound to make a mistake here and there with an edit or deletion, or perhaps even a ban from time to time? Probably so. I know I make a mistake or two from time to time at my job as well.
That's why there is an appeal process available. If that process does not give you satisfaction you're left with two choices.
1)Change your posting habits.
2) Find another site to post on.
It's not exactly a life-changing proposition either way, so relax.