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lil problem with explorer

any help ?

My desk top is having a bit of a problem. everytime I try to close explorer it pops up with the "having  a proble clsing internet explorer, send error report". WTF! I'm also having problems downloading game patches for supremem commander.

Thanks (running Norton anti everything)

I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359

    This will fix the problem right away. Just download and install.

    www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356

    Internet Explorer is the worst browser you can possibly use. Some high schools and college campuses are even starting to ban its use on their in-house computers.

    Mozilla is a great browser but there are at least a dozen other browsers that are also fairly good. Use one of them. . . if you like your computer at all that is.

    Eternally mine,
    Keebs


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    The MMO gaming blog I write for.

  • RenithRenith Member Posts: 145

    Heh.. i had that too yesterday but that was a trojan horse.. fortunatly my virus scanner detected it quite easily.

  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646

    Firefox or Opera. Using IE these days is just plain stupid.

    Regarding your problem. Not much I can help you with here sorry.

  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486


    Originally posted by Dekron
    This will fix the problem right away. Just download and install. image
    www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

    Don't forget all the wonderful addons, otherwise I'll second that.

    image

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    I agree with all of the posters above but will also add that you should dump Norton as it is crap. My best advise would be to download and install AVG Anti-virus and do a scan right away as you probably have viruses Norton has missed. Also use Microsoft's Windows Defender as a resident Spy-ware detector and also get something like Ad-Aware to do periodic scans with as Defender does miss stuff on occasion.

     

    Bren

    while(horse==dead)
    {
    beat();
    }

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Internet explorer can be effective for viewing many sites as they should be seen, no messed up indexes, no odd cell growth, faster image downloading, the list can on.

    It also can be good if you are not a clueless moron and know how to set up your security.

    It can also murder the $^%$#@^ out of you if you are clearly stupid and download or allow active X "LOLURHAXXED" plugin to install while watching your porn or downloading  the next poppy ass kid song.

     

    Lets not make Mozilla (my preferred browser btw) as being jesus christ incarnated in the form of well... a browser.

    Mozilla has many security holes as well, and as a matter of fact due to it's popularity it is becoming a target  for  hijacking, malware, and trojan insertion.

     

    Each browser has it's benefits and it's flaws, none at this point are better than the next thanks to our favorite providers of spyware.

    Then again this could turn into a debate on linux versus windows and how much windows sucks or whatever.

    -as seen on sourceforge!-

  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646

    IE is not to view sites as they should be seen. Or well it is true in one way. IE is for viewing sites that are fucked up and made with some non standard IE code. Opera. Firefox, Safari etc all render the sites according to the webstandards. IE doesn't. So some sites only work on IE because the developer of the site had to do some weird shit to reach out to 50% of his audience that uses IE.

     

    So by using IE your supporting messed up web coding.

    And if you really need to view sites with this messed up code, download a plugin for Firefox and it will let you view it in a "IE tab".

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by Phoenixs


    IE is not to view sites as they should be seen. Or well it is true in one way. IE is for viewing sites that are fucked up and made with some non standard IE code. Opera. Firefox, Safari etc all render the sites according to the webstandards. IE doesn't. So some sites only work on IE because the developer of the site had to do some weird shit to reach out to 50% of his audience that uses IE.
     
    So by using IE your supporting messed up web coding.
    And if you really need to view sites with this messed up code, download a plugin for Firefox and it will let you view it in a "IE tab".

    Yet most professional design standards comes from Front Page cell and table structure.

    Secondly is good ole ultra edit plus, that is if you like to do stuff old school.

     

    I use IE for what I need to and get off it generally, as a matter of fact I am using firefox right now as I type but I am not so foolish as to claim them as being the best.

    Opera is worse than IE, WAY worse. You may not see the malware installed but it's easy to bypass opera.

    Back in a former company I worked for we targetted Opera users with a specific cookie set that basically gave us free reign over the statistics. Brutal.

     

    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.

     

    As I pretty much implied , Firefox is no where near as safe as you think it is. It has multiple loop holes that can easily be cracked, it's just a matter of motivation.

    Every browser has it's plus and weaknesses it's just a matter of being non biased and such.

    Besides IE loads  faster you have to give it that  Mozilla tends to have less pop ups but if you aren't using a popup blocker by now anyways you are bees knees retarded. Mozilla has a great security feature but once again if you don't already have your system locked down while on the net then you are deserving of getting your crap canned.

    IE is bad for those who can't secure their stuff. Or have a lack of resources for security. Amusingly enough those who don't have any of that stuff tend to be the ones to use IE.

    Mozilla firefox is bad if under the right conditions, it also reads iFrames rather silly.. But thats no a general problem as most iFrame code is for creatives  and most people don't even give a damn about banners.

    Opera is a lol in security. Anyone who thinks IE is bad...hell opera is worse simply because they left holes all over the place.

    Many open source browsers are great, many are professional grade. However many were started ground floor as a novice project and the developers get better with time keep the project going forgetting about the holes in their "novice" code.

    Atleast in some respects anyone with common sense and a good understanding of how malware infects (user fault most of the time) any browser is good.

     

    Bottom line from me: Mozilla isn't the jebus of Browsers , it's a very good standard browser.

     

     

     

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

    Bren

    while(horse==dead)
    {
    beat();
    }

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

     

    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

     

    Bren

    frequently associated with the trend of endorsing a set of standardized.

     

     

    Nowhere does it say enforcing.  No project I've been a part of have gone off to state..

    "Hey wait woah there...thats against standards YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO NON-STANDARDS!"

    It's asinine at best to think those "Standards" apply to everyone. The only people who truely care about that crap are looking to try and win a webby or whatever new little gif certificate they can toss at the bottom of their site.

    Whats really asinine (yes I like that word because it's completely uncalled for in this instance) is referring people to the wiki. I can just modify the text to say "Bren's a tard" if I wanted.

  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646

    Frontpage, table and cell's. Haha. That is ancient. Tables are very limited.

    Xhtml, css and div's. That is how a good standard compliant website is made now a days. And all of it done in notepad would be best.

    w3.org

    http://www.webstandards.org

    http://www.csszengarden.com/

    Check out those links. And here you can check your browser to how good they handle standards:

    Test

    I think only Opera passes that test fully.

    By developing by these standards you are making sure that your site works on all browser. Makes life better for everyone.

     

    Regarding security. You may be right. I'm no expert on that field. But IE isn't the safest one out there that is for sure. I would hold my hand on FF. Specially since you can download addons that will let you control things down to the lowest level.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

     

    Bren

    frequently associated with the trend of endorsing a set of standardized.

     

     

    Nowhere does it say enforcing.  No project I've been a part of have gone off to state..

    "Hey wait woah there...thats against standards YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO NON-STANDARDS!"

    It's asinine at best to think those "Standards" apply to everyone. The only people who truely care about that crap are looking to try and win a webby or whatever new little gif certificate they can toss at the bottom of their site.

    Whats really asinine (yes I like that word because it's completely uncalled for in this instance) is referring people to the wiki. I can just modify the text to say "Bren's a tard" if I wanted.

    They are the standards and personally attacking me doesn't change that fact. I could go on but this topic has gotten far enough off course already.

     

    Bren

    while(horse==dead)
    {
    beat();
    }

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by Phoenixs


    Frontpage, table and cell's. Haha. That is ancient. Tables are very limited.
    Xhtml, css and div's. That is how a good standard compliant website is made now a days. And all of it done in notepad would be best.
    w3.org
    http://www.webstandards.org
    http://www.csszengarden.com/
    Check out those links. And here you can check your browser to how good they handle standards:
    Test
    I think only Opera passes that test fully.
    By developing by these standards you are making sure that your site works on all browser. Makes life better for everyone.
     
    Regarding security. You may be right. I'm no expert on that field. But IE isn't the safest one out there that is for sure. I would hold my hand on FF. Specially since you can download addons that will let you control things down to the lowest level.

    Ancient is about the exact word for it, yet they are still used consistantly to this day.

    Edit plus is much like note pad mate except you have access to alot more than you normally would suck as direct uploads from the client as well as multiple formats of code able to be used and constructed using it.

    What I meant by no webstandards is. A standard is generally enforced, you can't enforce this stuff. So it's not a standard so much as a thought on how one should build a site.

    A suggestion for optimization.

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

     

    Bren

    frequently associated with the trend of endorsing a set of standardized.

     

     

    Nowhere does it say enforcing.  No project I've been a part of have gone off to state..

    "Hey wait woah there...thats against standards YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO NON-STANDARDS!"

    It's asinine at best to think those "Standards" apply to everyone. The only people who truely care about that crap are looking to try and win a webby or whatever new little gif certificate they can toss at the bottom of their site.

    Whats really asinine (yes I like that word because it's completely uncalled for in this instance) is referring people to the wiki. I can just modify the text to say "Bren's a tard" if I wanted.

    They are the standards and personally attacking me doesn't change that fact. I could go on but this topic has gotten far enough off course already.

     

     

    Bren

    I didn't attack you .I just gave an example of what could be done, and how silly it is to point the wiki as a source of fact on anything.

    If you took that as an attack let me change it for you "Bren is super keen" could of been in place of "Web standards".

    Once again in obvious context I was stating that one can simply alter the damn wiki to however they please. Do not use it as a factual source.

    Besides kiddo' you essentially attacked me so don't play victim.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

     

    Bren

    frequently associated with the trend of endorsing a set of standardized.

     

     

    Nowhere does it say enforcing.  No project I've been a part of have gone off to state..

    "Hey wait woah there...thats against standards YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO NON-STANDARDS!"

    It's asinine at best to think those "Standards" apply to everyone. The only people who truely care about that crap are looking to try and win a webby or whatever new little gif certificate they can toss at the bottom of their site.

    Whats really asinine (yes I like that word because it's completely uncalled for in this instance) is referring people to the wiki. I can just modify the text to say "Bren's a tard" if I wanted.

    They are the standards and personally attacking me doesn't change that fact. I could go on but this topic has gotten far enough off course already.

     

     

    Bren

    I didn't attack you .I just gave an example of what could be done, and how silly it is to point the wiki as a source of fact on anything.

     

    If you took that as an attack let me change it for you "Bren is super keen" could of been in place of "Web standards".

    Once again in obvious context I was stating that one can simply alter the damn wiki to however they please. Do not use it as a factual source.

    Besides kiddo' you essentially attacked me so don't play victim.

    No because I said the statement was asinine, not you personally. Also Wikipedia is moderated and even though you can make changes if they are false or fabricated they usually don't last to long. Try and go make the change you suggest and see how long it will last there before the mods change it. I'd bet money it wouldn't last a day. Enough said as I'm sure anyone who knows anything about the Web and the internet knows who's right in this argument anyways so there is no point in continuing it for me.

     

    Bren

    while(horse==dead)
    {
    beat();
    }

  • WantsumBierWantsumBier Member Posts: 1,079

    Thanks for the input all. I did not realize I was soooo outa wack.

    I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Astropuyo  
    There are no web standards if there were we'd all have the same set configured and those craptasic site designs we see would be "against the standards". The net is pretty much free reign.


    Here is a whole page about Web Standards......notice how bastardized Microsoft IE code isn't among them anywhere? Just because Microsoft decided they could rewrite HTML into anything they wanted doesn't make it right or standard. It was specifically designed for the purpose of getting a monopoly on the browser market. I'm not saying Firefox is the greatest browser either(I do believe it to be a cut above most) but to state that there are no Web Standards is just asinine at best.

     

     

    Bren

    frequently associated with the trend of endorsing a set of standardized.

     

     

    Nowhere does it say enforcing.  No project I've been a part of have gone off to state..

    "Hey wait woah there...thats against standards YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO NON-STANDARDS!"

    It's asinine at best to think those "Standards" apply to everyone. The only people who truely care about that crap are looking to try and win a webby or whatever new little gif certificate they can toss at the bottom of their site.

    Whats really asinine (yes I like that word because it's completely uncalled for in this instance) is referring people to the wiki. I can just modify the text to say "Bren's a tard" if I wanted.

    They are the standards and personally attacking me doesn't change that fact. I could go on but this topic has gotten far enough off course already.

     

     

    Bren

    I didn't attack you .I just gave an example of what could be done, and how silly it is to point the wiki as a source of fact on anything.

     

    If you took that as an attack let me change it for you "Bren is super keen" could of been in place of "Web standards".

    Once again in obvious context I was stating that one can simply alter the damn wiki to however they please. Do not use it as a factual source.

    Besides kiddo' you essentially attacked me so don't play victim.

    No because I said the statement was asinine, not you personally. Also Wikipedia is moderated and even though you can make changes if they are false or fabricated they usually don't last to long. Try and go make the change you suggest and see how long it will last there before the mods change it. I'd bet money it wouldn't last a day. Enough said as I'm sure anyone who knows anything about the Web and the internet knows who's right in this argument anyways so there is no point in continuing it for me.

     

     

    Bren

    Oi' Coi.

    Come on' thats as good as calling the person who said it thus.

    My article on interpol being connected to Belgium's cheese wheel drug industry lasted 4 months on the wiki. Moderated my ass.

  • WantsumBierWantsumBier Member Posts: 1,079

    I just downloaded firefox, now whats up with the plug ins? whats good whats bad and where do I get them ?

    Thanks

    I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646

    http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/customize/

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/recommended

    AdBlock Plus, Greasemonkey, Foxytunes, Foxmarks etc are some addons I use.

  • WantsumBierWantsumBier Member Posts: 1,079

    Cool thanks

    I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.

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