I think your use of the words "hardcore" and "carebear", dividing everyone ..... To me, AoC is not as PvP driven as a game like DAOC or Warhammer Online is for eksempel.
A) DAoC/Shadowbane Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun. B)WoW/Guildwars Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies. ...the best?
if you picked A, AoC is for you, if you picked B, WAR is for you.
The end.
The "perfect" MMO would have to be equipped with Dark Age of Camelot's Realm vs Realm (RVR) concept though. Best PvP system out there. Warhammer Online is supposed to have that; being produced by Mythic (DAoC), I would expect it to have it.
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
If I may ask: Which one of the two games caters more to the hardcore pvp scene ? Or in other words: Which game comes closest to: death penalty, losing stuff when you die, open pvp, player skill is a factor ?
Age of Conan will have free for all servers, you currently drop blood money when you die, but they are looking into and leaning toward making items lootable. Skill will be a factor in each game depending on you look at the word skill. In Age of Conan it will be knowing when to perform a combo, when to break a combo and start a new one, you actually have to aim at your target as there is no auto attack. In WAR the skill could easily be looked at as choosing which special move it best in a certain situation. Neither game has a real harsh death penalty though. Respawn at certain point and in AoC there is a shot we may lose items.
Everything that's being done in the "next gen" MMOs has already been done, usually much, much better, in multiplayer and single-player games. Here are the correct games that you should play according to the OP's criteria...
A) DAoC/Shadowbane
Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun.
If this is your bag then you should probably be looking forward to Savage 2 or playing the single-player Mount & Blade. Both feature large scale combat and require just the right combination of strategy and twitch. AoC looks dull by comparison.
WoW/Guildwars
Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies.
My first question is why wouldn't you just play Guild Wars and call it day? If you're bored with it however, there's always Dawnspire and the DoTA Allstars mod for Warcraft 3.
I don't see the point in rushing to buy an MMO at launch unless it can deliver gameplay that is, at the very least, as engaging as single-player and multiplayer games. My advice is to not buy either of these games until you've played a free trial. Not that there won't be some morons that will buy at launch, play for 40 hours a week and then piss and moan about how bored they are after the first month. <sigh>
Don't buy anything that you haven't already played and decided that you like. It's really that simple.
Everything that's being done in the "next gen" MMOs has already been done, usually much, much better, in multiplayer and single-player games. Here are the correct games that you should play according to the OP's criteria... A) DAoC/Shadowbane Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun. If this is your bag then you should probably be looking forward to Savage 2 or playing the single-player Mount & Blade. Both feature large scale combat and require just the right combination of strategy and twitch. AoC looks dull by comparison.
Heh, now that is both extremely funny and ironic. AoC's combat system was heavily inspired by Mount & Blade, and is in fact a significant;y more advanced version of the system in place there.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
OMG you ppl still care about trivial things. Everyone knows who won and who lost, this is obvious.
Ppl which like AoC trying to compare WAR to AoC, pointless. Obviously these games have different scales, usually WAR compared to WoW and looks like this is the only game WAR can be compared to because of scale.
AoC should be compaded to Aion or Chronicles of Spellborn, those ones have the same scale as AoC.
Don't think wrong of me, I'm not trying to say AoC going to be a crap game or something. I hope this game will be fine as long as it's fun.
It's just the same as comparing McDonalds and some guy who sells hotdogs on the street.
Just quit comparing these games.
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A) DAoC/Shadowbane Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun. B)WoW/Guildwars Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies. ...the best?
if you picked A, AoC is for you, if you picked B, WAR is for you.
A) DAoC/Shadowbane Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun. B)WoW/Guildwars Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies. ...the best?
if you picked A, AoC is for you, if you picked B, WAR is for you.
You simply have to love the amount of self proclaimed 'I know it all' smartasses on these forums. Sad people that try to sound smart on the internet.
Only thing you can do is try em both once they arrive. All the speculating is nonsense because noone knows how both games will be once they have been out for a couple of months.
You simply have to love the amount of self proclaimed 'I know it all' smartasses on these forums. Sad people that try to sound smart on the internet.
Only thing you can do is try em both once they arrive. All the speculating is nonsense because noone knows how both games will be once they have been out for a couple of months.
Exactly what I was thinking when I just decided to say 'I like Cake.'
Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
If they both turn out to be awesome games in their own right, will the universe implode? I'm sorry if the mere revelation that two competing games can both rock has caused fits and dribbling in some of the people who frequent these threads....
/Golfclap
Best Post in this thread both of these games have the potential to either be huge hits or complete flops.
I for one hope both become huge hits. Anything beats the tired WOW vs XXX threads.
This should give a good vieuw towards the clueless, but i would like to note that this played by players who just got into the game so there way of playing ain't to hightech.
A) DAoC/Shadowbane Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun. B)WoW/Guildwars Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies. ...the best?
if you picked A, AoC is for you, if you picked B, WAR is for you.
The end.
God this description is so far from the truth, you my friend are clueless.
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69 normal servers of which 1 is full and 14 are high pop
120 pvp servers of which 2 are locked (lol), 14 full and 14 high pop
this would seem to indicate ppl actually want more "pvp when the time arises" (as stated above) then some think
If I may ask:
Which one of the two games caters more to the hardcore pvp scene ?
Or in other words: Which game comes closest to: death penalty, losing stuff when you die, open pvp, player skill is a factor ?
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I think your use of the words "hardcore" and "carebear", dividing everyone ..... To me, AoC is not as PvP driven as a game like DAOC or Warhammer Online is for eksempel.
The "perfect" MMO would have to be equipped with Dark Age of Camelot's Realm vs Realm (RVR) concept though. Best PvP system out there. Warhammer Online is supposed to have that; being produced by Mythic (DAoC), I would expect it to have it.
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
Age of Conan will have free for all servers, you currently drop blood money when you die, but they are looking into and leaning toward making items lootable. Skill will be a factor in each game depending on you look at the word skill. In Age of Conan it will be knowing when to perform a combo, when to break a combo and start a new one, you actually have to aim at your target as there is no auto attack. In WAR the skill could easily be looked at as choosing which special move it best in a certain situation. Neither game has a real harsh death penalty though. Respawn at certain point and in AoC there is a shot we may lose items.
Everything that's being done in the "next gen" MMOs has already been done, usually much, much better, in multiplayer and single-player games. Here are the correct games that you should play according to the OP's criteria...
A) DAoC/Shadowbane
Large open combat areas, massive keep warfare with dynamic pvp. Alot of large scale pvp to happen, meaning lag, lag, crashing, but fun.
If this is your bag then you should probably be looking forward to Savage 2 or playing the single-player Mount & Blade. Both feature large scale combat and require just the right combination of strategy and twitch. AoC looks dull by comparison.
Relies on instances for PvP with little to no large scale PvP happening. Meaning a little lag but pvp always in same areas with fixed amount of enemies/allies.
My first question is why wouldn't you just play Guild Wars and call it day? If you're bored with it however, there's always Dawnspire and the DoTA Allstars mod for Warcraft 3.
I don't see the point in rushing to buy an MMO at launch unless it can deliver gameplay that is, at the very least, as engaging as single-player and multiplayer games. My advice is to not buy either of these games until you've played a free trial. Not that there won't be some morons that will buy at launch, play for 40 hours a week and then piss and moan about how bored they are after the first month. <sigh>
Don't buy anything that you haven't already played and decided that you like. It's really that simple.
Heh, now that is both extremely funny and ironic. AoC's combat system was heavily inspired by Mount & Blade, and is in fact a significant;y more advanced version of the system in place there.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
OMG you ppl still care about trivial things. Everyone knows who won and who lost, this is obvious.
Ppl which like AoC trying to compare WAR to AoC, pointless. Obviously these games have different scales, usually WAR compared to WoW and looks like this is the only game WAR can be compared to because of scale.
AoC should be compaded to Aion or Chronicles of Spellborn, those ones have the same scale as AoC.
Don't think wrong of me, I'm not trying to say AoC going to be a crap game or something. I hope this game will be fine as long as it's fun.
It's just the same as comparing McDonalds and some guy who sells hotdogs on the street.
Just quit comparing these games.
______________________________________
You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
One milk get's sour it makes cheese.
Got Milk?
i don't care what "style" is best for me personally i still gonna try both hehe
at least i'll get a gigggle somewhere out of them
"waddle Waddle"
Gosh, an 8 month NECRO!!!
haha, Kishe. You make me laugh. Fixed
Solution A (Daoc) = Warhammer Online
Solution B (WoW + GW) = Age of Conan
I like AC1
I'm sorry, but you couldn't have been more mis-informed. Try again.
I like cake.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
Since I have finally heard some good stuff about AoC, maybe it wont be the failure I expected it to be.
Still, I cant help but wonder: theres so many MMOs coming soon, why is everybody talking about AoC ?!?
You simply have to love the amount of self proclaimed 'I know it all' smartasses on these forums. Sad people that try to sound smart on the internet.
Only thing you can do is try em both once they arrive. All the speculating is nonsense because noone knows how both games will be once they have been out for a couple of months.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
Best Post in this thread both of these games have the potential to either be huge hits or complete flops.
I for one hope both become huge hits. Anything beats the tired WOW vs XXX threads.
Dutchess Zarraa Voltayre
Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.
your a noob.
there are two types of pvp, FFA and faction based.
wow, war and daoc are faction based.
aoc is FFA.
learn2play.
My blog:
Aion > AoC > WAR ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG78qwcTBbo
http://vimeo.com/927347
This should give a good vieuw towards the clueless, but i would like to note that this played by players who just got into the game so there way of playing ain't to hightech.
Good think they aren't coming out at the same time, so we can try them both.
God this description is so far from the truth, you my friend are clueless.