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spherosspheros Member Posts: 2
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i was just wondering if there are rally players who sell their high level characters and where can one find them....is it legal or ellegal? just askingimage

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    Yes there are really players who sell off their characters. But.. Dude dont do that.. Your taking all the fun out of the game.. You dont have fun if you can kill everything the very second you start... The fun comes when you Battle an equal foe and it comes down to the Last second when you just manage to get the spell off or just get int that Criticle hit...

    you'll probably find that on Ebay tho'.. and It isn't illegal.. but it should be

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  • ramadinramadin Member Posts: 1,304

    High level characters for what game?  I sold 2 EQ accounts for over 1500 dollars awhile back.  So yes people do it, why people buy them though is beyond me.

     

     

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  • GnarledGnarled Member Posts: 566

    Because they have more money than time and want to experience the end-game ?

    And it isn't illegal. Just unpopular. . .

     

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  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786
     Selling virtual characters is cool. Although buying them, now that's a different story. If i bought a virtual character i'd have to kick my own ass. image

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  • wystanwystan Member Posts: 68

    ive seen it happen on daoc and swg after the accounts are sold i never see the ppl on again

    who knows what ppl do with themimage

  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106

    The truth of the matter is its illegal unless the seller uses the right terms. You cant say you're selling the account. You have to say that your "trading" the time you spent on the character in exchange for a certain amount of money, and all game items and characters belong to *blank* company etc.

    Love selling accounts. Its easy cash. And you have fun in the process.

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  • GnarledGnarled Member Posts: 566
     It is not illegal. It is against the EULA of virtually every game out there, but it does not contravene any legislation that I am aware of. There is a big difference. The terms used in the advertisement are irrelevant, except perhaps for the interim period when E-bay was still allowing it. It's semantics.


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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106


    Originally posted by Gnarled
     It is not illegal. It is against the EULA of virtually every game out there, but it does not contravene any legislation that I am aware of. There is a big difference. The terms used in the advertisement are irrelevant, except perhaps for the interim period when E-bay was still allowing it. It's semantics.

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    No. It says you cannot sell their products. And you're just renting the game service from them. You can trade your time spent, in exchange for money. You arent selling the character. You are trading your time in exchange for money.

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  • GnarledGnarled Member Posts: 566
    That is called semantics. You are selling the account, this is against the EULA. You cannot waive your way out of it by calling it something else.

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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106

    Doesnt matter if its legalities, semantics or what. It would be legal putting it that way.

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  • ramadinramadin Member Posts: 1,304

    It is not illegal, that would imply that you would be charged with a crime if you sold an account.  Its just against the EULA, the worst that would happen is they ban your account.

     

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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106


    Originally posted by ramadin

    It is not illegal, that would imply that you would be charged with a crime if you sold an account.  Its just against the EULA, the worst that would happen is they ban your account.
     

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    Selling property which is not your own but belongs to the company is against the EULA....Ya see what I'm saying?

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  • ramadinramadin Member Posts: 1,304

    No I dont.  I know its against the EULA, but its not a crime.  Are people telling me theres guys in prison and when someone asked them what they are in for they say "I sold my Everquest account."?  I have looked online about this subject before, and never could I find one instance of a lawsuit or criminal charges stemming from this type of breach.  I dont think one can enforce bits of data (IE: 0's and 1's) as property, how could you admiss it as evidence in court?  You could bring in a hard drive... but no one sold a hard drive.  You can put anything you want in a EULA, that doesnt mean you can enforce it.

     

     


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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106
    no no no. What i'm saying is. If you have the trickiness and slyness of an lawyer. You can even by-pass the EULA without breaking it.

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    This discussiong is going into ownership rights... Well I should inform you, Characters are not you're property.. but any items, money, land, any other material things in the game being play ARE your property for instance.. GM's from a game have the right to destroy your character at anytime for a number of reasons  (which just happens to destroy any items on your person at the time.. BUT if you have items stored else where or money.. they cannot destroy it....

    Also The U.S. army has Bought yes Bought numerous acres in the Game  "Th3re" for VR training................Yes they Bought it!!!

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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106
    My point exactly. When you phrase it as actually not selling the account but something entirely different. Its not against the Eula!

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