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I didnt say EQ pvp was balanced. I said EQ pvp allowed for more variability, and it had meaning. Stop trying to make arguments out of things that Im not arguing.
In WoW you get to have your little clone character who is the same as 1000 other people. And you get to fight over things that are meaningless. If you compare that to any real MMORPG you will see where WoW stacks up.
It's just a game. You know, for fun.
I'm sure every activity you participate in is of the highest intelectual calibre. It's not meant for simple gamers?.. all games out there are simple. EVE - simple, CoH/CoV - simple, LOTRO - simple, EQ/EQ2 - simple, Ryzom - simple, Planetside - simple, Lineage2 - simple, D&D - simple, etc.
The only online world I've found to require any skill to contribute to is Second Life, and I can't stand it. If you think any of these games featured on this site require serious smarts to play you must have quite the limited perspective.
I thought Wow was a good game. One thing I didn't like though was you don't see really cool dungeons until after lvl 40. In new MMORPGs you start rocking out at lvl 10. Also rep grinding has become ridiculous. But overall its proll the most fun MMORPG I have ever played.
Lol...and still people play it. It doesnt show any sign of weakening either, rather the opposite. People flock to it like flies to shit
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Yeah you do, just smaller. Stockades, RFC, WC, VC, Gnomer, SFK, RFD (or is RFK the 30's one? been a while), some SM.
The coolness was subjective. I always liked RFC with new chars, VC was fun, didn't like Gnomer though, but that's just me.
Those levels are quick anyway and I usually miss those just by levelling past them before I know it.
No matter how you shake it WOW is still the best thing out there right now, which sucks arse
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No, it's fine.
The only people who are pished are those that found something else they prefer and think everyone should come join them. The game-flaming that comes out of that popluace-envy is just sad. Too much QQ IMO.
No, it's fine.
The only people who are pished are those that found something else they prefer and think everyone should come join them. The game-flaming that comes out of that popluace-envy is just sad. Too much QQ IMO.
Well, when I say that it sucks arse, I mean theres nothing for me to play! I've done WOW too much and am bored of it. It's funny though how many people will flame a game they've played for years just because they are bored.. I simply want something new myself.
I mean come on it has its good qualities since probably everyone here has played it for a good amount of time!
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Why is Lousy because it wasnt designed for the UBzor l331zor Hardcorezor MMO players like yourself...
i am pointing out your flawed logic, weather you are trying to argue that eq is balanced or not it besides the point i am making. you are using eq pvp as an example of a good pvp system and i am sitting here laughing as i read your posts.
you disagree when i say eq pvp had absolutely no meaning? i would love to see you elaborate on that. you can do the same shit in wow open pvp on the pvp servers as you could on the eq pvp servers. what meaning is there? there is none, other than having fun competing against other players witch wow has as well in the arenas and open pvp.
i don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying about wow, but as far as your argument about eq pvp, it was and always will be patched in garbage and is not a good example of what good pvp should be IMO. i am not saying wow is, but certain aspects of wow's pvp is sure as hell a lot better than eq's pvp ever was.
No, it's fine.
The only people who are pished are those that found something else they prefer and think everyone should come join them. The game-flaming that comes out of that popluace-envy is just sad. Too much QQ IMO.
yes some people do that but a lot of people play wow (like myself) because there is nothing els worth wild or all their friends play it. yeah wow isnt as bad as a lot of people lead you to believe but there are certain things as well that give people every right to complain about.
No, it's fine.
The only people who are pished are those that found something else they prefer and think everyone should come join them. The game-flaming that comes out of that popluace-envy is just sad. Too much QQ IMO.
yes some people do that but a lot of people play wow (like myself) because there is nothing els worth wild or all their friends play it. yeah wow isnt as bad as a lot of people lead you to believe but there are certain things as well that give people every right to complain about.
If it's good enough that you are choosing it over every other activity financially available to you in life, there should be no complaints. Suggestions for improvements yes, complaining - especially in the extreme forms we see on sites like this - is silly.
WoW PvP has no meaning because you arent fighting over anything. You do everything in an instance, what can you pvp over besides artificial honor & ranking? WoW isnt a PvP game
So EQ is better in the aspect where the pvp has meaning etc. WoW is more balanced obviously, but that doesnt mean it's enjoyable to sit in BGs or arenas killing people over and over for no reason at all.
Id prefer a meaningful pvp system that is unbalanced over a meaningless pvp system that is balanced. At least there was a goal to EQ PvP. Yes you can world pvp in WoW but no one does it because they dont have anything worth fighting over that isn't in an instance. WoW blows.
All of EQ's BEST content is contested. Plus points and leveling, and being able to loot "victims" in EQ2, dunno if it is the same in EQ any more. Did you even play EQ? Really?
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
no eq pvp is NOT meaningful, the only meaning to eq pvp is zone/spawn camp control, witch is no different than and wow on the pvp servers. the only difference is wow has bg's and arenas witch at least gets you gear.
i will say that because eq's community is 93545236453x better than wow's, that makes it more enjoyable at times, but that is a different topic.
BTW i have seen some huge wars on my old pvp server in blackrock mountain and i have also heard that the pvp can get pretty crazy in the outlands, so its not like people don't fight in the open.
so what your saying is that there needs to be no instancing in order for pvp to be meaningful? yes i played on vallon zek for over 3 years and loved it at the time but looking back on it, the pvp was horrid.
funny you talk about instancing with no interruption or competition in pvp but then mention eq2 lol last i checked there was instancing in eq2 as well but point taken about the looting, i think eq2's pvp system is better than wow's and eq1 regardless of the instancing.
Zone control so you can raid an NPC.. that has more meaning than random pvp you encounter in WOW.. Btw, do you even play WoW? You talk like there is actually pvp in PvE zones, which there isnt. Sometimes you will randomly clear out a garbage guild on the way to an instance, but thats about it. And it's pretty rare, since people just hide in instances
And yes its different than WoW on pvp servers.. have you played pvp servers? Its exactly like a pve server (since no one pvps anyway).
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
Well, not really. A fact would be scientifically provable, you're talking about opinion.
Scientifically provable... Well...
When two games are based on the same mechanics, and almost bugfree (ie : playable with some enjoyment, without to worry about bugs), when two games provides similar content (here : monster bashing), but one of them is free, then the fact is here : the free2play one is better.
Unless you prefer spending all your money into virtual items and competences of course... lol
Blizzard has 120 million reasons ( each month) that says you are wrong.
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what?
Well, not really. A fact would be scientifically provable, you're talking about opinion.
Scientifically provable... Well...
When two games are based on the same mechanics, and almost bugfree (ie : playable with some enjoyment, without to worry about bugs), when two games provides similar content (here : monster bashing), but one of them is free, then the fact is here : the free2play one is better.
Unless you prefer spending all your money into virtual items and competences of course... lol
That's still not a true fact. It's something that is subjective and based on personal taste. Someone liking F2P over P2P can be a fact, but saying F2P is better then P2P or vice versa isn't.
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