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Sean Hannity and his hypocrisy about foreign policy and war.

noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
Hannity's Humanitarianism

As most astute readers are by now aware, in the second Republican Presidential debate in South Carolina - hosted by Fox News - a certain Congressman Ron Paul of Texas made quite the splash by suggesting that US foreign policy ought to be one of non-interventionism.

During the post-debate coverage, one Sean Hannity had a spirited exchange with Congressman Paul over the morality of interventionist war: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f60_1179353451

Hannity: “Are you saying then that the world has no moral obligation in the first Gulf War, when an innocent country is being pillaged and people are being raped and murdered and slaughtered, or in the case of Saddam, he’s gassing his own people, are you suggesting we have no moral obligation? … You stand by and let that immorality happen?You support that? … You would stand by and do that, I would not.I think that’s immoral.”
Oh really? What most astute readers may or may not be aware of are Hannity’s previous statements regarding just such circumstances in the past. I’ll let Hannity speak for himself regarding Kosovo:

"Why should one U.S. airman give up his life when our national security is not in imminent danger?"

March 24, 1999



"Congressman Moran, a couple of things that are in my mind. Number one is the president has really failed to lay out before the American people the reasons why we need to be involved militarily. That's number one.



And then we go back to Henry Kissinger's test, which is number one, is there a vital U.S. national interest? And do we have a plan to disengage? What's the exit strategy? I don't see that we've met that test either. And why does it have to happen this second, this hour? Why don't we have a national debate first?"

March 24, 1999


"But you know what? There's a lot of massacres going on in the world. As you know, 37,000 Kurds in Turkey, over a million people in Sudan. We have hundreds of thousands in Rwanda and Burundi. I mean, where do we stop?"

March 24, 1999


"Slobodan Milosevic is a bad guy. He's an evil man. Horrible things are happening. I agree with that. Is Bill O'Reilly then saying we go to Rwanda, Burundi, Somalia, Sudan? Where does this stop? And when you look at sheer numbers, 2,000 -- and I'm not minimizing death. It's horrible. What this man is doing with ethnic cleansing is abhorrent, but sheer numbers -- 2,000 killed in the last year versus hundreds of thousands, millions in some cases in other parts of the world. Are you saying the United States should go to all those places?"

on "The O'Reilly Factor," April 5, 1999

But, gentle reader, lest you be mistaken, there is one key difference between the Iraq war and Kosovo that renders Hannity’s “nuanced” view valid. The difference? Kosovo was undertaken by a Democrat President, Iraq under a Republican.

But even that cannot let him off the hypocrisy hook, as his statements to Congressman Paul were not just specific to Iraq, but were broader blanket statements that it would be immoral for the US not to intervene and “fight for freedom wherever there’s trouble” (as GI Joe would put it).



http://orat.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html#1825782444233181264



More quotes -http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/3/202851/3778



It's funny thinking I use the same arguments as Sean Hannity (the 1999 version).

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Comments

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    Hannity is not hypocritical, he is a true right wing Republican patriot able to recognize the fight for rights and freedoms anywhere in the world that has oil. It's just that Kosovo didn't have oil, neither does Darfur, Somalia, Haiti, New Orleans, and a host of other worldwide hotspots in which robbery, murder, rape, looting, and general anarchy exist every day. And why should America bring peace and democracy to these areas like we have to Iraq? Shouldn't US foreign policy be guided by the principle that we will do best for the people of the world that can do best for us?

    All I can say about this whining about Hannity is that you, sir, are not a true American. You must be a supporter of Global Terrorism, a weak kneed Democrat not capable of seeing the long range implications of President Bush's foreign policy. You sir, are no friend of Fox News, and you had better watch yourself, we have laws against people like you, and if we don't have one specifically to address your current disaffection with Fox News, we can soon make one up.  

    If you do not repent and change your evil ways, well, let's just say we have a place for you on a military base on a narrow, elongated Carribean Island nation that you currently cannot travel to unless you receive the opportunity from Homeland Security. I think you know very well exactly where I mean.

    Why do you hate America?

    God bless George Dubya Bush and America, for they truely are one and the same!

     

  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,410

    Hannity has got to be the biggest douchebag I've ever encountered. Nitwits like Anne Coulter say things far worse that Hannity, but they are just saying them for shock value, and media attention. He actually believes his own bullshit, I think.

    I'd like the opportunity to debate him on FAUX sometime. If only so I could headbutt him six or seven times on national tv, and then say, "End of fucking argument." before I walk off. Yeah, he'd press charges like a little bitch, but it'd totally be worth it.

    That or have John Stewart bring him on his show, or vice versa, so he can call him a dick like he did to Tucker Carlson.

  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by Coldmeat


    Hannity has got to be the biggest douchebag I've ever encountered. Nitwits like Anne Coulter say things far worse that Hannity, but they are just saying them for shock value, and media attention. He actually believes his own bullshit, I think.
    I'd like the opportunity to debate him on FAUX sometime. If only so I could headbutt him six or seven times on national tv, and then say, "End of fucking argument." before I walk off. Yeah, he'd press charges like a little bitch, but it'd totally be worth it.
    That or have John Stewart bring him on his show, or vice versa, so he can call him a dick like he did to Tucker Carlson.
    He used to make me mad, but then I realized how sad he looked.  I mean, think about it.  Everything he says is going to happen doesn't.  So, obviously he has no idea what the heck he's talking about.  He runs around defending Bush all the time, but then has nothing to say when his idol turns on him.  He's done it with the border, government programs, and just about everything else conservatives used to stand for.  If it weren't for the war in Iraq, then I don't know how a true conservative could say anything good about Bush.  Yet they talk about him like he's the new savior or something.



    I'm just wondering if he realizes how dumb he makes himself look by being totally off base like he is on so many things.



    Ooooooh, did you hear him during the Dubai Ports deal?  That was hilarious!!!  He couldn't make up his mind.  He knew that turning over our security to and Arab nation was bad, but he kept trying hard to kiss Bush's ass at the same time.  I used to tune in back then just to hear him squirm on the air.  He kept telling all the callers, "But you've got to remember, Bush has had a greater plan that many of us haven't understood so far, and I'm sure he does now.  This sounds bad, but I'm sure they have information we just haven't heard yet."   I almost died laughing through that whole thing.

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    Hannity is not a hypocrite.

    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.

    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    Okay, so he's a celebrity who delegates putting together a concert once a year.  And funny thing was, he had Hank Williams Jr. at his last one, singing about drinking and drugs.  Fine family entertainment.  I'm sure it makes him feel really good to help the children who have lost a parent because of a pointless war that he helps promote.



    I used to buy into that conservative a.m. radio hype a while back.  But the whole time I had this weird feeling about the whole thing, but it seemed to be okay, because they were talking about smaller government and lower taxes and how horrible Clinton was.  But then the veil started to part whenever Bush got into office.  Suddenly I realized that Bush was just as bad as Clinton if not worse.  And all the while the a.m. radio guys were still talking about how great he was.  But for what? 



    Now they are still promoting Bush and all the while he is trying to push f'd up things like that immigration bill.  But do the a.m. radio guys finally see who he is?  Nope.  They look the other way.  The same way they do when he promotes that huge Medicaid crap, and the ill treatment of our troops when they come home, and the biggest increases in spending in history, and the invasion of privacy and spying that Bush is so keen on, and selling our port security to overseas nations.  Need I go on?  At what point do conservatives like Shaun Hannity admit that they are a hack?



    Integrity?  Yeah, if Clinton were doing the things Bush has been doing they would be all over him.  That's not showing much integrity.

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  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516
    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    There's only a few people on the radio I've heard with integrity.  Neal Boortz, Jerry Doyle, George Noory, and Dennis Miller are a few that show no boundaries and are straight up with listeners.  But I don't see too much integrity with Hannity.



    There is a local guy on the radio here in Dallas that I like a lot.  His name is Mark Davis.  He just started going nationwide.  I don't know if he's on the radio where you live, Enigma.  But if so you should check him out.  He's not afraid to admit he made a mistake about someone and definitely does not tow a party line at all.



    Here's a link to some of his editorials.  He writes for the local newspaper here in Dallas too. 



    www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/columnists/mdavis/vitindex.html

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    He busts his ass of to raise money for children of fallen children??? What does he do exactly that is so ass busting?



    Pffft Oprah can and has raised way more money than Sean could dream of. Not only that but she doesn't even have to raise money...she just pays out of her pocket too. She even travels to Africa on a regular basis...and stuff like that. Oprah is a liberal, and has done more for charities, so does this mean that she is more correct than Sean when it comes to politics? No. Really charity has nothing to do with my original post or if Sean is a hypocrit. I'm sure a lot of hypocrits donate to charity and/or work in one. The charity argument is a wash and is a fallacious argument.



    It's not hard to find dirt on Sean. I obviously have found it. You can't even respond to my argument. I think it's you who has to try so hard to respond to my dirt.



    Hannity doesn't seem to have much integrity....he's a flip flopper and you haven't proven otherwise.

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  • MajorBiggsMajorBiggs Member UncommonPosts: 709
    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    He busts his ass of to raise money for children of fallen children??? What does he do exactly that is so ass busting?



    Pffft Oprah can and has raised way more money than Sean could dream of. Not only that but she doesn't even have to raise money...she just pays out of her pocket too. She even travels to Africa on a regular basis...and stuff like that. Oprah is a liberal, and has done more for charities, so does this mean that she is more correct than Sean when it comes to politics? No. Really charity has nothing to do with my original post or if Sean is a hypocrit. I'm sure a lot of hypocrits donate to charity and/or work in one. The charity argument is a wash and is a fallacious argument.



    It's not hard to find dirt on Sean. I obviously have found it. You can't even respond to my argument. I think it's you who has to try so hard to respond to my dirt.



    Hannity doesn't seem to have much integrity....he's a flip flopper and you haven't proven otherwise.

    question...where is the dirt on sean again?
  • PyritePyrite Member Posts: 309
    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    I'm sure all the soldiers who will die in the future appreciate his support.  Unless, of course, their kids die in service before going to college.



    If only there was a way to stop the cycle.

    The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite......
    ...... Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.



    You, sir, are not a true American patriot, but rather one of those pansy liberal Democrat supporters of Global Terrorism in disguise. A true follower of the faith would never argue, "My whore has more integrity than your whores", but would stick to Carl Rove's authorized talking points. Thus, your thinking betrays your true nature. A true neo-con would have responded in the appropriate manner, admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter acquisations.

    Hannity is like one of Jesus 12 Apostles, spreading HIS word to the unenlightened sinners. True believers do not argue his integrity, they just believe.....after all, his support of the troops is all that they need to know.

    Why, sir, do you hate America?

     

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
    Originally posted by MajorBiggs

    question...where is the dirt on sean again?
    Sean's talking points in 1999 are very applicable for the war in Iraq and the upcoming Iran war. A little slow are ya?

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  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by MajorBiggs

    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Originally posted by Enigma


    Hannity is not a hypocrite.
    I respect that man more than any republican or democrate.
    That man work's his ass off to raise money for the children of falling soldiers so that they can have a college education.  You see, the libs try SO hard...oh SO VERY hard to get dirt on Hannity.  Say what you must, but Hannity has more integrity in his left finger than then entire US Congress and I have my upmost respect in the man.
    He busts his ass of to raise money for children of fallen children??? What does he do exactly that is so ass busting?



    Pffft Oprah can and has raised way more money than Sean could dream of. Not only that but she doesn't even have to raise money...she just pays out of her pocket too. She even travels to Africa on a regular basis...and stuff like that. Oprah is a liberal, and has done more for charities, so does this mean that she is more correct than Sean when it comes to politics? No. Really charity has nothing to do with my original post or if Sean is a hypocrit. I'm sure a lot of hypocrits donate to charity and/or work in one. The charity argument is a wash and is a fallacious argument.



    It's not hard to find dirt on Sean. I obviously have found it. You can't even respond to my argument. I think it's you who has to try so hard to respond to my dirt.



    Hannity doesn't seem to have much integrity....he's a flip flopper and you haven't proven otherwise.

    question...where is the dirt on sean again? I gave a nice little list of things on my post up above yours.  Check it out. 

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  • Keebs1984Keebs1984 Member Posts: 1,356

    Hannity is nothing more than a Fox News anchor.

    Annoying? Yes.

    Hypocritical at times? Of course, we all are.

    Hard-core Republican? You betcha.

    However, he is nobody to even pay attention to unless you are also a hardcore republican. He has no real power. The only power he has is over other hardcore republicans, ones that are unable to think for themselves and in turn end up going to him for their opinions and their news. I know several republicans (good friends of mine) who don't like him and certainly would not be caught dead watching his joke of a news show.

    As for his charitable work. Its the first time I have heard of it. If its true then good for him, but its nothing to give him a standing ovation for. There are hundreds of thousands of people who do charitable work every day, a lot who, no doubt, work a hellofalot harder than Hannity ever will. So if anybody respects Hannity that much for for the simple fact he does a lot of charity work then let me introduce you to a million other people cause you have a lot of respecting to do. 

    Eternally mine,
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