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Power Leveling not working?
direttore
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Hey guys, I just got the 14-day free trial of CoH. A higher-level player (34) offered to help me (9) gain a few levels. He SK'ed me and took me to Brickstown, but when we were fighting mobs on the street, I was only gaining 10-20 exp per kill, and these were mobs lvl 30+... anyone know why this was happening? Any help would be really appreciated.
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If he sidekicked you, it turned you into a pseudo-lvl 33, so basically you were getting the xp you would get if you were fighting things at that lvl. In order to sort of Power level in CoX you have to stay your own lvl and get either buffed so you can fight things stronger than you or have the higher level draw all the aggro so you can kill without getting touched. On their forums they have a few methods in a power levelers guide.
<edit - I emailed you some tips gotta watch out for haters lol>
I'm more stunned at why on earth you would consider it a favor to be cheated out of several levels of the game. Fast-moving, key-for-development levels no less.
Let's go grab lunch at Burger King. I'll be happy to "power level" you to the middle of your burger.v
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final word of advice dont discuss PLing with anyone. CoX community is full of haters & snitches that will do everything they can to blow the whistle on your farms and get the Devs to nerf it. the only reason why my SGs farms never got nerfed til this day cause we kept our mouths shut and only discussed our runs on vent with good friends. only one of our good farms got nerfed but that was only because ev1 and their mom used it to PL their toons to max cap religiously lol
the key is to join an SG and dont post about it. only trust your SG no one else.
there are many, many exploits people been using for a long time now
there's nothing wrong with power leveling.
there, i said it.
now, that blanket statement does have qualifiers and caveats attached to it.
power leveling someone who is new to the game, i.e. their first toon; or power leveling a total stranger, are well, stupid. unless your goal is to have random high level players with no clue about anything, with a bunch of TOs slotted in their powers and 6 slotted brawl+rest.
i mean if that's your goal, by all means PL at random.
but, if you've already played a dozen toons thru the low levels and your only REAL interest is to grab the fortune teller mish on your way to 14; then, what's wrong with it?
a bad player at level 1, is going to be a bad player at level 50. a good player at level 1, will be a good player at level 50. PLing isn't going to affect that. most GOOD players won't want to be PLed on their first toon anyways.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I personally don't see a problem with someone PL another player. I see it as dumb for the exact reason that Damian7. Sure you want your character more powerful but in the long run, your only gimping yourself.
As for the SG PL; I see this is the best approach. Less spammers on the broadcast channel and one less person to /ignore for spamming.
As for the reason for the OP to powerlevel. Well, he's on the 14 day trial. Kinda like renting out a game and finishing it in 2 days.
The best and most fun powerlevel you can ever experience is a full 8 person run with an upped difficulty. Now that's exciting, fun, and fast.
Go from level 1 to 8 in about an hour running through the sewers near Atlas park to Skyway with an 8 person group.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
There are XP caps for each level bracket so u won't gain thousands of XP even if you are fighting high level mobs as a sidekicked character. This is to slow down power leveling but it still CAN be done altho slower now. You have to realize how XP sharing works in a team. A team member can only share XP if it is within about 5 levels of the highest team member compared to the mob your team is fighting, anymore than that they get 0, zilch, nada XP.
Example: You have a level 35, a level 33, and you a level 9 (sidekicked as level 32) and fighting a level 35 level mob. The XP is split 3 ways, 50% for the 35 guy, and 35% for 33 guy and 15% for you. Let's say a level 35 mob is worth 1000 xp (just an example to make it easier to calculate but it's really less than that). 500 for 35 guy, 350 for 33 guy and 150 for you. However since the cap of a level 9 is around 30 xp per mob you will only get that much due to the XP cap. However your friend can still help u out by going into missions. Since the higher missions have more mobs in it, and combined with the ability to mass kill them, you will still gain more xp even if you are only earning 30 xp per mob than if you are soloing.
Oh btw, power leveling randomly is bad because you end up with high level players who doesn't know how to play their characters and act like newbies (in fact they are newbies to the game with a high level character it's like giving them an expensive ferrari to someone who doesn't know how to drive). About PL, i'm not for it nor against it... however if say, I got a friend who is a very experienced player who already got several lvl 50s then I wouldn't mind giving him a boost thru the low boring levels.
For a level 34 to powerlevel someone else...
He needs to find a level 30-31 who will SK you...then both you and the level 30-31 will be powerleveled if he fight stuff level 34-37 (level 37 been about twice better then 34 if he can kills fast).
There needs to be 5 level differences (or 4 or 3) between you and the highest level in the group to be powerleveled. When you are sidekicked you are that player -1 level.
That's been said...I don't like PL myself.
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oh i remember the first winter event. hordes of n00bs taking out winter lords getting 1000s of xps and leveling without contacts or skills. after the first winter one could often hear these guys complain about various things, They got spoiled and people with power and no wisdom is a bad thing. don't see too many of em now tho guess they learned how to play or quit.
Actually the best way to PL is with a level 41 anchor. You get a level 50 farmer, 3 lowbies, 3 level 45s, and a level 41. For an easier farm with no bosses stop at 2 45s and 2 lowbies. This works because of the team average. This way the farmer kills everything, the lowbies are sked up to 44 and the 41 brings the average down enough for the lowbies to get xp from the +8 that the farmer is killing.
Now that I said that, I personally do not PL. I will for a couple of levels, but not for any large chunks of levels. I also agree that PLing a newbie is a very bad idea. My SG always required you to level your first 50 the long way before you could farm with us.
First of all, that's some impressive thread necromancy there.
Agreed that this is common procedure Wikked. Here's the thing though - fighting 52s for that is downright foolish. The XP formula uses several multipliers, one of which is that the highest player on the team gets the biggest chunk of credit for the kill. That scales up as the difference spreads. Then there's another multiplier for the level of the enemy to you. That scales down as the level increases.Here is a link btw if you want to see the raw numbers for yourself. But here's the relevant bit.
Say have 48s and 50s fighting 52s. The share multiplier is .95 for the low and 1.05 for the high. They're only losing a little bit for being lvl 48. However, the reward multiplier is 1.4 (who fights +2) and 1.9 for the high (who fights +4).
Low xp = .95 * 1.9 = 1.805
High xp = .1.05 * 1.4 = 1.47
That's why powerleveling works. The team is set up so the high guy does all the work, and the low guy gets more credit.
Now let's consider the situation you described. 1 41, 2 or 3 44/45 pairs, and 1 50. That's an average about 45.
41 gets nothing btw, but that was a given.
lvl 44 = .95 * 2 = 1.9
lvl 45 = 1.0 * 2 = 2.0
lvl 50 = 1.5 * 1.4 = 2.1
In this case, the PL'd guy is getting the least credit. It's not that smart of an arrangement. Now try this instead - same makeup, fighting enemies at 49 (blue to the active guy).
lvl 44 = .95 * 2 = 1.9
lvl 45 = 1.0 * 1.9 = 1.9
lvl 50 = 1.5 * .8 = 1.2
Now your balance is much better - the credit is going where you want it too. Then consider how much faster it is to kill -1s than it is to kill +2s, and it's pretty obvious. Never PL anyone with enemies higher than +5 to them, and +4 is just about the same.
Of course the larger issue is getting and maintaining a team like that. The 45 bridges are right in the sweet spot themselves, so this setup will be self-destructive very quickly. Which is why a good bridge is very hard to find, and anyone who's willing to can go from 45 to 49 in a day.
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The key is to have a good farmer. I don't know about the people you play with, but some of my SGmates can blow through 52s with out any problem and get the lowbie more xp in the process. It all really comes down to the ability of the farmer. I personally farm with a fire/fire tanks. Sure its a bit slower then a well built fire/kin, but its a lot less common.
To be honest I don't know if your math is right or not. I do know that you can get more xp to the lowbie my way. Not talking percentages here like you are, I'm talking xp numbers. I'm not gonna sit here and quote math figures, thats not the kind of thing I do, but I will tell you what I have learned through personal experience in the game. I know it works, because I have done it.
When I think of CoH PLing, I think of the old days when tanks could pull an zone full of mobs into a small area which then got blasted by teammates. Hundreds of mobs dying quickly = massive XP. They put limits to prevent that some time ago.
No sure if this still works but the best way is to SK, goto a mission, then un-sk and wait for a few minutes then finish. Then you get the un-adulterated high level mission bonus. If you SK immediately I htink it still acts like you were mentor-1 level.
I personally use my katana/regen scrapper to farm. I run the farm with a maximum of 3 people, and I can gain xp, influence, and prestige twice the rate of a fire/kin on a 6 man team.
Just play the game, run some story arcs for god sake.
LOL - I do remember that. I was working on a few alt builds during that time just to get a peak at the higher level powers that I would normally not see for a while. Same when RV first came out in Beta Test. I made one alt after the other just to check out powers and builds.
I miss those days. Now I just level and enjoy !