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SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

TItle basically says it, since many people reply to GW community threads with WoW community being worse, I chose to state my view on this, using a list of facts,

1) Played WoW for 11.5 months, Guild Wars for 5

2) Joined and left over 10 Guilds in each

3) Left all except one Guild Wars guild because of 11-14 year old kids talking trash over vent, felt like I was in middle school or so

4) In my WoW everyday side character guilds, there was atleast 10 adults to one kid, in my final raiding guild there was 1 kid out of 70 people. Not to mention I knew members of the top 10 guilds of the server, and a person under 17 was very rare

5) One Guild out of all my GW guilds was fully mature, but left them due to moving to a new house and no internet for a month or so.

6) Guild Wars Spammers are usually 13 year old kids, like I was selling this storm bow, and one of them offers me 5 platinum for hit, I msg him back sayins "roflol", he says "go roflol yourself" and me sensing his weak/uneducated comeback ask him if he is 13. He replies "LOL im a software engineer making $50 000 a month" then calls me a noob. Offcoarse 50 k a month is about 600k a year, and software engineers usually struggle to make 50k a year anyhow, unless they are some big timers working on a game or so.

7) The spammers / scammers in WoW arent 13, they are alot older. One of the biggest ninja looters/scammers happened to be my friend was 21 years old, he did it for fun, and alot of people took good laughs at him.

 

Comments

  • RPGnubRPGnub Member Posts: 96
    So according to your statements GW has a lot of 13 year olds who trash-talk and spam crap (I'm not going to deny this really...) while WoW has a lot of older people who trash-talk and spam a lot of crap. Doesn't really make much of a difference to me since both games have a large community due to their popularity so naturally the amount of idiots increases as well. In defense of GW I'd say that the instancing does make this less of a problem in GW since you don't have to deal with morons more than absolutly necessary. Still I see the problem which however can't really be helped by the developers neither in GW nor in WoW. Stopping people from buying their game because they are stupid would be sort of contra-productive after all.





    Still you haven't really seen BAD until you played one of those freebie games like Silkroad.
  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979
    i deal with crap like that also.  we all had bad experiances like that in games.  if not i would want to play that game lol.  theres a bunch of people out there who cant handle playing a online game with a bunch of people. people who mess with people online just not have a life and are sad little people who have nothin better to do.  we just gotta deal with it and not worry about it.  im hopin age of conan wont have too many children since of the m rating.  maybe there is hope. 
  • RPGnubRPGnub Member Posts: 96
    I feel like I have to step up for the kiddos here.



    In my experience the really young players (like 13 year olds) actually tend to rather play their game silently. The worst type of players are usually the real social misfits, sometimes students with even more freetime than any 13 year old. Usually you can avoid these people by ignoring anyone who even thinks about using the noob term or similar words. However, sometimes the mere thought that I am sharing my hobby with people who are nearly adults but LOL in real life makes me feel like I chose the wrong hobby.



    Edit: I am perfectly aware that this statement makes me sort of a hypocrite, given my username.
  • AkaraxleAkaraxle Member UncommonPosts: 471


    Originally posted by Slangroth
    TItle basically says it, since many people reply to GW community threads with WoW community being worse, I chose to state my view on this, using a list of facts,
    1) Played WoW for 11.5 months, Guild Wars for 5
    2) Joined and left over 10 Guilds in each
    3) Left all except one Guild Wars guild because of 11-14 year old kids talking trash over vent, felt like I was in middle school or so
    4) In my WoW everyday side character guilds, there was atleast 10 adults to one kid, in my final raiding guild there was 1 kid out of 70 people. Not to mention I knew members of the top 10 guilds of the server, and a person under 17 was very rare
    5) One Guild out of all my GW guilds was fully mature, but left them due to moving to a new house and no internet for a month or so.
    6) Guild Wars Spammers are usually 13 year old kids, like I was selling this storm bow, and one of them offers me 5 platinum for hit, I msg him back sayins "roflol", he says "go roflol yourself" and me sensing his weak/uneducated comeback ask him if he is 13. He replies "LOL im a software engineer making $50 000 a month" then calls me a noob. Offcoarse 50 k a month is about 600k a year, and software engineers usually struggle to make 50k a year anyhow, unless they are some big timers working on a game or so.
    7) The spammers / scammers in WoW arent 13, they are alot older. One of the biggest ninja looters/scammers happened to be my friend was 21 years old, he did it for fun, and alot of people took good laughs at him.
    3) You joined crappy guilds.
    4) I know members of the top 10 guilds in the world, and a person under 16 is very rare.
    5) All of my GW guilds were fully mature.
    6) Msging back saying "roflol" is the first sign of immaturity, congrats to you.
    7) That makes those spammers/spammers worse, since older people aren't supposed to be immature while for kids it can be forgiven.


    Overall, I can tell you failed at selecting good guilds. There are a ton in Guild Wars, and my bet is that you just picked the ones that spam in Ascalon.

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  • rexkramerrexkramer Member Posts: 28
    Someone else mentioned it first, but the size of the community is going to factor into the ratio of idiots and immature players. Couple this to the anonymity aspect of any online environment and there's ALWAYS going to be problematic players. It's just the sad reality of things, no matter if it's a shooter or an MMO, you will always encounter "immature" individuals. It's what the community or game devs do to combat the problem that makes or breaks the game's fun factor. Personally, I wish it were possible to auto ignore spammers in GW because there's simply so many -- so many that I avoid trading or questing with these types out of principle. Even at that you'll never be able to fully avoid the random idiot that online games will forever attract. And maturity doesn't always come with age as I've come to know plenty of 30+ year-old game hackers and sploiters over the years. As you might expect, even these so-called grown-ups use terms such as "pwnd, omfg" and...well, you get the idea.

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  • pureazurepureazure Member Posts: 148
    Originally posted by Slangroth


    7) The spammers / scammers in WoW arent 13, they are alot older. One of the biggest ninja looters/scammers happened to be my friend was 21 years old, he did it for fun, and alot of people took good laughs at him.
    I honestly don't see how the age of the spammers and scammers matters. At the end of the day they are both ruining the game for others.



    I don't give a crap about people doing either, people that ruin game experiences are not funny.

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  • trallatralla Member Posts: 290

    I've played guild wars for 16 months (retired now tho) and i found it very rare to find anyone under age 16. I were in top 10 guild and only found age 22 - 30 people. But i do agree with the spamming.. damn 13yr old kiddies don't know how to play and ruin for others instead.

  • lordfarrellordfarrel Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by Slangroth



    6) Guild Wars Spammers are usually 13 year old kids, like I was selling this storm bow, and one of them offers me 5 platinum for hit, I msg him back sayins "roflol", he says "go roflol yourself" and me sensing his weak/uneducated comeback ask him if he is 13. He replies "LOL im a software engineer making $50 000 a month" then calls me a noob. Offcoarse 50 k a month is about 600k a year, and software engineers usually struggle to make 50k a year anyhow, unless they are some big timers working on a game or so.



     
    Is this supposed to make us sympathetic to your cause?????   A guy offered you a price for an item and you laugh at him and expect him to be civil to you.  He may have been a noob, he may have only had 5k, your bow may have been crap, he may have been a bargain hunter.  I have had that happen when im buying and selling, ppl use lol and rofl insted of "no thanks" or "sorry but it usually sells for $$$".  If you were in a shop face to face with someone and you offered $$$ for a fridge and the guy laughed at you how would you feel, just cos your hiding behind a computer doesn't mean ppl wont take offence. 



    You just sound like a rude person to me




  • Originally posted by Slangroth


    This is an  bad WoW thread
    Im going to need 100 responses:
    15 Related to my current game is better than WoW, in every aspect possible, to start the useless arguement
    10 Related to how I beat WoW in 3 months and there was nothing left to do, though the value of my account is under 50 bucks due to greens
    20 Related to how WoW is an easy/childish game with no effort, and you have no clue why so many play it, not realizing the ones playing it are currently too busy to reply to your post
    10 Related to how much better the graphics of Guild Wars and Lineage 2 are, though in your head your computer can barely run them on low settings
    5 Related to how many kids play WoW, though your boss at work asks you when you are going to start playing
    5 Comparing World of Warcraft to Future games in terms of graphics
    5 Giving my Analysis, based on developer website words such as "stunning graphics, and real pvp," on how much better upcoming games are going to be compared to WoW
    15 Related to asking the question, should I play "WoW or This game," giving over 10 reasons you already prefer the other game to WoW, though played none
    15 Related to Comparing the two games, where a thread is made every day on the same topic
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    GO!

    Orignal link:  http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1188077#1188077

    No wonder care to give any responses to that post - You are just trying to trolling/spam Slangroth

  • UploadUpload Member Posts: 679
    Originally posted by RPGnub

    ... WoW has a lot of older people ...
    Don't say things you have NEVER experienced. If you make such statement, you have NEVER played this game before.
  • RPGnubRPGnub Member Posts: 96
    Please read in context next time since I said that WoW has a lot of older people according to what Slangeroth said.
  • UploadUpload Member Posts: 679
    Originally posted by RPGnub

    Please read in context next time since I said that WoW has a lot of older people according to what Slangeroth said.
    I quit reading after you said ''WoW has alot of elder people'' It's nonsense
  • RPGnubRPGnub Member Posts: 96
    You do realize that by "older people" I wasn't talking about grannies but rather adults ?



    While you don't have to care about fully reading and comprehending a post

    it still isn't particulary wise to quote it unless you do.
  • UploadUpload Member Posts: 679
    Originally posted by RPGnub

    You do realize that by "older people" I wasn't talking about grannies but rather adults ?



    While you don't have to care about fully reading and comprehending a post

    it still isn't particulary wise to quote it unless you do.
    Don't think it's your job to tell me if I should or shouldn't quote people. And yes, I knew you was talking about med. aged people...
  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by lordfarrel

    Originally posted by Slangroth



    6) Guild Wars Spammers are usually 13 year old kids, like I was selling this storm bow, and one of them offers me 5 platinum for hit, I msg him back sayins "roflol", he says "go roflol yourself" and me sensing his weak/uneducated comeback ask him if he is 13. He replies "LOL im a software engineer making $50 000 a month" then calls me a noob. Offcoarse 50 k a month is about 600k a year, and software engineers usually struggle to make 50k a year anyhow, unless they are some big timers working on a game or so.



     
    Is this supposed to make us sympathetic to your cause?????   A guy offered you a price for an item and you laugh at him and expect him to be civil to you.  He may have been a noob, he may have only had 5k, your bow may have been crap, he may have been a bargain hunter.  I have had that happen when im buying and selling, ppl use lol and rofl insted of "no thanks" or "sorry but it usually sells for $$$".  If you were in a shop face to face with someone and you offered $$$ for a fridge and the guy laughed at you how would you feel, just cos your hiding behind a computer doesn't mean ppl wont take offence. 



    You just sound like a rude person to me




     

    Also, he had two pieces of Kurzick 15k, and three pieces of Vabbian armor, so I doubt he had no clue how much a 15^50 req 9 storm bow costs.

  • GregPorterGregPorter Member Posts: 38
    I agree with LordFarrel. Here you are complaining about an immature community and you reply "Rolf" to an offer. To an answer like that I would expect his reply.



    Whether or not he knew how much it costs doesn't make much of an argument to your response.



    You can not change others, you can only can yourself. (Or so they say)
  • edlinxedlinx Member Posts: 2

    Hello,

     

    I have played GW for a year and still playing WoW. The problem is that both games gave lots of immature individuals. GW is a bit better than WoW. But the fact is that you must work hard to find mature guild and nice people. I just hope that in the future we will have game options like “find me mature guild above 25” or “realms above 25” or “district for nice and mature players” or “keep idiots out”… but that is just my humble wish.

     

    KR

  • AkaraxleAkaraxle Member UncommonPosts: 471


    Originally posted by Slangroth
    Also, he had two pieces of Kurzick 15k, and three pieces of Vabbian armor, so I doubt he had no clue how much a 15^50 req 9 storm bow costs.

    Are you an idiot, or just trolling to be one? What does having mixed armor pieces have to do with anything? Why should you PM people "roflol" just because he doesn't know the price of an item?


    If GW's community is bad, then you fit right in bud.

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  • lx300lx300 Member Posts: 9
    MAN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GW, IF U WANNA TALK ABOUT WOW,  POST IN WOW FORUM BUT NOT HERE

    im like anyother mmorpg player, with a 280g of memory and 4g of ram

  • nazgumnazgum Member UncommonPosts: 13
    Personally I found this to a degree also, and it was very frustrating for me.



    I really wanted to like Guild Wars, I'm a fan of PVP and it seemed more my type of game then WoW.  Except, all PVP in Guild Wars is group based, and I found it impossible to find a decent group.



    In WoW I had many friends which played, which made it easier to have good groups, but WoW also inherently had more social aspects in the game for you to meet people; I found it very difficult to meet players in Guild Wars anywhere; each guild I joined was just one of the random ones spammed on some zone, and they were always terrible.



    If I could have gotten into a good guild with some more mature players I think I would have enjoyed Guild Wars a lot, but because I couldn't do that over a period of about 2 months of trying I gave up and stopped playing.
  • exanimoexanimo Member UncommonPosts: 1,301

    guildwars as 3 million players , all u can talk about is your experience , you didnt socialize with everyone.
    its true is not easy to find a good guild , but that is real life also not easy to find good friends.

  • AkaraxleAkaraxle Member UncommonPosts: 471


    Originally posted by nazgum
    If I could have gotten into a good guild with some more mature players I think I would have enjoyed Guild Wars a lot, but because I couldn't do that over a period of about 2 months of trying I gave up and stopped playing.
    If you ever felt like giving GW another try, he's a piece of advice: find a guild on community forums (GWOnline, GWGuru, The Guild Hall, Team-IQ, etc.) rather than in-game, you'll have better chances of finding serious people.

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