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300 the training

BoozbazBoozbaz Member Posts: 1,918
I'm sure you've all see the trailers, but have you checked out the training regime? It's under making of--> video journals.



24 pull ups - 50 deadlifts - 50 push ups (sometimes on handle bars) - 50 box jumps - 50 floor wipers (dragging a huge tire attached to one's waist across the room and back) - 50 kettle bar clean n' press and 25 pull ups.



all in 20 minutes.



Somebody on another forum I frequent had this to say:



One of the most interesting areas of exercise that's unexplored, imho, is the idea of "metabolic conditioning."



Basically sustained, elevated heart rate in the context of anaerobic exercise for some prolonged period of time.



Arthur Jones had people doing this stuff for athletics (though in the context of basic barbell exercises and machines) 30+ years ago. The original inspiration for "circuit" style training was probably that, though it became something much, much lamer. Like a way to "work up a sweat" and feel like you did something cardiovascularly while lifting some weights.



I'm not sure if anybody has ever tried it, but attempt to do, say, 8-12 (optionally go higher for legs, like 15-20, if you really hate life) slow, controlled, smooth, non-bouncing reps in a group of exercises that work all of your major muscles with literally no rest (or as little as physically possible - set it up ahead of time) in between exercises.



E.g.



Squats immediately followed by stiff-legged deadlifts immediately followed by shoulder presses immediately followed by pullups/chinups immediately followed by bench press immediately followed by rows immediately followed by curls immediately followed by a triceps exercise immediately followed by calves immediately followed by abs.



About halfway through that sequence (if you do it continuously), ALWAYS observing strict, controlled form for a decent number of reps for a challenging weight, you WILL vomit if you aren't used to it.



And if you don't vomit, you're not doing it right. Also, some people have literally lost consciousness, so be careful and work up a tolerance to this. I would wager that it's demanding enough that it might well kill somebody sufficiently out of shape or with a pre-existing heart condition.

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  • MajorBiggsMajorBiggs Member UncommonPosts: 709

    First day of my weight training last semester, I wasn't used to all the weights and stress/pressure. I was about to puke, but I didn't.

    I just collapsed on the floor and had my weight lifting friendbuddy pour water on my face for about 10 minutes. Then I went inside and fell asleep.

    One of the worst feelings i've ever had..i wanted to die lol

  • BoozbazBoozbaz Member Posts: 1,918
    Originally posted by MajorBiggs


    First day of my weight training last semester, I wasn't used to all the weights and stress/pressure. I was about to puke, but I didn't.
    I just collapsed on the floor and had my weight lifting friendbuddy pour water on my face for about 10 minutes. Then I went inside and fell asleep.
    One of the worst feelings i've ever had..i wanted to die lol
    I can relate.



    A few years back I was sick with the flu but I continued to work out anyways. There I was in the gym, surrounded by hot university students. I begian to feel light headed and lost track of time, then my throat started doing "the gack dance". So I promptly left, as soon as I was outiside the back door I blacked out and landed in the snow.



    Definitly not fun, sometimes humiliating.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    Doing more than 30 pushups at one time is very damaging to your shoulders.

    And when I worked out for the first time in about a year, 6 months ago, I puked...I had just gotten done with some lunges and was sitting down because I felt my stomache tying itself in a knot, then a guy knocked on the door and I opened it, just as he started to ask me a question I said "I'll be right back, hold that thought" ...and I went and heaved in the bathroom...I came out, felt great, and finished my workout.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • BoozbazBoozbaz Member Posts: 1,918
    That's interesting Draenor. Maybe puking is a good way to avoid blacking out....

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    I don't know about that, but it's a great way to relieve stomache aches =)

     

    It's weird though, because it was the first time that I ever threw up from exercise.  I played football for years, and went through some of the most stenuous workouts of my life in those years, but never once threw up...and then it happened just from lifting weights.  I think it had more to do with what I ate, and how close to my workout I ate it, than how hard I was working. 

     

    By the way, I was eating a chicken dip with some crackers =)

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    I think it was to how much/what you ate and the workout. Maybe putting pressure on your stomach, kinda like when your in a pool. Anyway, that is some pretty brutal training. Lets just hope the movie is just as brutal (in a good way) as the training.

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  • LanmoragonLanmoragon Member Posts: 994
    Originally posted by Draenor


    Doing more than 30 pushups at one time is very damaging to your shoulders.
      And why's that?
  • El_BortoEl_Borto Member Posts: 5
    That would interest me, too.
  • UploadUpload Member Posts: 679
    Originally posted by Lanmoragon

    Originally posted by Draenor


    Doing more than 30 pushups at one time is very damaging to your shoulders.
      And why's that?

     

    Avoid doing dips on the floor (sometimes called reverse pushups). Dips done this way are meant to exercise the muscles on the back of your arms (the triceps), but most of the stress is inside the shoulder joint. If you aren't careful, you can cause major injury to a small joint inside the shoulder. This injury shows up as a deep pain inside the shoulder joint, or the inability to lift up your arm. Ordinary pushups will work the triceps muscles without the danger of doing dips on the floor.

    From: http://www.everybody.co.nz

  • mehhemmehhem Member Posts: 653
    Well no wonder those guys are so ripped.  My workout isn't that crazy, but I do a circuit as well.  Currently I use the Abs Diet Online trainer, and it works pretty good. 
  • LanmoragonLanmoragon Member Posts: 994
    Originally posted by sven101

    Originally posted by Lanmoragon

    Originally posted by Draenor


    Doing more than 30 pushups at one time is very damaging to your shoulders.
      And why's that?

     

    Avoid doing dips on the floor (sometimes called reverse pushups). Dips done this way are meant to exercise the muscles on the back of your arms (the triceps), but most of the stress is inside the shoulder joint. If you aren't careful, you can cause major injury to a small joint inside the shoulder. This injury shows up as a deep pain inside the shoulder joint, or the inability to lift up your arm. Ordinary pushups will work the triceps muscles without the danger of doing dips on the floor.

    From: http://www.everybody.co.nz

     

    I know the dangers of those types of dips (actually almost hurt myself way back when I first started weight lifting ) but have personally never heard that doing more than 30 standard pushups is damaging to the shoulder.



    It would be cool to have some of the stuff they had to work with, like the rope resistance stuff.
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