Pointless hating, why people dont stop.

Garrik

This board is full of hating on this game and i cant understand why, ok so it was released as P2P and it wasnt worth P2P, they realised this and now its just Buy to play, which imo is a decent deal.

The game is better than most other F2P games out there, it has nice graphics and good game play for what it is, the game box itself is very cheap to and then you can play forever.

So whats with the contant bashing ?

I think its all due to many, many people being so hyped about this game pre-release (myself included) and then when actually getting to play the game they found it to be a dissapointment, well, such is life. Move on people, the game right now is worth the price of the box, so stop with these constant death threads and doom and gloom.

I can accept that some people will just flat out dislike the game, but really comparing it to alot of the other games that are out atm, they are not alot different (expect for a few) but for some reason, here at mmorpg.com people just like to beat on this game.

Iv recently read the reviews from gamespot etc and i cant belive how unfair they seemed to be against this game aswell, then again i never tend to agree with gamespot or big review sites reviews as alot of the time the person reviewing them has just got his head stuck up his arse.

The game was given a 2.7 on gamespot, wtf, it isnt THAT bad. Im not saying its supreme, the best in the world but i can say it deserves at least an average 5.

I guess, people are just suffereing from serious let down issues, which is understandable with the gameing year we had in 2006.

Garrik

Azure77

   Did you play any of Beta at all? Everything was broken , 2 weeks before release they broke it even more. They never improved on anything on Beta , they released an Alpha type patch which nerfed the game beyond anything ever done in MMORPG history. SOE's deletion of half thier classes in SWG comes close.

    Codemaster's CL lied to us , about how useful and how much of the game required Lens and other objects in the cash shop. They repeatly lied about trying to improve the game , The game's auction house was busted , Elementalist had some of thier skills missing , a few days before release.

     Archlord is a plauge of locust my friend. Run for the hills.

Garrik

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Originally posted by Azure77
   Did you play any of Beta at all? Everything was broken , 2 weeks before release they broke it even more. They never improved on anything on Beta , they released an Alpha type patch which nerfed the game beyond anything ever done in MMORPG history. SOE's deletion of half thier classes in SWG comes close.
    Codemaster's CL lied to us , about how useful and how much of the game required Lens and other objects in the cash shop. They repeatly lied about trying to improve the game , The game's auction house was busted , Elementalist had some of thier skills missing , a few days before release.
     Archlord is a plauge of locust my friend. Run for the hills.

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I played the beta for a while and i must admit i wasnt aware of the problems it had then, which is fair enough and i can understand your upset towards it due to that. But that doesnt make my point any less valid, all im trying to say with my post is, yes it may have been bad when it opened etc and it wasnt worth a monthly fee, but for what it is now, its worth it and it is getting harsh judgement due to its past mistakes. I just think people do this to often.

The game may have been bad in beta (iv seen worse) and things may have been done wrong, but right now Archlord is definatly not the worst game out on the market, infact its no where near, it will appeal to many and imo its better than a few P2P games, but due to its shabby start up, it gets criticised to death now.

Thats all im trying to say, im not looking to be flamed, im just trying to understand why people still cry over spilt milk.

Garrik

RudedawgCDN

 

There's constant bashing because it's a really bad game.

Yes there is a minority of players like gameloading and yourself that like it, but most players voted with their feet and left the game because it's just a piece of dog doo.

Yes it's free, but it's still dog doo.

RudedawgCDN

 

Gamespot gave the game a 2.7 hahahahahahahahaha

Man I tell yah, you say there's something wrong with Gamespot, I say and most players who have played the game - would agree with me, you don't have a clue what you are talking about bro.

Tell me why does every MAJOR mmo site pan AL?

Do you think there is honestly a conspiracy out there to kill the game?

It gets bad reviews because it's a BAD GAME.

If you like it great, but the majority of players like myself left because it's a very bad game - and very deserving of 2.7. Pretty graphics and customizable weapons and armour do not make a good game.

Gameloading

Originally posted by zigmund


 
There's constant bashing because it's a really bad game.
Yes there is a minority of players like gameloading and yourself that like it, but most players voted with their feet and left the game because it's just a piece of dog doo.
Yes it's free, but it's still dog doo.

Ohh..so thats why the community keeps growing more and more. that explains. You don't like the game zigmund, get over it already. its just a game.

Garrik

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Originally posted by zigmund
 
Gamespot gave the game a 2.7 hahahahahahahahaha
Man I tell yah, you say there's something wrong with Gamespot, I say and most players who have played the game - would agree with me, you don't have a clue what you are talking about bro.
Tell me why does every MAJOR mmo site pan AL?
Do you think there is honestly a conspiracy out there to kill the game?
It gets bad reviews because it's a BAD GAME.
If you like it great, but the majority of players like myself left because it's a very bad game - and very deserving of 2.7. Pretty graphics and customizable weapons and armour do not make a good game.

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If you one of those people that forms his opinions based on other peoples then that is very sad.

I fail to understand how Archlord gets a low rating when it is easily better than other f2p games such as SRO, Decidie, Knight online etc, i just dont see how they can possibly rate AL lower than those games.

The only reason it got hit so hard by reviewers was because everyone was expecting so much out of AL but it didnt come through like people thought it would and therefore got nailed for it. The other crappy f2p games that still get good reviews where never as hyped as AL was.

Either way try forming a better response next time, i never raved that AL was the god of all games, i was just stating that many other people who are put of by stupid reviews would probably like it.

ty

Garrik

Gameloading

Originally posted by zigmund


 
Gamespot gave the game a 2.7 hahahahahahahahaha
Man I tell yah, you say there's something wrong with Gamespot, I say and most players who have played the game - would agree with me, you don't have a clue what you are talking about bro.
Tell me why does every MAJOR mmo site pan AL?
Do you think there is honestly a conspiracy out there to kill the game?
It gets bad reviews because it's a BAD GAME.
If you like it great, but the majority of players like myself left because it's a very bad game - and very deserving of 2.7. Pretty graphics and customizable weapons and armour do not make a good game.

If you read the review, then you also know it was only played for 1 day, right?



Here, go ahead, these are the screenshots the gamespot reviewer made to go with the review:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/archlord/screenindex.html?page=1



The reviewer made it to a whooping level 7. thats right, level 7. he judges the entire game from a level that can be reached in 30 minutes. but hey, he made 2 characters, so wow, he my have spend 2 whole hours in the game.



There is no conspiracy out there to kill the game, nobody claims that. what some people, myself included, claim that people judge the game way to soon. the game doesn't start from level 1, simple as that.



it gets bad reviews because reviewers don't play the full game.



Most players hate the game? Really? Do you have anything to back that up? And no, posting "Look around you on forums and such" is not supporting your arguement, the most vocal are rarely the majority, .

LordCaptain

Because everyone needs to play WoW! There shouldn't even be other games and luckly we have a dedicated group of people trying to nicely inform you of this...

Garrik

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Originally posted by LordCaptain
Because everyone needs to play WoW! There shouldn't even be other games and luckly we have a dedicated group of people trying to nicely inform you of this...

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Lol unfortunatly this is so true.

KrymsonSykke

I agree with most of you with the fact of people bashing AL, when they haven't given the game a chace...I did play the beta and there was some problems that I felt could get fix but other than that it was alright...Then I left till it went f2p and it seems like codemaster has fix most of the problems and I think it is a better game than most f2p games out there...Like Decide for example the stupid game wouldn't even download a full client or there server is completely down...As for all you WOW player that know nothing else besides WOW broaden your mind alittle and don't bash something you have no unearthly idea about...I could bash WOW but I have never played the game...So for some of you show some respect...

brodius

I use to play wow, lineage, daoc. Most of us have lives, jobs, and children and don't live in our parents basements. Some people cann't afford the extra money to play games, apparently i can p2p if i wanted. Personally i think al is a supperb game, not the greatest, but it is better than guild wars, where noone is in the world unless your grouped. archlord is a great game for those of use that don't have time to waste on p2p and lose our money.

Ake_Gamer

I continue to enjoy AL and have been since release on Oct 3. Sure, we need Ep 2 yesterday but the politics are vicious, the PvP contagious and plenty of levelling to keep you busy. I'm thoroughly enjoying the ride and will until something more entertaining comes along.

vajuras

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/archlord?q=archlord

Archlord has a metacritic score of 43/100. The OP tries to make it sound like gamespy or whatever has it out for Archlord. The thing is those other f2p games aren't widely distributed like Archlord from what I can tell. I tried to pull up the metacritic for those and nothing came up. The cloest title is guild wars which has a metacritic of 89 for the prophecies campaign.

What's weird is that Rappelz, a f2p game, is much higher rated here on this site with an overall score of 8.0. also, I dont think Rappelz gets rated down like AL. at gamespot Rappelz got like 8.3 overall score. AL got like 5.2 from users at gamespot.

[edit]  Dunno whether or not Archlord is a seriously awful game deserving of its low scores I cant verify this myself. Codemasters should release some sort of free trial or free weekend to test things out for those of us too skeptical to go blow money on a 43/100 metacritic score upfront. I didnt get much time to mess with it in beta kinda got discouraged after a friend told me it blew but he said it might be worth looking it after it goes f2p

Gameloading

Anybody who actually played the game can easily tell the reviews of the game should be taken with a piece of salt. None of them were written by people who experienced the full game. not surprising, considering reviewers have a lot of games to review, but Gamespot's highest level character level 7 is an absolute JOKE.

vajuras

Interesting I started reading some of the reviews. looks like a lot of the reviewers are hating on it cause they hate being ganked. but they also complain about the grind. The full looting system in archlord sounds very awesome but its thought of grinding levels is what makes me sorta sick.

too bad they dont offer some sort of free trial I'd still try it actually....

Garrik

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Originally posted by vajuras
Interesting I started reading some of the reviews. looks like a lot of the reviewers are hating on it cause they hate being ganked. but they also complain about the grind. The full looting system in archlord sounds very awesome but its thought of grinding levels is what makes me sorta sick.
too bad they dont offer some sort of free trial I'd still try it actually....

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Ill dig up my buddy free trial key tomorrow for you mate, then you can judge the game for yourself =]. The game is probably the best F2P game out, it definatly beats Rappelz (i really liked Rappelz) etc, you have to be able to take some grind though, as it does have quite abit of a grind to it, but hey so do all games, they just cover it with higher level caps and even more pointless quests.

Garrik

vajuras

not exciting bout the prospect of grinding but would like to see how the full looting comes into play. yeah id appreciate the code I think I already got the client installed

vajuras

Originally posted by Gameloading

Anybody who actually played the game can easily tell the reviews of the game should be taken with a piece of salt. None of them were written by people who experienced the full game. not surprising, considering reviewers have a lot of games to review, but Gamespot's highest level character level 7 is an absolute JOKE.

sry to rehash this but I thought it a bit of a coincendence. other day noticed a review was posted of vanguard on the day it launched! now im no fan of that game but I think thats just not right to review an MMO as soon as it comes out. and given the rapid state of change MMOs go through I think they all warrant a revisit at some point. some magazines give only a preview and after a few months they give a real review. I do agree there is some line where crediability should come into play. and not 'too much weight' should be given to a review