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whats lotr have that vanguard dont, honestly asking!!

adderVXIadderVXI Member UncommonPosts: 727

Hello all, I wish to ask a simple question as im going to make a decision on what game to play for the next few years real soon.  Theres vanguard, which ive been following for years, and this one.  I like some of what i see in Lord of the Rings Online but im not sure if theres anything that really makes me want to play it.  Is there something that lotr will do that vanguard wont? I hear that lotr has farming, and i dont know why but that seems really cool to me. I mean like growing crops that is :) not "farming" like we know it.  I know this seems like a attempt at a flame fest but im honestly asking.  Thanks for any info!

P.S. I know that SOE is involved, i dont care :p

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

George Washington

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  • Archon2021Archon2021 Member Posts: 51
    Different crowd mainly, its shaping up to be about the same but in all actuallity, LotR sounds more interesting to me, being a fan.


    Archon @ Warhammer Alliance

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Monster Play and no playable evil races.


  • BesCirgaBesCirga Member Posts: 806

    I can't say this for certain because i haven't tried it yet, but i have tried every other turbine game released. what you (prolly) will experience in Lotro is very well thought through quests with a strong story with fun objectives. no kill X10 quests, or fedex delivery quest.

    Try AC1 or DDO, the quests are amazing...
  • adderVXIadderVXI Member UncommonPosts: 727

    ok cool, thanks for the info, what ya think the age group would be? im looking for a older crowd---33 here

    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

    George Washington

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Honestly, not a clue. I really hope it's not full of kiddies.


  • BlueMountainBlueMountain Member UncommonPosts: 147

    The only way to make an informed decision will be to either beta them or wait till they are released and try each.

    I think the hype level is too low on this game given the number of people who gave it a low score without adequate info.

     

    To dream, perhaps to be.

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Short answer:

     

    Boromir.  image

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • johnhartsonjohnhartson Member Posts: 19
    Not alot of kids will play this game cause its monthly payement, but still older people are the biggest kids most of the time. stuborness grows with age


  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641

    I believe that there will be lots of oldies in LOTRO, I post frequently on LOTRO european forums and there's even loads of over 50 years old people.

    If you are from Europe you might want to look at the current guild list: Kinship list
    There's probably list like that on US forums too.

    EDIT: here it is.

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  • sly220sly220 Member UncommonPosts: 606
    Im looking forward ot it cuz its not another EQ i mean really. vangaurd looks,sounds,seem like EQ, made by SOE, doubt there will me much differance between it and eq2 just an upgrade IMO. no matter if LOTRO is a complete wash i will not switch form eq2 to vangaurd seeing how it is just eq3. But im going to try out LOTRO Cant Wait something NEW!!

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  • DarktongueDarktongue Member Posts: 276



    Originally posted by johnhartson
    Not alot of kids will play this game cause its monthly payement, but still older people are the biggest kids most of the time. stuborness grows with age



    Yeah thats true , after all it stopped World of Warcraft becoming full of kiddies and prepubescent idiots. Uhu.

     

    /sarcasm off

  • ElapsedElapsed Member UncommonPosts: 2,329

    LotRO has better graphics.

    Vanguard is seamless (no zones), which is the major reason I like it.

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    Originally posted by BesCirga

    I can't say this for certain because i haven't tried it yet, but i have tried every other turbine game released. what you (prolly) will experience in Lotro is very well thought through quests with a strong story with fun objectives. no kill X10 quests, or fedex delivery quest.

    Try AC1 or DDO, the quests are amazing...


    If you want people to give this game a chance, for goodness sake do not bring up DDO! I'm hoping this game will be great in spite of DDO and AC2. I want this game to get Turbine back on the track they lay with AC, but left with the absolute train wrecks that were AC2 and DDO.


    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • tomfred81tomfred81 Member Posts: 31

    This is an excellent question, one that i myself was wrestling with a month ago-which game would I play? LOTRO or Vanguard Saga of Heroes?  And here is the answer: LOTRO doesnt have much that Vanguard doesnt-its really the other way around.  Vanguard has tons that LOTRO doesn't...allow me to elaborate

    LOTRO                                                                      Vanguard Saga of Heroes

    well followed story and lore, die hard fans                       new make believe world, die hard EQ fans

    4 races                                                                      19 races

    7 classes                                                                    15 classes

    1 continent                                                                3 continents

    big world                                                                    enormous world-biggest ever

    short-medium game lifespan                                          7 years of planned content

    die-durability penalty                                                     die, have to retrieve your corpse

    button mashing combat                                                combat system that will require thinking

    fast travel                                                                   intervals of fast travel, but mostly on your own

    no mounts at launch                                                    mounts at lvl 10, better mounts as u progress

    again no mounts at launch                                            flying mounts you can direct and fly anywhere

    again, just walking and fast travel                                   can craft and own boats (can name them too)

    no player housing                                                         player housing at launch (can sell wares in home)

    instanced                                                                    seamless world, can go anywhere u can see

    different PvP-monster play                                             straightforward PvP, but offer PvE servers too

    easier gameplay                                                            challenging gameplay, harder for a noob

    crafting system as well as adventuring                              spheres of adventuring, crafting, & diplomacy

    average character creation                                             many features to make your character unique


    Gosh, and this is just off the top of my head.  Lets just say from what I've "seen" of LOTRO over the last month I will not be playing LOTRO at launch.  Even looking at ebay last week, LOTRO beta keys were goin for like $40 and Vanguard beta keys for like $200 a shot and they had been bid on multiple times...im not even kidding.  Tells you something right there.  Vanguard is the game that I am going to invest my time and money in.  Preordered it from GameSpot the other day. :)








  • Solon22Solon22 Member Posts: 21

    tomfred81, I can easily turn that around from your biased opinion of making Vanguard looking superior. Fact is, just about all of us have biased opinions on the two of these games becaue we've already chosen which one we're going to play. Therefore, I'll give my comparison.

    Lord of the Rings Online has real lore and a well-defined story. Lord of the Rings was built to last, and already over 50 years since its creation, it's still going strong. This isn't your "average joe' kind of lore for an MMO. This is the best story you could possibly have with multiple layers of well thought out lore loved by fans across the globe. Vanguard story and lore was just made up to fit their needs. It follows no absolute path, so just like the lore in WoW, it will no doubt be warped multiple times throughout the game's lifespan which doesn't bode well for many fans.

    Classes

    Just because LotRO only has seven classes and Vanguard has 15 doesn't make Vanguard better. In fact, it just means more problems. Think about how difficult it will be to balance all those classes so no class overshadows another, and even then it sounds A LOT like EQ...and that is an extremely BAD thing. LotRO, on the other hand, has 7 well thought out CORE classes. This being every class has a direct purpose, and in groups, you will have a need for all of them. Each class in LOTRO will have much more time spent in each one making for much better story and lore for each class. So, do you want 15 hastily made look-alike classes comparable to EQ, or 7 well thought out, core classes resembling the true feel of Middle-Earth?

    Continents

    Vanguard can make all these promises about a bigger world, but that doesn't mean anything. One continent on Middle-Earth will be absolutely enormous. It is said that it will take 45 minutes just to get across the shire. Now that's a big world! Vanguard beta has been extremely negative, and they're having all kinds of problems, LoTRO seems to be having a very clean beta. This means to me that Turbine was prepared a lot more than its opponents.

    Game Life-Span

    This really has no place on a comparison chart. You cannot determine how long a game will last. If the game is a flop do you seriously think Vanguard will still go along with its supposedly 7 year plan? Of course not! They would be losing money! That's ridiculous to think that you're gauranteed 7 years. LotRO has no set plan because Turbine is practical. What we DO know is that there will be many expansions invovling the realeasing of the entire world of Middle-Earth little by little. This way they can put great detail into every inch of your game screen when you tread the plains of Rohan, venture through the thick forest of Mirkwood, and march through the great gate of Minas Tirith. It will certainly take a very long time to do this, and Turbine is determined to release all of this awesome content to us in due time allowing them to give us the highest quality product that they can create.

    Travel

    You cannot compare travel. Just because you get a mount earlier on doesn't mean anything. The reason mounts won't be coming at the release of LotRO is because Turbine is going to be devote a LOT of time into it to make the horses very well thought out. When you get mounts in LotRO you will be amazed at the work that Turbine put into it, and you'll be glad you waited too. There will be quick travel in LotRO as well, but you have to visit each place first, so you can't just skip all of the world that Turbine created (and why would you want to?) image

    Character Creation

    I won't go in-depth here, but character creation for LotRO is not your average creation. It's extremely well thought out. It even includes sub-races! Check out beta videos for more info on this, and you'll be stunned.

    Crafting

    The Devs of LotRO have stated that crafting will be vital to the world of Middle-Earth. I'm not sure if this still stands, but they also said a while back that the best items won't be aquired from raids, but from crafting. Now I don't know about you, but that sounds promising!

    PvP

    Turbine put much more thought into PvP that Sigil Games did to Vanguard. Turbine created a unique never-before-seen PvP gameplay to fit the Lord of the Rings lore and storyline. It's definitely not something you'll want to pass by. Vanguard will just have your average PvP mode which once you've done it once, you've done it a million times. I'll be happy to see something new in the PvP department to spice things up, while not creating a 1337 13-yr old environment that WoW's PvP system attracted.

    Gameplay

    You can't say one is harder than the other until you try it. Of course, LotRO reports have said that it's very basic early on so people can get a feel for the skills, but after that is escalates into more advanced gaming. I can't say anything for Vanguard since I haven't looked into this department much, but I"ll take timfred81's word for it that it's "challenging gameplay harder for a noob". Even if that's true, it doesn't sound very inviting for people just now getting started in MMO's, or the older crowd which won't be as familiar with MMO controls.

     

    And just because Vanguard keys go for more doesn't mean a thing. I would never buy a beta key for LotRO because Turbine has already said that everyone is going to get in that has signed up. So why bother? Plus, there's the matter of inflation. The cost of the beta keys probably has to do with how many people have been invited. It's all about supply and demand. So due to this easy equation, you can deduce that more beta keys have been released for LotRO. Perhaps because Turbine's servers are much more stable than Sygil's?

    Well, only time will tell which one is better I suppose.  image

  • evolutionistevolutionist Member Posts: 36

    the last two posts were very excellent and i enjoyed reading them though the latter seemed to have a little more sense (just a little). True the Vanguard looks amazing and i wouldnt want to pass it up but i think the game people will choose will be based on their opinion of which one is more appealing to them. I am thinking most people who are fans of Lord of the Rings no matter whether they read or watched the movies are going to try the MMORPG for LoTR because they love the way JRR tolkien and The movies are. But the non fans are most likely going to go for Vanguard cause it probly wont have all the lore and storyline that LoTR has. Its just a matter of opinion.

    Im going to play LoTR because i have read all the books watched the movies and just love everything about them. Its just an opinion.

    Their both going to be great games

  • RyowulfRyowulf Member UncommonPosts: 664

    Originally posted by Solon22
    tomfred81,
    I can easily turn that around from your biased opinion of making
    Vanguard looking superior. Fact is, just about all of us have biased
    opinions on the two of these games becaue we've already chosen which
    one we're going to play. Therefore, I'll give my comparison. Lord of the Rings Online has real lore and a well-defined
    story. Lord of the Rings was built to last, and already over 50 years
    since its creation, it's still going strong. This isn't your "average
    joe' kind of lore for an MMO. This is the best story you could possibly
    have with multiple layers of well thought out lore loved by fans across
    the globe. Vanguard story and lore was just made up to fit their
    needs. It follows no absolute path, so just like the lore in WoW, it
    will no doubt be warped multiple times throughout the game's lifespan
    which doesn't bode well for many fans.
    *The
    story is done. It ended with the ring falling at mount doom. You can
    play in a little time bubble, but that's it. The game will never move
    forward. Five years from now it will still be 'So I hear some hobbit is
    making his way to Mount Doom." "Wow he sure is taking his time."*

    *So built to last? No. Do you want to tell your own story or do quests
    to unlock little moives and watch someone else's story?*
    Classes Just
    because LotRO only has seven classes and Vanguard has 15 doesn't make
    Vanguard better. In fact, it just means more problems. Think about how
    difficult it will be to balance all those classes so no class
    overshadows another, and even then it sounds A LOT like EQ...and that
    is an extremely BAD thing. LotRO, on the other hand, has 7 well thought
    out CORE classes. This being every class has a direct purpose, and in
    groups, you will have a need for all of them. Each class in LOTRO will
    have much more time spent in each one making for much
    better story and lore for each class. So, do you want 15 hastily made
    look-alike classes comparable to EQ, or 7 well thought out, core
    classes resembling the true feel of Middle-Earth?
    *Look
    at Lotro classes on their site. There are ones that overshadow each
    other. Now maybe if they had 7 non-typcial classes that would be okay,
    but they aren't. There is nothing very special about them from what I
    have read.*

    *Vanguard is more like CoH, in that they have X number of core 'role'
    classes then many sub-classes within each. In CoH you can be a fire or
    ice tank. In vanguard you can be different types of warriors. They do
    they same role, but your game play in filling that role is different
    for each sub-class. That means its not as hard to balance and gives you
    more choices for making a unique character. How unique do you think
    your avatar is going to be in Lotro?*
    Continents Vanguard
    can make all these promises about a bigger world, but that doesn't mean
    anything. One continent on Middle-Earth will be absolutely enormous. It
    is said that it will take 45 minutes just to get across the
    shire. Now that's a big world! Vanguard beta has been extremely
    negative, and they're having all kinds of problems, LoTRO seems to be
    having a very clean beta. This means to me that Turbine was prepared a
    lot more than its opponents.
    *Of
    course it means something.  You can make a 5'x5' area take 45 mins
    to cross if you use pathing and force people to walk the whole thing.
    It also means Vanguard has 3 continents. You like asian theme? You are
    covered. Maybe you like the basic european flare or maybe you'd like to
    try something egyption. You can do that. When you have a very simple game its a lot easier to be 'clean'. I'll give yout that.*
    Game Life-Span This
    really has no place on a comparison chart. You cannot determine how
    long a game will last. If the game is a flop do you seriously think
    Vanguard will still go along with its supposedly 7 year plan? Of course
    not! They would be losing money! That's ridiculous to think that you're
    gauranteed 7 years. LotRO has no set plan because Turbine is practical.
    What we DO know is that there will be many expansions invovling the
    realeasing of the entire world of Middle-Earth little by little. This
    way they can put great detail into every inch of your game screen when
    you tread the plains of Rohan, venture through the thick forest of
    Mirkwood, and march through the great gate of Minas Tirith. It will
    certainly take a very long time to do this, and Turbine is determined
    to release all of this awesome content to us in due time allowing them
    to give us the highest quality product that they
     can create.
    *Sounds
    great doing things that characters in a book have already done. As for
    lifespan. The most content, the most depth a players who started out of
    beta is ever going to have is at launch. You think they can make in 6
    months would be equal to what they did in 3-6 years and without having
    to support a live game? How long has DDO been out? They got one new
    race that is just a color and stat adjustment from elves. Where are
    half-orcs and half-elves and monks and druids?*
    *Maybe years later with a bunch of expansions the game will have a lot more stuff. What do you while you wait?*
    Travel You
    cannot compare travel. Just because you get a mount earlier on doesn't
    mean anything. The reason mounts won't be coming at the release of
    LotRO is because Turbine is going to be devote a LOT of time into it to
    make the horses very well thought out. When you get mounts in LotRO you
    will be amazed at the work that Turbine put into it, and you'll be glad
    you waited too. There will be quick travel in LotRO as well, but you
    have to visit each place first, so you can't just skip all of the world
    that Turbine created (and why would you want to?) image
    *Trying
    to make a pitfall sound nice, doesn't change what it is. We know mounts
    will be in vanguard. We have no idea if or when mounts will be in
    lotro. I guess what you are saying is people should wait until turbine
    gets around to adding all this great stuff years from now before
    playing. What's the point of a great mount 3 years from now if I
    started playing from the start?*

    *oh and walking there first and then being able to zone there, is crap.
    At least in wow you can get on a ship or balloon before it zones or
    better yet ride a griffon across the world. I haven't heard that you
    get on a horse and it runs to your location. Its more like click and
    you are there right?*
    Character Creation I
    won't go in-depth here, but character creation for LotRO is not your
    average creation. It's extremely well thought out. It even includes
    sub-races! Check out beta videos for more info on this, and you'll be
    stunned.
    *I
    checked out the video, I wasn't stunned. Are you saying those sub-races
    have any appearence effort besides your typcial hair color choices or
    simple crap like that? Do they have stat differences? If I play a Took
    hobbit will be taller than other hobbits? Will people be able to glance
    at him and say, oh a Took? How is it not like your average 4 slider,
    hair, beard, scar crap that is in WoW? The review done makes it sounds
    pretty bland. I believe he said you can't change size and you use a
    "Mr. Patato head" slider choice. Sounds like you aren't going in-depth
    because there is no depth.*
    Crafting The
    Devs of LotRO have stated that crafting will be vital to the world of
    Middle-Earth. I'm not sure if this still stands, but they also said a
    while back that the best items won't be aquired from raids, but from
    crafting. Now I don't know about you, but that sounds promising!
    *It sounds promising in Vanguard too. So at best its a draw.*
    PvP Turbine
    put much more thought into PvP that Sigil Games did to Vanguard.
    Turbine created a unique never-before-seen PvP gameplay to fit the Lord
    of the Rings lore and storyline. It's definitely not something you'll
    want to pass by. Vanguard will just have your average PvP mode which
    once you've done it once, you've done it a million times. I'll be happy
    to see something new in the PvP department to spice things up, while
    not creating a 1337 13-yr old environment that WoW's PvP system
    attracted.
    *Granted
    mpvp might be fun. However you have no attachment to your monster. You
    didn't pick what it looks like or its name even. Will you even be able
    to play or will the npcs be camped? At best its a cute little toy to
    play with when you get bored.*
    Gameplay You
    can't say one is harder than the other until you try it. Of course,
    LotRO reports have said that it's very basic early on so people can get
    a feel for the skills, but after that is escalates into more advanced
    gaming. I can't say anything for Vanguard since I haven't looked into
    this department much, but I"ll take timfred81's word for it that it's "challenging gameplay harder for a noob".
    Even if that's true, it doesn't sound very inviting for people just now
    getting started in MMO's, or the older crowd which won't be as familiar
    with MMO controls.
    *Gameplay
    is hard to judge. In fact from the sounds of it I'd take Conan's game
    play over either of these 'click a special' crap fest.

    *The biggest down side to Vangurd which you didn't mention is the death
    pentalty. Although from what I have read the more reward a monster
    might give the worse the death pentalty is. But still you get debt or
    lose exp. Whereas with Lotro you just have to pay for gear repair I
    believe was said. I like Spellborns approach by rewarding you for
    staying alive.*
      And just
    because Vanguard keys go for more doesn't mean a thing. I would never
    buy a beta key for LotRO because Turbine has already said that everyone
    is going to get in that has signed up. So why bother? Plus, there's the
    matter of inflation. The cost of the beta keys probably has to do with
    how many people have been invited. It's all about supply and demand. So
    due to this easy equation, you can deduce that more beta keys have been
    released for LotRO. Perhaps because Turbine's servers are much more
    stable than Sygil's? Well, only time will tell which one is better I suppose.  image


  • tomfred81tomfred81 Member Posts: 31
    Solon22, an interesting and well thought out post....but let me say a few things in response:  I did nothing biased in my first post...I didn't say any game was better than the other...all I did was list some of the differences between LOTRO and Vanguard and then drew my preferrential and personal opinion based on the data.  I was merely answering the initial question about what are some differences in the two games.  You, however, are correct that other individuals may interpret the data any way they want and come to a different conclusion.

    Let me also say this; I myself am a huge LOTR fan.  I've read all of the books multiple times (read them for the first time in 7th grade) and own all of the special edition LOTR movies.  I enjoy them very much...If you notice in my first post, I said "from what i've "seen" over the last month about LOTRO"   Lets just say I know what I'm talking about when it comes to LOTRO.  You said you have heard that the LOTRO beta has been very crisp and clean...well thats fine if you have heard that...but does that mean the game is fun compared to other games out there?  One has to wonder.  It's not so much that i'm a vanguard fanboy but rather I have been severely dissapointed thus far with LOTRO.  It is because of these things that I will be purchasing Vanguard Saga of Heroes instead of LOTRO.  Everyone, of course, can make their own decision.



  • ravex5ravex5 Member UncommonPosts: 64

    I would much rather play LOTRO than Everquest: Saga of Heroes. After watching the videos and the info we have LOTRO sounds and looks like it will be fun to play and Vanguard sounds and looks will be a chore to play just like EQ was. From what I have seen there is no distinct difference between Vanguard and EQ except for a few cosmetic differences such as housing and flying mounts which dont really have any impact on gameplay.

  • TheTookeTheTooke Member Posts: 55


    Originally posted by sly220
    Im looking forward ot it cuz its not another EQ i mean really. vangaurd looks,sounds,seem like EQ, made by SOE, doubt there will me much differance between it and eq2 just an upgrade IMO. no matter if LOTRO is a complete wash i will not switch form eq2 to vangaurd seeing how it is just eq3. But im going to try out LOTRO Cant Wait something NEW!!


    Vanguard is not made by SOE, and does not follow the EQ storyline, hense can not be concidered a sequel. That being said, if Vanguard turns out to be a failure (doubtful) and LOTRO turns out to be successful, then I might just give it a shot. It isn't one that I will be rushing to the stores to try. I wasn't that impressed with Turbines changes that they made to DDO, so I would wait a few months and patches before trying LOTRO.

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  • sly220sly220 Member UncommonPosts: 606



    Originally posted by ravex5

    I would much rather play LOTRO than Everquest: Saga of Heroes. After watching the videos and the info we have LOTRO sounds and looks like it will be fun to play and Vanguard sounds and looks will be a chore to play just like EQ was. From what I have seen there is no distinct difference between Vanguard and EQ except for a few cosmetic differences such as housing and flying mounts which dont really have any impact on gameplay.



    Yup im with you EQ was a huge chore at times it wasnt even fun well most the time but i was an addict so didnt quite for a long time. How ever i do believe that the main differances will be casual and hard core so to speak. I in my older years dont have 6 hrs to gain 1 lvl anymore so the simplicity of LOTRO attracks me im not down with learning a new game OH wait Starting over in EQ3 i currently play EQ2 great game but i has become a chore and ive cease to play for a few weeks now love the game but im just at that point were its no fun as of now till expansion comes out i think. Love the game just dont have the time anymore... sorry was ranting i think. Oh and i hated corpse runs God those Made me so mad back in the day LOL So have fun tracking your body down and binding your souls to be close to your body god for bid that you get 1hr or so out from your bind spot and die that would suck in you HUGE WORLD image

    LOTRO=casual family guy/gal

    EQ3 i mean Vangaurd-Hard core player

    Just my personal opinion though image

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by adderVXI
    Hello all, I wish to ask a simple question as im going to make a decision on what game to play for the next few years real soon.  Theres vanguard, which ive been following for years, and this one.  I like some of what i see in Lord of the Rings Online but im not sure if theres anything that really makes me want to play it.  Is there something that lotr will do that vanguard wont? I hear that lotr has farming, and i dont know why but that seems really cool to me. I mean like growing crops that is :) not "farming" like we know it.  I know this seems like a attempt at a flame fest but im honestly asking.  Thanks for any info! P.S. I know that SOE is involved, i dont care :p

    whats lotr have that vanguard dont, honestly asking!!

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  • GianaGiana Member Posts: 26
               Gonna try them both, im hearing good beta buzz from each of these games, although atm im more excited about vanguard, but i will definetly give LOTR a shot.
  • sly220sly220 Member UncommonPosts: 606



    Originally posted by TheTooke




    Originally posted by sly220
    Im looking forward ot it cuz its not another EQ i mean really. vangaurd looks,sounds,seem like EQ, made by SOE, doubt there will me much differance between it and eq2 just an upgrade IMO. no matter if LOTRO is a complete wash i will not switch form eq2 to vangaurd seeing how it is just eq3. But im going to try out LOTRO Cant Wait something NEW!!


    Vanguard is not made by SOE, and does not follow the EQ storyline, hense can not be concidered a sequel. That being said, if Vanguard turns out to be a failure (doubtful) and LOTRO turns out to be successful, then I might just give it a shot. It isn't one that I will be rushing to the stores to try. I wasn't that impressed with Turbines changes that they made to DDO, so I would wait a few months and patches before trying LOTRO.


    It is however on the Station pass for SOE products interesting.. it is being made by the producer of EQ so yes it can be considered a sequal thanks facts are facts my friend. And im the same way about vangaurd you are with LOTRO so we are even there i dont trust it. but good luck to you image

    sorry EQ guys name is Brad McQuaid forgot to add that image

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  • TheTookeTheTooke Member Posts: 55


    Originally posted by sly220
    Originally posted by TheTooke Originally posted by sly220Im looking forward ot it cuz its not another EQ i mean really. vangaurd looks,sounds,seem like EQ, made by SOE, doubt there will me much differance between it and eq2 just an upgrade IMO. no matter if LOTRO is a complete wash i will not switch form eq2 to vangaurd seeing how it is just eq3. But im going to try out LOTRO Cant Wait something NEW!!

    Vanguard is not made by SOE, and does not follow the EQ storyline, hense can not be concidered a sequel. That being said, if Vanguard turns out to be a failure (doubtful) and LOTRO turns out to be successful, then I might just give it a shot. It isn't one that I will be rushing to the stores to try. I wasn't that impressed with Turbines changes that they made to DDO, so I would wait a few months and patches before trying LOTRO.



    It is however on the Station pass for SOE products interesting.. it is being made by the producer of EQ so yes it can be considered a sequal thanks facts are facts my friend. And im the same way about vangaurd you are with LOTRO so we are even there i dont trust it. but good luck to you image
    sorry EQ guys name is Brad McQuaid forgot to add that image

    It is on the station pass because SOE is distributing and hosting the game, not developing the game. You saying that it is a sequel just because the producer of EQ developed this game is like saying that all of Steven Spielburg's movies are exactly alike because he produced them, which is, no offence, idiotic. I'm not saying that you have to like this game, or play it for that matter, but get your facts together before you tell me that "facts are facts".

    You have to do the research before you do the work. SNAP!

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