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They Should Lower The Drinking Age In USA

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    believe me, jsut because your tried in court as an adult. DOES NOT mean you should have adult privilages in society,
    i agree the the whole if you can die you cn drink thing, i do, but this isnt 30 years ago anymore. kids are more reckless and stupid. teenagers obtaining alcohol easier would NOT be cool.

    It's not supposed to be cool...alcohol impairs the judgment of 30 year olds just as much as 14 year olds. This "cool" association with alcohol needs to just go away.
    I wish prohibitionists were running the country, though. I could expand my business and make great money.

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  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Originally posted by modjoe86
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    believe me, jsut because your tried in court as an adult. DOES NOT mean you should have adult privilages in society,
    i agree the the whole if you can die you cn drink thing, i do, but this isnt 30 years ago anymore. kids are more reckless and stupid. teenagers obtaining alcohol easier would NOT be cool.
    It's not supposed to be cool...alcohol impairs the judgment of 30 year olds just as much as 14 year olds. This "cool" association with alcohol needs to just go away.
    I wish prohibitionists were running the country, though. I could expand my business and make great money.
    LMAO QFE


  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    believe me, jsut because your tried in court as an adult. DOES NOT mean you should have adult privilages in society,
    i agree the the whole if you can die you cn drink thing, i do, but this isnt 30 years ago anymore. kids are more reckless and stupid. teenagers obtaining alcohol easier would NOT be cool.
    I was implying that laws need to be consistant. But whatever.  I also didn't say to make it legal for teenagers to buy the alcohol, but to use it.  Of course, that wouldn't make a huge difference.  And I already said before, that it is simple to buy alcohol anywhere.  It wouldn't make access to it easier, it would just make it legal to have access to it.  Also, I said that it should be done over time.  You can't all of a sudden just change laws, that doesn't work.  But if it was legalized over time, that would be a good thing.


    perhaps, but. i think it should just stay the way it is, enless there is some drastic change to make things different.

    also have to take into account that drunk driving and the more often occuances of kids with Alcohol is different where you are...


  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697
    For some reason I was just reminded of this by your post joe, but about a week ago some guy was driving a minivan with one headlight out in the kroger parking lot.  He put his head out the window and yelled "Im bout to get me some LSD!"  Then slammed into a light post.  It was funny shit.


  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Most kids my age that can smoke/drink does.

    One of my friends told me that his mom asked him to try a chocolate
    Swisher Sweets. A few people I know smoke with their parents.



    One girl at my school last year died of alchohol poisioning, basically
    everyone in my 8th grade class drank on a regular basis.  Oh, and
    my parents have a beer/wine stash in our basement.



    The drinking age dosen't really stop kids from drinking beer, it just stops them from buying it. :P




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  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    believe me, jsut because your tried in court as an adult. DOES NOT mean you should have adult privilages in society,
    i agree the the whole if you can die you cn drink thing, i do, but this isnt 30 years ago anymore. kids are more reckless and stupid. teenagers obtaining alcohol easier would NOT be cool.
    I was implying that laws need to be consistant. But whatever.  I also didn't say to make it legal for teenagers to buy the alcohol, but to use it.  Of course, that wouldn't make a huge difference.  And I already said before, that it is simple to buy alcohol anywhere.  It wouldn't make access to it easier, it would just make it legal to have access to it.  Also, I said that it should be done over time.  You can't all of a sudden just change laws, that doesn't work.  But if it was legalized over time, that would be a good thing.


    perhaps, but. i think it should just stay the way it is, enless there is some drastic change to make things different.

    also have to take into account that drunk driving and the more often occuances of kids with Alcohol is different where you are...

    Umm.. What did you mean by the last post?  I live in texas.  There are tons of drunk drivers, and tons of kids with alcohol..  Yet it is enforced to the extreme where I live for some reason.. Hell, I thought texas was lenient with things of that sort when I moved here...


  • lardmouthlardmouth Member Posts: 701
    At what age it's legal to sell alcohol to a person should be a state or local issue.   DUI punishments should be even more severe.  If you're DUI, you have knowingly endangered the public.  Your ass can walk to work for the rest of your life, for all I care.  Sixteen year olds want to drink legally?  Cool, cool.  But, your butt is going to do some time in a cell, and you're going to lose your license till your 21.  My father lost his eldest brother (an uncle I never got the chance to know) because some scumbag decided they could it make it home after some drinks.  I remember times I'd sit and listen to my grandmother talk about my Uncle.  She'd mostly smile at the memories. But, at times I'd catch the trailing off of her words, and the distance in her eyes, as the feelings of loss and anger began to percolate up from that tragic night.  You knowingly get behind a ton and more of metal, while under the influence, you should pay dearly.  I mean dearly. 
  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    If it were my own personal choice, the drinking and driving age would be 19 or even 20.  Technically, in the US, since the age of majority for most states is 18, all adult privilages should begin at that age, drinking, driving, voting, gun ownership, self-insurance, selective service, inability to be claimed as a dependant, etc.



  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Originally posted by lardmouth
    At what age it's legal to sell alcohol to a person should be a state or local issue.   DUI punishments should be even more severe.  If you're DUI, you have knowingly endangered the public.  Your ass can walk to work for the rest of your life, for all I care.  Sixteen year olds want to drink legally?  Cool, cool.  But, your butt is going to do some time in a cell, and you're going to lose your license till your 21.  My father lost his eldest brother (an uncle I never got the chance to know) because some scumbag decided they could it make it home after some drinks.  I remember times I'd sit and listen to my grandmother talk about my Uncle.  She'd mostly smile at the memories. But, at times I'd catch the trailing off of her words, and the distance in her eyes, as the feelings of loss and anger began to percolate up from that tragic night.  You knowingly get behind a ton and more of metal, while under the influence, you should pay dearly.  I mean dearly. 
    I agree completely with harsh laws against intoxicated drivers, and technically it is a state issue.  What the government does to keep the states in line with its own ideals is it cuts all grants to the state untill they change their laws. Thats how it has always been.


  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    believe me, jsut because your tried in court as an adult. DOES NOT mean you should have adult privilages in society,
    i agree the the whole if you can die you cn drink thing, i do, but this isnt 30 years ago anymore. kids are more reckless and stupid. teenagers obtaining alcohol easier would NOT be cool.
    I was implying that laws need to be consistant. But whatever.  I also didn't say to make it legal for teenagers to buy the alcohol, but to use it.  Of course, that wouldn't make a huge difference.  And I already said before, that it is simple to buy alcohol anywhere.  It wouldn't make access to it easier, it would just make it legal to have access to it.  Also, I said that it should be done over time.  You can't all of a sudden just change laws, that doesn't work.  But if it was legalized over time, that would be a good thing.


    perhaps, but. i think it should just stay the way it is, enless there is some drastic change to make things different.

    also have to take into account that drunk driving and the more often occuances of kids with Alcohol is different where you are...

    Umm.. What did you mean by the last post?  I live in texas.  There are tons of drunk drivers, and tons of kids with alcohol..  Yet it is enforced to the extreme where I live for some reason.. Hell, I thought texas was lenient with things of that sort when I moved here...



    i was just saying that your occurenses of alcohol related incidents will differ from mine due to the state change, like, what were used to is different, i live in Wisconsin lol...


  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953
    while were on a fun subject, we should talk about if Weapons should be legalized!!! lol


  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!

    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.





    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).

    image
    --When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
    --In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
    --The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
    --CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.

  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    while were on a fun subject, we should talk about if Weapons should be legalized!!! lol
    Yes, but to Carry you need to pass a psych testimage


    image
    --When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
    --In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
    --The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
    --CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.

  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!

    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.



    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).


    yes, but that teenager doesnt get a weapon or explosives until he is in the heat of battle. or in training. if he goes all "loopy" what happens?...people around him are ganna take him out. what happens if the kid goes all "loopy" on alcohol....enless the correct cirumstances all we can do is call 911...if i see somone driving drunk, and i could just "halt" thier actions myself. i would do so, but we cant. otherwise i would be ok having teenagers drink. but i cant touch somone underage....


  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239



    Originally posted by Xexima



    Originally posted by LostGrace
    To 14 for  wine.

    To 18 for hard licor.

    You cannot go to school drunk (duh).

    Atleast make it leagle for holidays.

    Half of us (teenager) have smoked pot. All most all of us (even honor students) drink wine and/or beer.

    So yea I just had to get that out of my head.

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    lmao, I'm an all AP student who scored a 5 on my world history ap test, and I smoke (more than just tobacco) and drink all the time.  Of course all my teachers tend to get pissed at me because I get the highest grades on all the tests in the class, yet still seem to have the lowest average :)

    Homework FTL


    ya i did the same thing except no smoking anything but tabacco, i scored a 5 on AP world and US history test, 4 on the AP pysch. 5 on AP lit, 4 on AP language.

    I even did some of those tests hungover, but im entirely clean now.

    and my total GPA is a 3.8

    but being clean just makes it slightly easier for me.

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    98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.

  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by Vergeltung
    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by LostGrace
    To 14 for  wine.

    To 18 for hard licor.

    You cannot go to school drunk (duh).

    Atleast make it leagle for holidays.

    Half of us (teenager) have smoked pot. All most all of us (even honor students) drink wine and/or beer.

    So yea I just had to get that out of my head.

    image
    lmao, I'm an all AP student who scored a 5 on my world history ap test, and I smoke (more than just tobacco) and drink all the time.  Of course all my teachers tend to get pissed at me because I get the highest grades on all the tests in the class, yet still seem to have the lowest average :)

    Homework FTL

    ya i did the same thing except no smoking anything but tabacco, i scored a 5 on AP world and US history test, 4 on the AP pysch. 5 on AP lit, 4 on AP language.

    I even did some of those tests hungover, but im entirely clean now.

    and my total GPA is a 3.8

    but being clean just makes it slightly easier for me.


    im one of that 2% :)


  • PyscoJuggaloPyscoJuggalo Member UncommonPosts: 1,114

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!

    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.



    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).


    yes, but that teenager doesnt get a weapon or explosives until he is in the heat of battle. or in training. if he goes all "loopy" what happens?...people around him are ganna take him out. what happens if the kid goes all "loopy" on alcohol....enless the correct cirumstances all we can do is call 911...if i see somone driving drunk, and i could just "halt" thier actions myself. i would do so, but we cant. otherwise i would be ok having teenagers drink. but i cant touch somone underage....

    And that teenager can make ADULT DECISIONS OF LIFE AND DEATH CONSEQUENCE IN A SPLIT SECOND on who is a civilian and who is an enemy but not on an adult decision like the consumption of alcohol, which may lead to drunk driving or may not?


    image
    --When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
    --In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
    --The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
    --CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.

  • LostGraceLostGrace Member Posts: 380
    What they need to do is make it so you lose you drivers licences permanetly for DUI. Like in France. They do not drive drunk over there because if you have a DUI you lose your licences permanetly.


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  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Originally posted by Vergeltung
    Originally posted by Xexima
    Originally posted by LostGrace
    To 14 for  wine.

    To 18 for hard licor.

    You cannot go to school drunk (duh).

    Atleast make it leagle for holidays.

    Half of us (teenager) have smoked pot. All most all of us (even honor students) drink wine and/or beer.

    So yea I just had to get that out of my head.

    image
    lmao, I'm an all AP student who scored a 5 on my world history ap test, and I smoke (more than just tobacco) and drink all the time.  Of course all my teachers tend to get pissed at me because I get the highest grades on all the tests in the class, yet still seem to have the lowest average :)

    Homework FTL

    ya i did the same thing except no smoking anything but tabacco, i scored a 5 on AP world and US history test, 4 on the AP pysch. 5 on AP lit, 4 on AP language.

    I even did some of those tests hungover, but im entirely clean now.

    and my total GPA is a 3.8

    but being clean just makes it slightly easier for me.


    lol, yeah, I got "loopy" before a retired AP us history test that was going to be my final exam.  My grade of a 70/80 (was a 113 when ajusted to the 100% scale) was only surpassed by my brother's 72/80 (was 115)

    And you know that statistically a 60 = 5, right? 

    My gpa is at a 3.75  and my class rank is 531/756 :)
    Too many fuckin overachievers at my school.


  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953
    i sucked at school, im doing ALRIGHT in college. just to much MMO lol


  • LostGraceLostGrace Member Posts: 380

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    i sucked at school, im doing ALRIGHT in college. just to much MMO lol
    Just curouse but what are you majoring in?


    image

  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!

    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.



    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).


    yes, but that teenager doesnt get a weapon or explosives until he is in the heat of battle. or in training. if he goes all "loopy" what happens?...people around him are ganna take him out. what happens if the kid goes all "loopy" on alcohol....enless the correct cirumstances all we can do is call 911...if i see somone driving drunk, and i could just "halt" thier actions myself. i would do so, but we cant. otherwise i would be ok having teenagers drink. but i cant touch somone underage....

    And that teenager can make ADULT DECISIONS OF LIFE AND DEATH CONSEQUENCE IN A SPLIT SECOND on who is a civilian and who is an enemy but not on an adult decision like the consumption of alcohol, which may lead to drunk driving or may not?

    by the time the punk would get into war, id think he would be ok to handle the situation. but were not talking about kids who have gone through military training. these are punks who just skipped class and are looking for something "fun" to do...


  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    Originally posted by LostGrace
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    i sucked at school, im doing ALRIGHT in college. just to much MMO lol
    Just curouse but what are you majoring in?


    i did two years criminal justice. but i swiched to Administrative Assistant


  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo



    Originally posted by Joshua69



    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!


    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.




    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).




    yes, but that teenager doesnt get a weapon or explosives until he is in the heat of battle. or in training. if he goes all "loopy" what happens?...people around him are ganna take him out. what happens if the kid goes all "loopy" on alcohol....enless the correct cirumstances all we can do is call 911...if i see somone driving drunk, and i could just "halt" thier actions myself. i would do so, but we cant. otherwise i would be ok having teenagers drink. but i cant touch somone underage....



    And that teenager can make ADULT DECISIONS OF LIFE AND DEATH CONSEQUENCE IN A SPLIT SECOND on who is a civilian and who is an enemy but not on an adult decision like the consumption of alcohol, which may lead to drunk driving or may not?


    Yes, and do you know why?

    Because before that teenagers is even allowed to touch a gun, he has been through LOADS of training. a teenager can't make that decision. a military trained teenager can.

  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Joshua69
    Originally posted by PyscoJuggalo
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by outfctrl
    Well, you see my age here.  I grew up in NY state and the drinking age was 18 back in 69.  I believe if you are old enough to fight and die for your country, you should be able to smoke and drink also. 

    Just use common sense!!!

    There is a bit of diffrence between that. fight and die for your country is your own choice. you put yourself in danger, and you alone. however, when driving drunk, you put other people in danger as well.they didn't ask for it. and like somebody else mentioned, many have unsafe sex when drunk.

     

    I don't really see how those two can be compared to be honnest.



    I disagree with that...


    But without getting flamed to all hell (by explaining why I disagree, just guess don't make me openly break the social taboos regarding nationalism), if you are going to trust a hormonal teenager with explosives and an assault rifle, you might as well trust them with mind altering substances.

    With regard to DUI's and Unsafe sex, adults make the same bad decisions while under the influence as well.  Alcohol shuts down the reasoning functions of your brain first, does not matter if you are 18-124 (at a 125 you reach leet status Alpha class Godmode).


    yes, but that teenager doesnt get a weapon or explosives until he is in the heat of battle. or in training. if he goes all "loopy" what happens?...people around him are ganna take him out. what happens if the kid goes all "loopy" on alcohol....enless the correct cirumstances all we can do is call 911...if i see somone driving drunk, and i could just "halt" thier actions myself. i would do so, but we cant. otherwise i would be ok having teenagers drink. but i cant touch somone underage....

    And that teenager can make ADULT DECISIONS OF LIFE AND DEATH CONSEQUENCE IN A SPLIT SECOND on who is a civilian and who is an enemy but not on an adult decision like the consumption of alcohol, which may lead to drunk driving or may not?

    by the time the punk would get into war, id think he would be ok to handle the situation. but were not talking about kids who have gone through military training. these are punks who just skipped class and are looking for something "fun" to do...

    What we are talking about is the fact that at 18 years old you can be drafted into the military.  It has nothing to do with volentarily joining the military and then going through training and what not, but has to do with being drafted.


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