They hyped the card game to their playerbase by promising in game rewards by redeeming points.
They didn't disclose the number of points needed to buy even the smallest rewards before offering the cards for sale.
They sold card sets to people expecting to be able to get one of the baubles. It turns out that they are so expensive that you have to buy hundreds of dollars worth of card sets to up to $2,100 to get them.
I SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone who bought the sets before this was disclosed had any idea that the numbers would work out like that.
They are SO going to get sued if they don't change that. Just as SOE was going to if they didn't offer TOOW refunds. it's extremely unethical, and it proves that Blizzard is no better than SOE, and maybe is worse, they think WoW is a license to print money, and they are acting like it.
Yes, I do think that this marks the beginning of the fall of WoW. Maybe it won't start manifesting itself anytime soon, but when WoW really starts declining this will be the watershed event people point to and say, "That is what started it". Granted WoW isn't going to fall to NGE levels of subs anytime soon (or even within years), but I think getting burned like this (and the word of mouth that will spread) will take the bloom off the rose.
The expansion could be the second hit, after how long it's been in development it better be better than sliced bread...
Just whining. That's all it is.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by Wildcat84 Here is the deal:
They hyped the card game to their playerbase by promising in game rewards by redeeming points.
They didn't disclose the number of points needed to buy even the smallest rewards before offering the cards for sale.
They sold card sets to people expecting to be able to get one of the baubles. It turns out that they are so expensive that you have to buy hundreds of dollars worth of card sets to up to $2,100 to get them.
I SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone who bought the sets before this was disclosed had any idea that the numbers would work out like that.
They are SO going to get sued if they don't change that. Just as SOE was going to if they didn't offer TOOW refunds. it's extremely unethical, and it proves that Blizzard is no better than SOE, and maybe is worse, they think WoW is a license to print money, and they are acting like it.
Yes, I do think that this marks the beginning of the fall of WoW. Maybe it won't start manifesting itself anytime soon, but when WoW really starts declining this will be the watershed event people point to and say, "That is what started it". Granted WoW isn't going to fall to NGE levels of subs anytime soon (or even within years), but I think getting burned like this (and the word of mouth that will spread) will take the bloom off the rose.
The expansion could be the second hit, after how long it's been in development it better be better than sliced bread...
Just whining. That's all it is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by Wildcat84 Here is the deal:
They hyped the card game to their playerbase by promising in game rewards by redeeming points.
They didn't disclose the number of points needed to buy even the smallest rewards before offering the cards for sale.
They sold card sets to people expecting to be able to get one of the baubles. It turns out that they are so expensive that you have to buy hundreds of dollars worth of card sets to up to $2,100 to get them.
I SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone who bought the sets before this was disclosed had any idea that the numbers would work out like that.
They are SO going to get sued if they don't change that. Just as SOE was going to if they didn't offer TOOW refunds. it's extremely unethical, and it proves that Blizzard is no better than SOE, and maybe is worse, they think WoW is a license to print money, and they are acting like it.
Yes, I do think that this marks the beginning of the fall of WoW. Maybe it won't start manifesting itself anytime soon, but when WoW really starts declining this will be the watershed event people point to and say, "That is what started it". Granted WoW isn't going to fall to NGE levels of subs anytime soon (or even within years), but I think getting burned like this (and the word of mouth that will spread) will take the bloom off the rose.
The expansion could be the second hit, after how long it's been in development it better be better than sliced bread...
Just whining. That's all it is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi . Oh yeah.. that wraps me up in a tight little bow, doesn't it.
Guess the fact that i don't play it, and have never played any other war/starcraft game makes me a fanboi too.
Anyone who rushed out and bought thousands of cards to get some ingame trinket that is useless is an idiot. Anyone bitching about it is just whining.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by ShaydeAnyone who rushed out and bought thousands of cards to get some ingame trinket that is useless is an idiot. Anyone bitching about it is just whining.
Exactly what I was saying Shayde. You get what you pay for, and in this case, bitching and imaginary items.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now." Boba Fett
Originally posted by kaibigan34 The best item you can get is a new mount. Not an epic mount. A normal mount. A turtle. The turtle prize card is a random find in the boxes.
There is a turtle! Makes a mad dash to ebay....
Oops, I guess I know which category of idiot or whiner I belong.
It all started with a lantern, a sword, and a trap door...
Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by Wildcat84 Here is the deal:
They hyped the card game to their playerbase by promising in game rewards by redeeming points.
They didn't disclose the number of points needed to buy even the smallest rewards before offering the cards for sale.
They sold card sets to people expecting to be able to get one of the baubles. It turns out that they are so expensive that you have to buy hundreds of dollars worth of card sets to up to $2,100 to get them.
I SERIOUSLY doubt that anyone who bought the sets before this was disclosed had any idea that the numbers would work out like that.
They are SO going to get sued if they don't change that. Just as SOE was going to if they didn't offer TOOW refunds. it's extremely unethical, and it proves that Blizzard is no better than SOE, and maybe is worse, they think WoW is a license to print money, and they are acting like it.
Yes, I do think that this marks the beginning of the fall of WoW. Maybe it won't start manifesting itself anytime soon, but when WoW really starts declining this will be the watershed event people point to and say, "That is what started it". Granted WoW isn't going to fall to NGE levels of subs anytime soon (or even within years), but I think getting burned like this (and the word of mouth that will spread) will take the bloom off the rose.
The expansion could be the second hit, after how long it's been in development it better be better than sliced bread...
Just whining. That's all it is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi . Oh yeah.. that wraps me up in a tight little bow, doesn't it.
Guess the fact that i don't play it, and have never played any other war/starcraft game makes me a fanboi too.
Anyone who rushed out and bought thousands of cards to get some ingame trinket that is useless is an idiot. Anyone bitching about it is just whining. Really? It's just people expressing concern over a money grab . But how does that make their concerns any different than those expressed over NGE daily here , A year after it took place ? Are you saying you yourself are just whining ? You're breaching on hypocrisy now bud .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
decline of wow? plz~ everytime an expansion hits the stores.. even the ppl that quit b4 will run back to the game for the new content and this is just an assumption purely based on the trend of blizzard games... but diablo? sc? wc? <----- ppl still play these games wat makes you think ppl will stop playin wow other big mmorpgs like UO and lineage all went for a pretty decent span of a couple years you think wow will die down more easily than those games? i think not
and to the original poster:
i think you're just sour that you cant get the coolest trinket cus you're not rich enough to just grow some balls.. like you said, they're not worth anything in game.. if someone decides they wanna be cool.. let em be what gives you the right to whine and complain for them
Thing about this, people do stupid things. Look at how many people paid $20 to get the SWG Starter kit, for the ingame item. If people want to spend hundreds of dollars to get enough points to get some trinkets, so what!
It is their business, it is not like Blizzard and Upperdeck is putting a gun to their head and say to them, "buy the freaking cards." Even look at ebay, murloc pet codes, characters up for sale, its a person choice to pay money for it, not Blizzards. Like I brought the regular version of World of Warcraft game, because I could less about special pet to follow me around, same will go for Burning Crusade. It comes down to people choices of what they want to do with thier money.
Originally posted by Malickiebloo IMO blizzard is far worse than sony , They have made far more profit off WOW , Than SOE has on all of their titles over the past 3 years . Yet have not released one expansion at this point . They have also not come through on many promises they themselves have made toward their playerbase . At this point polish shouldn't mean squat IMO , They have seriously taken that profit and ran with it . Just look at their expansion due out this holiday season . Two new races , With one being nothing more than a reskin of a previous . What happened to the Seige warfare they promised ?
As for this article , And people say SOE leads people on like bunnies with carrots . LMAO ........
2100$ for something that gives zero benefit to your character . HAHAHAHHAHA
*blip* troll detector active! *blip*
Back to main topic: You getin-game items from the cards in 2 ways. One is with actually cards, that could be in ANY booster. So, in theory, you buy one booster, 4.50 euros, and you bring home a hyppogryph pet or a turtle mount.
The points are there for consolations. So you did not found a in-game item in your booster? at least you get some point that you will be able to use in our shop. Some stuff costs little (and are little gimmick, like the wallpaper) and other costs more. Of course this things are aimed at card gamers fanatics, what you thought eh? it is a CCG after all...
Do you know how many boosters a Magic: the gathering fan will buy each year? noooo? well think they release what? 3 expansions a year? with hundreds if not thousands of new cards? and of course the fans go and buy those boosters and they get NO additional rewards for it.
So, the in-game items has always been intended as a bonus thing, NOT THE MAIN thing, that is a CCG, not a WoW promotional advertisement!
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Basically these trinkets were meant as a bonus to people that were getting the cards to actually play the card game but a small group of people bought the cards with the sole purpose of getting the bonus and also without knowing exactly how to get the bonus and complained about it.
And somehow this is Blizzard's fault?
You just gotta love troll logic.
Personally I hope WoW dies in a couple years. Just make 3 more exansions after Burning Crusade and be done with it. Thats it. DONE. Then make either WoW2 or WC4 to continue the progressive story of the Warcraft universe.
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Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi .
Oh yeah.. that wraps me up in a tight little bow, doesn't it.
Guess the fact that i don't play it, and have never played any other war/starcraft game makes me a fanboi too.
Anyone who rushed out and bought thousands of cards to get some ingame trinket that is useless is an idiot. Anyone bitching about it is just whining.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
It wouldent suprise me if some retards just bought those boxes for those trinkets, god.
Dont they have enough money with 5 million subs?
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
Exactly what I was saying Shayde. You get what you pay for, and in this case, bitching and imaginary items.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
7 mil & NO...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
There is a turtle! Makes a mad dash to ebay....
Oops, I guess I know which category of idiot or whiner I belong.
It all started with a lantern, a sword, and a trap door...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So that explains your position on SOE perfectly , you're a blizzard Fan-boi .
Oh yeah.. that wraps me up in a tight little bow, doesn't it.
Guess the fact that i don't play it, and have never played any other war/starcraft game makes me a fanboi too.
Anyone who rushed out and bought thousands of cards to get some ingame trinket that is useless is an idiot. Anyone bitching about it is just whining.
Really? It's just people expressing concern over a money grab . But how does that make their concerns any different than those expressed over NGE daily here , A year after it took place ? Are you saying you yourself are just whining ? You're breaching on hypocrisy now bud .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Still waiting, to top it all off... its not even mentioned anymore.
everytime an expansion hits the stores.. even the ppl that quit b4 will run back to the game for the new content
and this is just an assumption purely based on the trend of blizzard games... but
diablo? sc? wc? <----- ppl still play these games
wat makes you think ppl will stop playin wow
other big mmorpgs like UO and lineage all went for a pretty decent span of a couple years
you think wow will die down more easily than those games? i think not
and to the original poster:
i think you're just sour that you cant get the coolest trinket cus you're not rich enough to
just grow some balls.. like you said, they're not worth anything in game..
if someone decides they wanna be cool.. let em be
what gives you the right to whine and complain for them
Thing about this, people do stupid things. Look at how many people paid $20 to get the SWG Starter kit, for the ingame item. If people want to spend hundreds of dollars to get enough points to get some trinkets, so what!
It is their business, it is not like Blizzard and Upperdeck is putting a gun to their head and say to them, "buy the freaking cards." Even look at ebay, murloc pet codes, characters up for sale, its a person choice to pay money for it, not Blizzards. Like I brought the regular version of World of Warcraft game, because I could less about special pet to follow me around, same will go for Burning Crusade. It comes down to people choices of what they want to do with thier money.
Lol, what did y'all get bored bitching on the SWG 'Veterans' board?
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
*blip* troll detector active! *blip*
Back to main topic: You getin-game items from the cards in 2 ways. One is with actually cards, that could be in ANY booster. So, in theory, you buy one booster, 4.50 euros, and you bring home a hyppogryph pet or a turtle mount.
The points are there for consolations. So you did not found a in-game item in your booster? at least you get some point that you will be able to use in our shop. Some stuff costs little (and are little gimmick, like the wallpaper) and other costs more. Of course this things are aimed at card gamers fanatics, what you thought eh? it is a CCG after all...
Do you know how many boosters a Magic: the gathering fan will buy each year? noooo? well think they release what? 3 expansions a year? with hundreds if not thousands of new cards? and of course the fans go and buy those boosters and they get NO additional rewards for it.
So, the in-game items has always been intended as a bonus thing, NOT THE MAIN thing, that is a CCG, not a WoW promotional advertisement!
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
they should just make the game free and the chances of decline will either go away, decrese or they will get some more time to improve
im just saying
lmfao
Basically these trinkets were meant as a bonus to people that were getting the cards to actually play the card game but a small group of people bought the cards with the sole purpose of getting the bonus and also without knowing exactly how to get the bonus and complained about it.
And somehow this is Blizzard's fault?
You just gotta love troll logic.
Personally I hope WoW dies in a couple years. Just make 3 more exansions after Burning Crusade and be done with it. Thats it. DONE. Then make either WoW2 or WC4 to continue the progressive story of the Warcraft universe.