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  • One company to bind them all . . .

    A far more interesting idea would be like something in Ready Player One where there were many different worlds and each world was its own MMO.

    Your character would go to one world or another and strength (level) would be the same in all of them although each would have its own abilities and theme.

    Of course for that to happen a few of the publishers would need to get together and sell a one-access pass kind of thing. They could still have some competition by divvying some of the money based on where players actually spent time.

    Maybe after Apple buys them all we'll see something like that :)
    ScotAsm0deus
  • Shadow Of War: microtransactions!

    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    Scorchien said:
    Sovrath said:
    Talonsin said:



    I understand game developers are working and need to make money but at what point are the drivers for the company (the investors and CEO) getting greedy?

    Activision - NET Revenue last year over 3 billion
    EA - NET revenue last year of almost a billion

    When will it ever be enough? 
    fine, I'll just, um, yeah ... I'll just leave this here ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/052303.asp

    and this ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/020703.asp
    People need to learn and educate thenselves on this subject ..So tried of that type of post ..

      ATVI and EA are both publicly owned .. you would think that would be enough for people to understand but .........here we are again
    Should public companies then get a pass and never have their ethics or morality questioned just because they're public?

    It sounds like you and Sorvath are trying to say that their public nature exempts them from being thought of as greedy... or that greed doesn't exists in a public company context. Is that about the size of it?
    There's a difference between "noting how things are" and standing there cheering them on whenever they do something people don't like.

    So yeah, do you scrutinize every investment, mutual fund, retirement fund that you have invested in and make sure they are "making just enough money"?

    Because, though some people only invest in socially conscious companies, most people don't as it's just easier to set up your monthly investment or have your stock broker or bank take care of everything.

    It sounds ridiculous when people say "when is it enough money" for a publicly traded company. Because even if they follow every law and rule they still exist to make investors money. It's like complaining that water is wet or the sun is hot.




    As a matter of fact when I had my investor hat on I did make a choice many decades ago to go with a mutual fund that was created by my credit union specifically with ethical concerns in the forefront. Appropriately enough the family of funds is called Ethical Funds :) It's done quite well for me.

    But that's neither here nor there when I wear my consumer hat. It's a different hat. It's the one I wear when I shop for anything and the one that helps me chose for example, where I buy my computer components when I'm building or upgrading because I'm always looking for bang for the buck and those bucks can easily be many more if I buy from the wrong places.

    Gaming prices to me - and to most of us here since this isn't an investment forum, are also something that I use my consumer hat for. In this context yeah, you bet your ass that there is such a thing as enough dollars that need to be spent beyond which point I feel like the greedy bastards are gouging. As a consumer I could give less of a shit whether it's Scrooge McDuck profiting from the gouging or my aunt Felicia - it's just fucking gouging to me.
    Well, first of all that's awesome.

    It still doesn't change the fact that publicly traded companies have to make money. That's what they do. And they are going to jump on any "train" that takes them to "we'reinthemoneyville".

    As far as "my consumer hat" I'm ok with Aunt Felicia making money as she needs it for retirement.

    I suppose I don't have that "omg I'm being gouged" reaction. More like the "meh, it's just not worth it" reaction.


    It doesn't have to me "OMG" or "meh" - there's a lot of room in the middle. Heck as much as I dislike loot boxes, I can play a game that has them if I can totally ignore them without adverse game play effect. But I'm not a fan of long grinds so if a grind is made extra obnoxious to add incentive to buy more in a game that is already buy to play, no fucking way I will tolerate that - that's just a deal breaker.

    It's also why I avoid F2P games unless they have a sub option that gets rid of artificial game play inconveniences. It's routine and understandable why F2P games structure their inconveniences the way they do. But the same shit is creeping into B2P games. I draw the line there without needing to say "OMG."
    MadFrenchieGdemami
  • Shadow Of War: microtransactions!

    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    Scorchien said:
    Sovrath said:
    Talonsin said:



    I understand game developers are working and need to make money but at what point are the drivers for the company (the investors and CEO) getting greedy?

    Activision - NET Revenue last year over 3 billion
    EA - NET revenue last year of almost a billion

    When will it ever be enough? 
    fine, I'll just, um, yeah ... I'll just leave this here ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/052303.asp

    and this ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/020703.asp
    People need to learn and educate thenselves on this subject ..So tried of that type of post ..

      ATVI and EA are both publicly owned .. you would think that would be enough for people to understand but .........here we are again
    Should public companies then get a pass and never have their ethics or morality questioned just because they're public?

    It sounds like you and Sorvath are trying to say that their public nature exempts them from being thought of as greedy... or that greed doesn't exists in a public company context. Is that about the size of it?
    There's a difference between "noting how things are" and standing there cheering them on whenever they do something people don't like.

    So yeah, do you scrutinize every investment, mutual fund, retirement fund that you have invested in and make sure they are "making just enough money"?

    Because, though some people only invest in socially conscious companies, most people don't as it's just easier to set up your monthly investment or have your stock broker or bank take care of everything.

    It sounds ridiculous when people say "when is it enough money" for a publicly traded company. Because even if they follow every law and rule they still exist to make investors money. It's like complaining that water is wet or the sun is hot.




    As a matter of fact when I had my investor hat on I did make a choice many decades ago to go with a mutual fund that was created by my credit union specifically with ethical concerns in the forefront. Appropriately enough the family of funds is called Ethical Funds :) It's done quite well for me.

    But that's neither here nor there when I wear my consumer hat. It's a different hat. It's the one I wear when I shop for anything and the one that helps me chose for example, where I buy my computer components when I'm building or upgrading because I'm always looking for bang for the buck and those bucks can easily be many more if I buy from the wrong places.

    Gaming prices to me - and to most of us here since this isn't an investment forum, are also something that I use my consumer hat for. In this context yeah, you bet your ass that there is such a thing as enough dollars that need to be spent beyond which point I feel like the greedy bastards are gouging. As a consumer I could give less of a shit whether it's Scrooge McDuck profiting from the gouging or my aunt Felicia - it's just fucking gouging to me.
    MadFrenchieYashaXGdemami
  • Shadow Of War: microtransactions!

    YashaX said:
    Year after year video game sales increase.  That means all these crying about MT, Dlc or whatever crying topic is cool are the minority. 

    The little babies who find something to cry about anytime a new games comes out are more of a cancer to video games than MT could ever be.  The whiners are just desperate for approval and need upvotes to make them feel better. 

     It's clear MT, Dlc and any other fake crying topics they bring up for any new game aren't going away.  So if you can't handle that fact find a new hobby it's that simple.  You may have been told by your elementary teachers or parents or read to many SJW training manuals but no you won't be changing anything here. 
    Can we add a GFY button? I don't think WTF or LoL covers cases like this.
    Clearly shows the mentality on that side of the fence doesn't it?
    thunderCMadFrenchieNildenGdemami
  • Shadow Of War: microtransactions!

    Scorchien said:
    Sovrath said:
    Talonsin said:



    I understand game developers are working and need to make money but at what point are the drivers for the company (the investors and CEO) getting greedy?

    Activision - NET Revenue last year over 3 billion
    EA - NET revenue last year of almost a billion

    When will it ever be enough? 
    fine, I'll just, um, yeah ... I'll just leave this here ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/052303.asp

    and this ...

    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/03/020703.asp
    People need to learn and educate thenselves on this subject ..So tried of that type of post ..

      ATVI and EA are both publicly owned .. you would think that would be enough for people to understand but .........here we are again
    Should public companies then get a pass and never have their ethics or morality questioned just because they're public?

    It sounds like you and Sorvath are trying to say that their public nature exempts them from being thought of as greedy... or that greed doesn't exists in a public company context. Is that about the size of it?
    MadFrenchieNildenYashaXGdemami