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By offering extremely large cash shops and pay to win features.immodium said:Todays MMO's prove they can do all that even without a mandatory subscription. Or even a box price.Panther2103 said:Except MMO's are completely different. You were paying monthly to get support for the game for as long as it is up. Server costs, keeping a dev team working on the game with patches and updates, and basically paying for any support the game is still getting. With other games you don't usually get continued support unless it is released in the form of an expansion or DLC.immodium said:In the past publishers charged you full price for a game then if you wanted to play beyond the first 30 days you had to pay an additional fee.Shodanas said:So, i pay 60 euros for a AAA game with locked content and i have to be thankful for the fact that i "only" need 24 hours of game play in order to unlock said content ?
I'm honestly surprised at the MMO community being in shock at a practice they've been supporting (Not loot boxes/microtransactions, the idea that it's ok to keep charging a gamer a fee to play a game they've already purchased) for nearly 20 years.
Bye bye, Gazillion. It's glorious to finally see the F2P market crumble.
It wouldn't be either of those because they didn't HAVE to mention that. Just information that wasn't provided. You don't have to keep your sub if you aren't happy. I haven't subbed to that game in 5 years due to being unhappy with it.Gorwe said:Xxxusernametakenxxx said:Guess that fair. But he didn't lie because you thought something different or came to a conclusion that was never mentioned.Gorwe said:Xxxusernametakenxxx said:They have been on this crusade against swtor for over SIX YEARS not sure anyone expected anything else.ByrgenarHofen said:So no actual lie then, just a sensationalist thread name, got it.Deewe said:It was a lie by omission. They intentionally did not mention there would not be anymore a West coast server after the server merge.ByrgenarHofen said:What lie did the lead producer tell exactly?
Read the OP, does not say there, just a rant, read the post in the link, but again, nothing in the OP show's which part of what is said in the linked post is a lie?
Fake News, MMO style.
Then to keep your characters names you had to have an active subscription.
Finally the APAC players are hindered by the game latency.
All in all APAC players and some West coast with sub optimal connectivity paid for finally not being able to play smoothly anymore.
It's not a crusade, it's a fact. He lied by omission and, no, anyone that thinks that playing in 200ms environment and in 50ms environ is the same...yeah, right.
In fact, I don't crusade against anything. I just have my principles which, should you get on the bad side of them-good luck!, I am not willing to stretch out for such tiny causes. And I'm not even a stickler for rules! Imagine others!
Fraud then? Misdirection?
These things are punishable in direct / tele sales.
That really depends though. You cannot just leave it at a specific patch and never introduce new content. Which is why I'm saying it could be like OSRS where they just create new content for the vanilla base. Instead of evolving over time into the easy face roll the current game is, they could evolve it to stay difficult and retain the players who want that experience.Forgrimm said:The further they deviate from Vanilla, the less point there will be in doing it at all. The people who want this want an authentic vanilla experience, not some re-imagined project with new content and changes and other added features. If this project fails to capture the Vanilla experience, people will just go back to the private servers and the entire thing will have been a waste.