Slapshot1188

Bad games can try to run, but they can't hide.   No matter how you wordsmith your excuses, you WILL be held accountable for your product.

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  • New Ship - Introductory Price of $850

    Erillion said:
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    Know what tier that long range cobra comes in?

    70 pounds sterling. Kinda a long cry away from 850 dollars eh but nice attempt to cherry pick
    As i said .. getting the Long Range Cobra Mk III at 5000 pounds sterling is completely optional. But someone did. 

    As is getting the Pioneer at 850 $ .. also completely optional. You could have paid 20 $ back in the day and pick up the  Pioneer in game after launch day for in game money only.


    Have fun
    How far after launch day?  Just a day?  A week? A year?
    The advantage isn't the ship itself, it's the time gap between someone buying the ship and someone earning it in game.   The people who start out with a fleet of ships will be dominating the Plebs at start. They will dominate combat or trade or exploration...
     The only question is how long.
    It will be a capital ship. I assume that the crew will pool its resources to get it.

    Without fixed facts it is hard to say how long it takes. At this time we can only make an educated guess.

    Based on experience in other space games - if i compare it with Elite or EVE - i would say .. a week, if the crew works together. I assume that the crew played Alpha and Beta and has experience with the economic system.


    Have fun

    A week to earn a ship that costs $1000?  I’d say that’s highly unlikely and honestly game breaking.  Yay for everyone be having pocket capital ships...
    MrMelGibson
  • New Ship - Introductory Price of $850

    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    Know what tier that long range cobra comes in?

    70 pounds sterling. Kinda a long cry away from 850 dollars eh but nice attempt to cherry pick
    As i said .. getting the Long Range Cobra Mk III at 5000 pounds sterling is completely optional. But someone did. 

    As is getting the Pioneer at 850 $ .. also completely optional. You could have paid 20 $ back in the day and pick up the  Pioneer in game after launch day for in game money only.


    Have fun
    How far after launch day?  Just a day?  A week? A year?
    The advantage isn't the ship itself, it's the time gap between someone buying the ship and someone earning it in game.   The people who start out with a fleet of ships will be dominating the Plebs at start. They will dominate combat or trade or exploration...
     The only question is how long.
    CoticDizismasgelKefoRedempMrMelGibson
  • New Ship - Introductory Price of $850

    Herase said:
    If you can explain how buying a fleet if ships with LTI is not an advantage... they will have these ships on day one while everyone else will have the starter..
    To me there is no doubt it's buying advantages... the only question is how big of an advantage (how long would it take to grind a fleet of ships and buy insurance).

    But if you want to wait for release to call them out that's your prerogative.  In my experience it's too late at that point. 
    From what I see looking at ships on the page, the ships only become as strong as the components you put in, which you will only be able to buy in-game, if my memory serves me well. 

    Think warframe, you only  become stronger if you mod/fuse, increase mod capacity and alter the polarity of slots, the frame it'self isn't powerful.

    I can understand the line of thinking because it's something many companies do and seem like the logical answer considering the costs, but it has to be taken into consideration that these ships aren't normal ships, they're more interactive and customizable than what you would get in most space games.

    I don't think it's as black and white with big being better and small being crap because some big ships only role is to transport people. 


    So the edge case that some large ships are just for transport somehow negates the huge edge of starting with a ship that will take others a year of play to purchase?

    That seems like faulty logic.

    Even saying that a purchased ship still has to be furnished in game is not valid because other folks would have to work a year for the ship and then still have to work more to furnish it.

    Listen... I have 3 accounts and love Wing Commander as one of my all time greatest gaming experiences... Folks want to pledge $10,000... go for it.  But trying to argue that there isn't a huge advantage is just silly.

    Thats why all I want is SQ42... watching the scene with Gary Oldman gave me a woody. There I don't care if someone else buys themselves a 6 months advantage.



    Dizisma
  • New Ship - Introductory Price of $850

    Kefo said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Redemp said:
    MaxBacon said:

    If you don't see a difference I can't help you, it's the difference of getting money to put back into attempting to make a great game vs getting money for profit and fill coffers.


      I understand the point you're trying to make. I just disagree with it .. they aren't missing deadlines, adding new features, and selling addon's because they are a benevolent company. They are doing it for profit, whether some of that is funneled back into the game or not is moot. This content bloat is profit driven, of course there is a pedestal for people to defend the additional "Please donate for this" funding additional features but ultimately they are profiting. It's far to easy to demonize traditional publishing methods, but they turned games out.. I see CIG's SC venture as the publisher counter part in this "crowd funding era". We don't have to agree, that's just my perspective.
    I think they are absolutely doing it because they are benevolent .

    just not good at management. 

    I pride myself is being able to read people very well, tests I have taken back that up. When I watch Chris Roberts on multiple interviews both with journalists and as PR marketing plans, I read that he does have a desire to do this project, that he does want to do what people are asking.
    I also read that he discovered that he is good at raising money, and that he is good with ideas, he is not good with execution, I dont think he knows that about himself just yet.


    How could he possibly not know that he is bad at execution when he ran his last game company into the ground and had to be bailed out by Microsoft?


    Or watched his Wing Commander movie?  
    Heh... I actually like the musical score for it... but the movie was pretty bad... even for Freddie Prinze Jr.

    MrMelGibsonDizisma
  • New Ship - Introductory Price of $850

    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    The Consolidated Outlands Pioneer will go on sale Friday, October 27th. It will have an introductory price of $850 and be in limited quantities.

    https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/spaceship-prices

    Hangar ready will see the price increase by $100 or thereabout.
    Flight ready will see the price increase again by another $100 or thereabout.

    Get yours while it's cheap. This ship is the much hyped "game changer", do not miss out!!


    Please change title... very misleading.  I was all set to buy my $850 ship but in reality it is $1050 to be flight ready.

    Stop getting my hopes up.

    I'll wait for the Winter Sale-A-Thon and hopefully catch a "Buy 3 pixel ships for the Price of 2 sale"

     
    will you really or do you find stretching the truth to be more ethical then selling overpriced virtual items?
    There is no such thing as stretching truth.  Something is either true or false.

    lol.....
    ok so....

    will you really do it or are do you consider lie by you  to be more ethical then selling overpriced virtual items?

    is that better?

    meaning do you feel given a consumer the OPTION to buy or not buy a virtual item is more unethical than biting untrue sarcasm?
    Where did I say they were unethical?  Is your attempt to put those words in my mouth an example of this lying you mention?
    Im a fan of CR.  I still have my original signed pre-order of Wing Commander and the hat that came with it.  You defenders need to relax a bit.  To quote Stg. Hulka " LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS"

    fair enough, ironic how I dont even have the game
    I have no problem poking fun at, or God forbid... genuinely criticizing companies or games that I like.  I'm really focused on SQ42 so in general I don't really care about selling pixel ships for $1000 in the MMO.  My main objection is the fundamental issue of selling in game advantages for out of game  money.  If someone wants to give $1000... or $100,000 that's on them... but if they are buying advantages for that money I think it's a different discussion.


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