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  • Activision Granted Patent that Pairs Players to Increase Microtransaction Purchases - General News


    gervaise1 said:


    SBFord said:

    You know, it's one thing that we "understand" we're being manipulated by microtransactions, but it's a whole 'nother ballgame when we see it so blatantly placed before our eyes in cold black and white. 

    Hopefully, this will turn the tide. I wonder what, if any, impact recent legal maneuvers overseas with regard to loot chest odds and so forth will have on this which obviously wasn't present in 2015?

    Of course, we also have to be careful in assuming they'll actually use the patented process. It's possible that things have progressed beyond its capabilities over 2 years after filing.


    The impact of overseas - as in not US - actions are "mainly" around how games are marketed to "younger" players.

    Now as is pointed out you its "impossible" to enforce this but it does influence how a game can be marketed, what sites can be used to advertise the game on etc. - which they can control.  Same deal for 3rd party retailers as well. And one thing that games need to thrive is publicity.

     And potentially there could be legal issues:   

    Prosecution: you should have stopped minors playing etc. etc.
    Defence: impossible, we had no way of knowing.
    Prosecution: you should have ensured you didn't pair an adult (with high disposable income!) with a minor (no disposable income of their own).
    Defence: impossible we had no way of knowing who was playing.
    Prosecution: Yes you said. You knew and accepted that there might be minors playing and went ahead anyway with promoting your loot crates. Prosecution rests. 



    Government Response: If you have no way of verifying the age of your customers, you may not offer any services or transactions that may include a minor.
    That's why adult sites use a simple check box or have you put in your birth date to verify age.  After all, who would lie about a thing like that?
    I would! Almost to the point where those "year wheels" don't go far enough back.  :'(


    ConstantineMerus
  • Activision Granted Patent that Pairs Players to Increase Microtransaction Purchases - General News

    Scot said:
    I posted in the last couple of days again reminding gamers that this process of raking in as much as possible never stops, a day or so pass and the latest iteration of that process is here.

    Gamers need to understand there will be no end to this direction until boycott and or legal action stop it.
    Unfortunately the number who become self aware are vastly less than those who will continue to purchase and I don't see this changing anytime soon.
    Gdemami
  • Activision Granted Patent that Pairs Players to Increase Microtransaction Purchases - General News





    Why does it matter if a game has microtransactions or not? Is the game good? Then why punish yourself from playing a good game? I play Destiny 2 on console and its amazing and a ton of fun...I'm not gonna self harm myself by not playing it just because of some loot boxes or whatever. I'm gonna buy Star Wars Battlefront 2, because I love star wars and its looking to be another great game.

    Too many people rage against microtransactions and DLC...and the vast majority of time they'd have no effect on the persons game.

    Oh well, I hope those people leave the gaming genre so people who actually LIKE games can enjoy games without a bunch of whiners complaining about them.


    And wasn't there a pro-microtransaction article just recently praising loot boxes and microtransactions? It was for battlefront 2 lol

    http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/468796/star-wars-battlefront-ii-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-the-love-the-loot-box-michael-bitt#latest

    Just like that article on this site, I learned to stop worrying about things like this and just enjoying the game itself. Now I have far more fun in all kinds of games.



    Well, that certainly is one approach to life, learning to ignore when others are manipulating you.

    Just not one I prefer as it in large part is how things got this way in the first place. 

    Remember when all of this cash shop / microtransaction stuff started people cautioned against the "slippery slope?"

    We're almost at the bottom of the hill now. ;)
    ConstantineMerusGdemamiMadFrenchieAvarix
  • Elysium 'Private Server' Shuts Down Temporarily Due to Financial Shenanigans - World of Warcraft - M

    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    laserit said:
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    Torval said:

     People just don't care about right and wrong anymore and I find that sad.
    Starts at the top and works its way down.
    No it doesn't. Personal morality isn't the responsibility of another individual or corporation. It starts with each one of us and our choices from the inside out.
    When people see their government as corrupt and immoral... it all goes downhill from there.
    When corrupt self-serving individuals elect corrupt people to rule over them then they should set their expectations accordingly.
    No wonder voter turnout is so shitty, the honest voters abstain.
    I live in Oregon. Our vote doesn't matter anyway, even if you care.

    We're over-simplifying a complicated issue. There's a lot of truth in every corner of it that's overlooked in the discussion. It may not be possible to do it justice or be worth the effort. I think it was @FrodoFragins who had a signature that went something to the effect, "For every complex problem there is a simple solution that is as wrong as it is simple." That happens a lot in discussions here in my opinion because the format doesn't lend itself well to having them.

    I hope you find a good path through the trademark fiasco. That sort of stuff is exhausting to deal with.
    We do very much care.

    What ever happens down there, has a big effect on what happens up here.

    Socially and Economically.
    We care here too. That doesn't make our vote matter. It hasn't mattered, ever, and I can't see a feasible scenario where it does while the electoral system stays in place. That's just reality. That's why I say the issue is more complex than can be given justice.

    What do you do in a democratic republic where your vote doesn't matter?

    Off topic (and flirting dangerously with political discussions)...

    One of the more interesting ideas that our newly formed provincial coalition government (New Democratic Party + Greens) here in British Columbia has talked about is electoral reform to make the provincial government be reflective of popular vote: If a party gets 12% of the popular vote they would have 12% of the elected representatives.

    Of course that would almost guarantee nothing but coalition governments going forward. But I like that - these old weasels tend to behave better when they have to worry about other old weasels from competing parties they have married for convenience pulling the rug out from under them.
    Flirting? This post is a wet, sloppy kiss.  ;)
    IselinlaseritTorvalSBFord
  • Elysium 'Private Server' Shuts Down Temporarily Due to Financial Shenanigans - World of Warcraft - M

    Rockard said:
    Drama.
    Guys steal the code of a game and run a illegal server.
    But they must be nice guys,because they give vanilla WoW to the people.
    Turns out they really are not that nice guys(totally unexpected).
    More drama.

    *Not enough pop corn.
    Is it "stolen" code? I thought  I read the server side code was created independently, or is that just a cover story?

    I think one of the reasons this site permits the conversation is they believe the origin tale which if true means nothing is actually stolen.
    Gdemami