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  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    So who has the stronger cult following, SC or SotA?  Not number of cult members, but average level of devotion?
    SoTA. At least till vials of blood are sold to Star Citizen fans...selling blood vials to "fans" is the very definition of what a cult does (at least the cults you see in movies and what not).

    But nothing beats that (SoTA) thus far
    Half of the blood proceeds went to charity (...or were stated that they'd go to charity, at least).  So that muddies that sale a bit in terms of how much of it can be chalked up to devotion and how much of it can be chalked up to some guy thinking "It supports the game AND it supports charity!  Awesome!"

    How long was Shroud of the Avatar in development again?  I forget.  "Amount of patience" should probably be a factor when gauging devotion, though.
    MaxBacon
  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    Kefo said:

    Don't forget the press release that CIG issued was rather hilarious in itself. Crytek alleges that CIG had an exclusivity contract and CIG goes and says they haven't used cryengine since they switched to lumberyard. If that clause exists in the GLA and I were Skadden I'd be sending whoever wrote that statement a thank you basket.
    Yea, if the clause didn't exist, you'd think they would have said that instead of just reaffirm that they broke it.

    Like I said, it's only a possibility and not confirmed, but maybe someday we'll see that Star Citizen's "Business model" is built on breaking contractual business agreements (or worse).  Totally awesome business model there.
    MaxBacon
  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    Rouzuki said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    Daranar said:
    Worst business model?  Isn't the point of business to make money.  I'd say they did pretty damn good.  They sell ships...A lot of ships...for a thousand bucks.  They broke every crowdfunding record and Chris Roberts has made a shit ton of money.   I think if you wanna look at bad business you need to look at TRION.
    Star Citizen is about to potentially be sued into oblivion because they possibly welched on their business contract.  None of the other games on the list are so yea, that would turn out to be a pretty bad business model if that ends up happening.
    They're also potentially about to counter sue and make out with more money than they had before Crytek attempted to sue them. Given Crytek is a desperate company about to go bankrupt, it really sounds like they're just flinging shit against the wall to see what sticks.
    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/55627/crytek-receive-500m-investment-turkish-gov/index.html

    500 million, almost three times as much as Star Citizen's 173 million, and that was less than a year ago (as opposed to Star Citizen who's been paying bills versus that 170 million for the past half decade).  Crytek is not "about to go bankrupt".  You can't afford the prices of one of the most prestigious law firms in America if you're about to go bankrupt.

    And using CiG's hilariously incompetent and unprofessional press-release reply as an argument is just sad.  They only said that to appease the gullible backers' concerns, though they admittingly appear to be rather successful on that front.  It's already dumb enough an idea that Skadden (who values their reputation or else they wouldn't be rated where they are today) takes meritless cases but to think they'd take one where it's so easy to counter sue them?  The delusion of Star Citizen white knights is unreal.
    MaxBacon
  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    Daranar said:
    Worst business model?  Isn't the point of business to make money.  I'd say they did pretty damn good.  They sell ships...A lot of ships...for a thousand bucks.  They broke every crowdfunding record and Chris Roberts has made a shit ton of money.   I think if you wanna look at bad business you need to look at TRION.
    Star Citizen is about to potentially be sued into oblivion because they possibly welched on their business contract.  None of the other games on the list are so yea, that would turn out to be a pretty bad business model if that ends up happening.
    MaxBacon
  • Star Citizen Wins Prestigious "Worst MMO Business Model Of 2017" Award

    Orinori said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    Define "many".   And clearly there is a case against it or this topic would be done by now.
    The topic is done >.> most posters have been talking random stuff for ages. Look, when neutrals and even anti SC fans start backing the theory you know there isn't much else place left to go! (I can't even make sense of that ending when I read it, I'm going to bed :P )
    Neutrals and anti-SC fans aren't one singular hive-mind.  So I guess you can't define "many" then.  Well, you're right on one count at least that there isn't "much else place left to go" now.
    MaxBacon