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  • So, Where Are YOU on Net Neutrality?

    Kyleran said:
    YashaX said:
    Cleffy said:
    Actually it would be freer for the ISPs to remain title 1 companies. Although the ISPs seem to have a lot of power, they are limited in their ability to abuse it by other means. There is no stopping an abuse of power by the US government without a revolt. By the FCC taking less authority over the net they are letting the private sector and citizen retain more power.  Equality does not equal freedom.
    That said, there is a quite a bit of fear mongering on the subject that is quite odd if you don't understand the infrastructure of the internet. It would be freakishly slow for an ISP to examine every single packet that comes through their network and deny access depending on who it is going to. What makes the internet run optimally is the simple structure of routing a packet in a timely manner. How they throttle a service like peer to peer sharing is by throttling a specific port universally across their network. This port was typically shared with game networks so they were also throttled. This check could be executed in a single line of code. Checking where a packet is coming from and who it is going to is a much more complicated check.
    Doing such a check would also violate licensing contracts with regional ISP providers like Cogent and Level 3. It may also violate FTC rules.


    Don't you dare lump "private sector" and "citizen" into one bucket my friend. They are NOT the same. I'm not clear on what equality vs freedom even has to do with the conversation either. Care to expound?
    I notice that some Americans sadly don't seem to realize that in a democracy at least, the government represents the citizens of a country, while a listed company is obligated to work in the best interest of the company/shareholders, not of citizens (unless forced to by some kind of government regulation).
    You also realize that in many cases the employees of a listed company are citizens and their livelihoods depend on the success of said firm.

    Also many citizens are stockholders of companies including "evil" ISP firms.

    A balance needs to be struck and maintained to provide sufficient benefit to all concerned.

    I don't think ISP or other firms are evil. Firms work to maximize their own gains, which can benefit employees. However, they don't need to think about society as a whole; that is not necessarily bad, and can in fact be very good, as long as the rest of the checks and balances set up in capitalist democracies are functioning correctly.

    What disturbs me is that newsflow out of the US (and posts on this forum) increasingly shows that people don't understand this, and mainly act/think based on partisan lines even on something as clear cut as net neutrality. Seeing people actively support/promote policy that would hurt them is weird.
    Asm0deusMadFrenchie
  • So, Where Are YOU on Net Neutrality?

    Cleffy said:
    Actually it would be freer for the ISPs to remain title 1 companies. Although the ISPs seem to have a lot of power, they are limited in their ability to abuse it by other means. There is no stopping an abuse of power by the US government without a revolt. By the FCC taking less authority over the net they are letting the private sector and citizen retain more power.  Equality does not equal freedom.
    That said, there is a quite a bit of fear mongering on the subject that is quite odd if you don't understand the infrastructure of the internet. It would be freakishly slow for an ISP to examine every single packet that comes through their network and deny access depending on who it is going to. What makes the internet run optimally is the simple structure of routing a packet in a timely manner. How they throttle a service like peer to peer sharing is by throttling a specific port universally across their network. This port was typically shared with game networks so they were also throttled. This check could be executed in a single line of code. Checking where a packet is coming from and who it is going to is a much more complicated check.
    Doing such a check would also violate licensing contracts with regional ISP providers like Cogent and Level 3. It may also violate FTC rules.


    Don't you dare lump "private sector" and "citizen" into one bucket my friend. They are NOT the same. I'm not clear on what equality vs freedom even has to do with the conversation either. Care to expound?
    I notice that some Americans sadly don't seem to realize that in a democracy at least, the government represents the citizens of a country, while a listed company is obligated to work in the best interest of the company/shareholders, not of citizens (unless forced to by some kind of government regulation).
    SedrynTyrosFlyByKnightAsm0deusMrMelGibson
  • Patreon for poor people that cant afford CoE? Elyrian Assistance Program announced...

    Cool, another positive for your other thread!
    Slapshot1188WellspringJustDrakeDakeruwingood
  • Microtransactions & the 19-Year-Old Who Spent $13,000 - MMORPG.com News

    DMKano said:
    Not sure what the point of the article is - there are millions of people who are terrible at managing money and have addiction issues.

    A 19 year old spends $13,000 on

    booze, strippers, drugs

    or 

    electronics, pimping out his car, guns, MTG cards etc, Justin Bieber autographed crap....

    I mean you can waste money on just about anything, and in every case its the person who is the problem

    I mean people pissing away money on stuff they shouldnt is newsworthy?
    The point is that people (parents) need to understand that games are no longer just the one off purchase that they used to be, but now also push players to spend more and more on microtransactions.

    People are generally already aware that booze and drugs are addictive and can cause various problems, there is plenty of information/education and warnings about those sort of things, but society is only just coming to terms with the issues surrounding loot boxes/microtransactions etc being pushed onto kids through games.


    GdemamiSlapshot1188laseritinfomatzJoseph_Kerr
  • So, Where Are YOU on Net Neutrality?

    Renoaku said:
    I strongly believe internet should remain free, I was just talking IRL to random people and we were discussing news, politics, and war, or better said taxes and the average people paying over 3,000 USD a year just in taxes paying 3 different taxes, including School Taxes even if you don't have children, or make any modifications to your property how the tax is insane such as putting in a new DriveWay as an American you have to pay for all this.

    Sure here in America generally speaking it's better more civilized, but we are still slaves to the system Net Neutrality is just another step to total anarchy, new world order as right now Americans where they realise it or not at least IMO we're all slaves to the system, and you either pay your Tax, spend Extra Money for entertainment assuming you can afford it, you end up on the streets, and if lucky you get to apply for housing, and food stamp while you are Forced into going to a work force trying to find a job assuming the worst of worst happens to someone.

    The internet needs to remain a free place the way it is today free information, freedom to watch Netflix, or other services without having to pay ISP's or Government additional fees, imagine trying to login to World OF Warcraft, or your favorite game one day and it tells you that you have to pay your ISP $5 to access World OF Warcraft, in addition to your subscription fee, sure a lot of people would likely just do it again giving into the so called American Dream which I believe is all a big joke, but $5 a month while this isn't a lot whhen its just one person imagine if every World OF Warcraft player here in the U.S had to pay $5 a month to access the game.

    Totally Insane, and it's just such a disgrace in my eyes to see things like Net Neutrality... 

    And this isn't the worst of it, over 8 Million Americans could be out of jobs by 2030 due to Robotics, and Computer Advancement it's already been happening for quite some time now, and I love technology, but then where 8 million people have a hard time finding work it's a big issue.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42170100
    Net neutrality seems to be basically the opposite of what you think it is (going by your post). It means keeping the internet free so you don't have to pay your ISP extra money to access WoW (using your example). That is why a lot of people are upset that the US government is trying to abolish net neutrality.

    MrMelGibsonAllerleirauh