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  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    Feel free to go read your posts again. Proof is right there. Constantly insinuating nefarious intent when it is clearly not the case.
    So you have zero to support your personal attack.   I see. Having a negative opinion of a game or company and discussing their failures is not slander.  Let's stick to discussing the game shall we?

    Personally I can't wait until the Elyria Mud release date comes!

    So basically you are retracting your claim that the developers are dishonest and incompetent?
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    The schedule IS part of the deal though.  If you are delaying delivery by a year plus... you are not meeting your commitment.  One side doesn't get to unilaterally change the deal.  The deal was to deliver X product in Y time. 

    There is an interesting distinction to be made though. They are not just extending the timeline for the same product. They are expanding the product at the same time. You might say this is wrong... ok. The intention of the project is to be continually developed after launch. If a Kickstarter campaign is wildly successful should we really expect them to turn their backs on that cash and not expand to features they had reluctantly cut in the first place when they had set a lower, 'realistic' goal?

    I'm not pretending there is a simple answer here.
  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    Actually no it's NOT slander.  Slander would be saying (not writing) something untrue.  Missing your timeline by a year plus obviously "reflects on their competence" and is a true statement so not libel.

    If you can't see that, the problem is on your side.

    PS: His "angry reply" wasn't to a few internet trolls on this forum but rather to customers on his own forum.  Perhaps you should go find the link previously provided and read it.

    Saying/writing = semantics, my man. Kickstarter timeliness are bunk and making a big deal of it is pointless. Their competency will be judged when they actually release a product, playable demo or whatever, not because they hurt your feelings.

    It doesn't matter where he posted it. The CoE forum community at large does not seem to have taken it personally which seems to indicate that they know it was not targeted at them.
  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    Kyleran said:
    CrazKanuk said:

    I'd LOVE to believe that if Caspian had just been apologetic or nice from the beginning that this would have all went away, but there are other projects which would offer pretty good evidence to the contrary. The fact that he's been an asshole has provided a great deal of ammunition, but it's most likely that ammunition would have been fabricated somehow regardless. We've seen it before and, unfortunately, we will likely see it again. It often has little to do with the project itself, and less to do with logic, but I suppose that's the state we're in today. Everyone just doing their part to make America great again :) 
    This is exactly my point. No one is disputing that Caspian's response was unprofessional but it has absolutely nothing to do with his competency or honesty, and it certainly would have made no difference to the maliciousness to which he was most likely responding. All it reflects really is that he is concerned for his project and the trolls got to him.
    I'd say his lack of competency and perhaps even his lack of honesty is also clearly indisputable as well as evidenced by his ridiculous original estimates for the game's delivery which he vigorously defended.

    Well this is where the hyperbole begins. As the project is large and complex and project managers often have to extend timelines it is hardly indicative of anything but the difficulty in predicting future events. He probably already knew the timeline was ambitious and was likely to slip.

    To me his response sounds like was not arguing about the exact accuracy of his timeline but more against the general maliciousness that he was facing from anonymous people on the internet. Equating the two are easy but mistaken. He got riled by the trollish nature of the internet. A mistake certainly but the only proof his response provides is that he needed a PR manager sooner.
  • Alright, Caspian, let's dance

    Asm0deus said:

    Instead of talking to us normally Caspian showed himself to be very sensitive about such questions and frankly came across like a snarky, angry kid and totally put some of us off even wanting to back this game even though we thought it had some very interesting ideas.
    Oh I have no doubt that his response should not have been made but let me ask you this; do you deny there was maliciousness from some posters? That is what would have prompted his response which is now being construed as a general attack on everyone, which makes no logical sense whatsoever.