Torval

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  • Conan O'Brien to Assist NetMarble with Big L2R Announcement - Lineage 2 Revolution News

    Do we get to PK Conan! That's the important question. :lol:
    Rosenborg
  • Questions submitted to UK government about loot boxes and gambling

    anemo said:
    These are the questions being asked in the front room.   In the back rooms the questions being asked is how much benefit your lobbyists will bring to us.
    Because if you don't lobby us we'll tax the hell out of you and make you pass that on to the consumer... that we care so very much about. :smirk:
    anemo
  • Questions submitted to UK government about loot boxes and gambling

    I cant believe that no one is actually paying attention to the questions asked:

    To ask the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, what steps she plans to take to help protect vulnerable adults and children from illegal gambling, in-game gambling and loot boxes within computer games.

    This first question is a loaded question. It assumes the following:

    1. There is a problem with the current protection for vulnerable adults and children from illegal gambling.

    2. There is currently an in game gambling issue.

    3. That loot boxes are also gambling (implied)


    It is not clear that all or any of these are true, and as such may not merit an actual response.


    To ask the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, what assessment the Government has made of the effectiveness of the Isle of Man’s enhanced protections against illegal and in-game gambling and loot boxes; and what discussions she has had with Cabinet colleagues on adopting such protections in the UK

    Again, this is a loaded question. It assumes the following:

    1. That there has been an assessment of the effectiveness of the Isle of Man's enhanced protections (This may have been done).

    2. It assumes that these protections have been used for illegal gambling, as well as in game gambling.

    3. It assumes that these protections might apply to loot boxes.

    4. That discussions have been held on adopting such protections in the UK


    The question of whether loot boxes are gambling is never asked, and the determination of why they are or are not is not considered.  Without an actual discussion of the specifics, there is no chance of an outcome that is reasonable.

    Those are great points and I agree. It's not being approached objectively and that makes me suspicious that someone has a legislative agenda they're trying to bolster.

    That doesn't change my mind concerning improvements to disclosure though. Using the loot crate example one game might pay off the top item .01% of the time while a competing game might pay out 1% and that is a huge cost difference. The same can be applied to raid drops and locks or any fountain or sink that is formulaic with some sort of RNG seed (like item enchantments).

    The point being that just as we have disclosure in other industries (the easy example being the food industry) more disclosure means better informed consumer choices with no biased implications from any direction. It's simply more information with which the consumer can use to make their choices.

    TL;DR: I agree with you and I think more information for the consumer is better.
    Gdemami
  • The Witches Festival to Fly Into ESO on October 20th - Elder Scrolls Online - MMORPG.com

    Great, just great. That is also the time I'm resubbing for SWL. Also there is some little MMO shooter launching on the 24th that I'm trying to wait patiently for. :lol:
    BillMurphy
  • I hate loot boxes and so does Francis.

    Rhoklaw said:
    Torval said:
    Support what you like with your time and money. That will get you a lot farther than complaining over the things you don't like other people doing.
    You're not from America are you?
    Nope. I'm from Oregon. :tongue:
    TillerSovrathKyleranRhoklaw