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I agree with you here Loke. Honestly, quests are not quests, but rather tasks. I like the idea of layering the 'quest' system into different categories.Loke666 said:I dunno, questhubs certainly is boring but overusing the quests doesn't help either. EQ had some awesome quests but they watered them out with plenty of really boring stupid quests as well.Arclan said:I think that was the OP's position as well. To the OP I would say yes I completely agree with you, having played years of EQ but never WoW; I did play Vanguard at launch, which had WoW's quest hubs. Didn't like it; no one truly connected; all interactions were simply a means of completing the next "quest."ste2000 said:It's Quest Hub that ruined exploration not Quest in general.
We don't need tons of silly pointless quests, a "Quest" should feel epic and interesting, not delivering a letter to someone standing 20 feet away. You could possibly call that a "task" but the rewards for such should be rather small.
I don't really need a quest to go into the forest and kill 10 orcs, there certainly could be a bounty (Lineage handled that great by having most orcs drop totems you could sell to a bounty vendor). To kill the evil orc king is fine but lets get rid of anything not epic and just let the players roam the land and find small situations, band of mobs and similar they run into during their travels instead.
Now, a good epic quest can be very fun, I loved EQ2s heritage quests for instance when you spent a rather lot of work to get an epic classic EQ item, they felt rewarding, often took teamwork and you were really happy when you got the reward.
But then you have the quests you forgot as soon as you done them with some crap reward you really don't need, you grind a zillion of them just for XP. Those quests are as grindy as camping a spawning ground, a MMO should be about adventure and killing the inns rats feeding a peasants cows and similar is menial work, not adventuring.
My general rule is "Would Conan have done this?". If not then I have to quote "Journeyquest" and say "sod the quest".