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d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
To what extent does the publisher of a game affect your decision to buy? Has this changed over time for you?

In my case, I never cared before. I didn't start to care about it until SWTOR, but wasn't really influenced by it till after ArcheAge launched. Now, there are definite publishers I will not support.

I'm glad there are a lot of games to choose from  without their titles.


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  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 780
    edited December 2017
    Same as you, won't touch any games made by Trino. I'm also very wary of games made by EA and any typical cash grab publisher.

    I pray for the day that we get past this microtransaction culture. Free to Play because the games are below a good standard. People will pay and play a game long term if its GOOD, simple.

    You can all blame the publisher and devs but lots of people spending £$£$$ on them, if they stopped then microtransactions would stop.

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited December 2017
    d_20 said:
    To what extent does the publisher of a game affect your decision to buy? Has this changed over time for you?

    In my case, I never cared before. I didn't start to care about it until SWTOR, but wasn't really influenced by it till after ArcheAge launched. Now, there are definite publishers I will not support.

    I'm glad there are a lot of games to choose from  without their titles.
    A lot for example if I see games like from Nexon, Perfect World, Trion Worlds, or Snail Games I may install and check them out but I am unlikely to keep playing them and just uninstall without spending anything once I look at how horrid and Pay 2 Enjoy or Pay 2 Win the cash shop is.

    StarTrek online isn't too bad but it needs massive re-works to be more realistic before I could recommend this game to people highly I've tried so many times over the years and remove it every time due to ti glitches and bugs on certain races as well unfixed.
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,503
    The saddest part of this is the devs that get attached to certain publishers with no way to go a different route other than finding a new company to work for.  Yes there are some publishers that I am starting to lean away from just because of there business practices. 

    A big problem today is a lot of people don't seem to understand that devs and publishers are different things.  You can have a really good dev team but have a crappy publisher which in turn ends up ruining what could have been something great.  Can't count how many times I have seen things added or removed because the publisher was on a time table that was unrealistic.
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  • RexKushmanRexKushman Member RarePosts: 639
    I look at each game separately, I don't really care about who the publisher is.

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,100
    No that has never been a factor in my decision. I judge the game and buy it based on the game.
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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903
    There's a good chance I'll buy anything from Zachtronics.   Though that's more because their games are just good, "programming leaning" puzzle games that give you good story instead of silly reward/crack/monetization screens between puzzles.

    EA, and Trion will probably end up being ignored.   The only thing I buy from EA is TitanFall/Mirrors Edge, though Mirrors Edge is probably already dead being a single player game and TitanFall 3 will probably play like some loot box fest now that they fully own it.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    d_20 said:
    To what extent does the publisher of a game affect your decision to buy? Has this changed over time for you?


    None. I buy games for fun, not to support or punish publishers. If there is a fun (to me) game, i care less who makes or publishes it. 
  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    I will never play an NCsoft game again after the way they allowed bots to screw up lineage 2 and then sat there and denied that they were doing all they could do about it. The whole thing with Marvel Omega cemented that even further. 

    If I find out a game is from them, I won't even try it. Aion, never even read anything about it once I knew it was from them. Wouldn't even try a lineage game again. 

    From reading the forums, I'll be wary about EA games, but I do play Madden on console, it's just that I don't get involved in any of the pay scam things. Trion, I'll be wary about it after reading on these forums. Now that I know they make Archeage, they are on my map. 

    I am playing conan exiles made by funcom, i like the game, but it has its problems, we'll see what Funcom does with it, or else I'd add it. 

    I also tend to not want to try Blizzard games. The reason is they are addicting as fuck and also I feel that Blizzard sells out a bit. I blew my college grades on diablo 2 basically, and now I won't touch a diablo series, but I will play Path of Exile. But since Overwatch was made by blizzard, I didn't even want to try it because I knew it would be well polished, addicting, and I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole. Plus, I'm not too much of an FPS guy anyway. 

    However, if blizzard makes a survival game, I'd probably buy it ASAP though, cuz I know it would be well polished, addicting, and good but of course the whole sellout factor. 


    On the other hand:
    Bethesda/Zenimax games = are usually always good
    CCP = Even though they've floundered on everything but EVE, i'd try something new that they publish
    Bluehole = seems successful, so i'll have a positive inclination
    Blizzard = It's a love/hate relationship

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I stay away from EA and Activision games. I did actually like their games once, but that ended with the Commodore Amiga.

    A good enough game could potentially make me ignore that and buy it anyways, it is just a long time since that happened.
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Loke666 said:


    A good enough game could potentially make me ignore that and buy it anyways, it is just a long time since that happened.

    Titanfall 2 is pretty good in my books. ME Andromeda is fun for a while. Better yet .. i can pay a $30 (Origin Access) for a whole year of all these games. 

    There is no way i am going to pay $60 for EA games, but $30 for a tons of them  .. sure. I don't even need to finish all of them (i did finish titanfall 2 though .. good fun campaign) to get my money worth.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 22,955
    edited December 2017
    I take each game as it comes, you should carefully look over all elements of the gameplay.  Somebody like EA just gets an extra check for the dubious elements they often bring to the table.

    Never pre-order, never fund a kickstarter, never join a game before it is launched. Always read the reviews not previews. What are your friends saying about the game? What does Metacritic and Steam say? Check every damn thing as the time spent ensures you don't waste time playing a game for a couple of days and then deciding you are going to bin it. Even worse, putting money into the game before in launches and then finding it is below the standards you expected.
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Scot said:
    I take each game as it comes, you should carefully look over all elements of the gameplay.  Somebody like EA just gets an extra check for the dubious elements they often bring to the table.

    Never pre-order, never fund a kickstarter, never join a game before it is launched. Always read the reviews not previews. What are your friends saying about the game? What does Metacritic and Steam say? Check every damn thing as the time spent ensures you don't waste time playing a game for a couple of days and then deciding you are going to bin it. Even worse, putting money into the game before in launches and then finding it is below the standards you expected.

    Or ... buy it on steam .. play for 20 min. Refund if you do not like it. 
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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Mad+Dog said:
    Same as you, won't touch any games made by Trino. I'm also very wary of games made by EA and any typical cash grab publisher.

    I pray for the day that we get past this microtransaction culture. Free to Play because the games are below a good standard. People will pay and play a game long term if its GOOD, simple.

    You can all blame the publisher and devs but lots of people spending £$£$$ on them, if they stopped then microtransactions would stop.

    Wow you are just wary of EA but really dislike Trion. No company will ever be worse than EA.
  • ShaighShaigh Member EpicPosts: 2,142
    The publisher role on a game can differ from game to game and also depend on the relation between developer and publisher.

    When it comes to asian mmorpg a western publisher are somewhat limited on what they can do and it all depends on the license. Smaller developer gets a publisher because they lack the distribution network to sell the game and in those cases developer have full creative control over their product.

    On the other hand, when a publisher funds the development of a game they get far more control over the final product. Finally, when the developer is fully owned by the publisher it all depends how much independence they give the development studio.

    I don't choose to play games based on their publisher but for some reason I don't buy EA and activision products anymore and mostly play games coming from asian companies and indie developers.
    d_20
    Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,855
    Everything is suspect until proven otherwise.
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  • ShaighShaigh Member EpicPosts: 2,142
    Everything is suspect until proven otherwise.
    Translation: Stop preordering games
    d_20
    Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,855
    Shaigh said:
    Everything is suspect until proven otherwise.
    Translation: Stop preordering games
    pretty much
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 22,955
    edited December 2017
    Scot said:
    I take each game as it comes, you should carefully look over all elements of the gameplay.  Somebody like EA just gets an extra check for the dubious elements they often bring to the table.

    Never pre-order, never fund a kickstarter, never join a game before it is launched. Always read the reviews not previews. What are your friends saying about the game? What does Metacritic and Steam say? Check every damn thing as the time spent ensures you don't waste time playing a game for a couple of days and then deciding you are going to bin it. Even worse, putting money into the game before in launches and then finding it is below the standards you expected.

    Or ... buy it on steam .. play for 20 min. Refund if you do not like it. 

    Nari has actually added a good point. I will go and have a rest now as I feel a bit emotional. :)

    With the caveat that you can't always tell how good a game is in 20 mins, but still a good idea.
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    edited December 2017
    Scot said:m9
    Scot said:
    I take each game as it comes, you should carefully look over all elements of the gameplay.  Somebody like EA just gets an extra check for the dubious elements they often bring to the table.

    Never pre-order, never fund a kickstarter, never join a game before it is launched. Always read the reviews not previews. What are your friends saying about the game? What does Metacritic and Steam say? Check every damn thing as the time spent ensures you don't waste time playing a game for a couple of days and then deciding you are going to bin it. Even worse, putting money into the game before in launches and then finding it is below the standards you expected.

    Or ... buy it on steam .. play for 20 min. Refund if you do not like it. 

    Nari has actually added a good point. I will go and have a rest now as I feel a bit emotional. :)

    .
    I know, when it happens I quickly look around wondering if its "opposite day" or something.

    He actually had 2 good points in a row, so I'm now thinking I've moved into a parallel universe, and am about to run into my "evil twin."  

    (Wonder if there's any Nazi's around, I was watching Amazon Prime last night)

    ;)
    Post edited by Kyleran on
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  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,982
    The publisher does indeed impact my decision. I used to have respect for Trion. I was thrilled when I found out that they would be hanging ArcheAge. However, after experiencing the worst case of P2W as well as nothing being done about the constant gold farmers etc, I won't touch anything Trion has to offer.
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Kyleran said:


    He actually had 2 good points in a row, so I'm now thinking I've moved into a parallel universe, and am about to run into my "evil twin."  


    Don't worry .. the flogging of the ancient dead horse is coming soon :p 
    Kyleran
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Scot said:


    With the caveat that you can't always tell how good a game is in 20 mins, but still a good idea.
    no. But with so many games around, and not enough time to play, it is not a big deal to miss those which are good, but not fun enough in the first 20 min.


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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    NCSoft.
    They would have to come up with something friggin' AMAZING in order to convince me to throw money their way ever again.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    I used to think the Dev / Publisher made a difference, but after realizing I wasn't enjoying MMORPGs regardless of who delivered them it became obvious where the real problem lie.

    Everyone else of course, their continued insistence on buying and playing games I don't like clearly is the issue.

    ;)

    At this point I'm probably open to buying a good (*) MMORPG from Diablo himself should the opportunity present.

    (*) "good" subjectively being a game "I" like of course.


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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member LegendaryPosts: 3,706
    d_20 said:
    To what extent does the publisher of a game affect your decision to buy? Has this changed over time for you?

    In my case, I never cared before. I didn't start to care about it until SWTOR, but wasn't really influenced by it till after ArcheAge launched. Now, there are definite publishers I will not support.

    I'm glad there are a lot of games to choose from  without their titles.
    The way it usually works for me is I used to play anything. 

    Over time, I played good games and bad games, keeping note of who did what. Patterns emerge, which then affects behaviour. 

    So, EA consistently publish mediocre games. I haven't played a good game from EA since Skate 3 in 2010, but even that was disappointing, I am just (still) in love with the core gameplay. So, a long history of mediocre games is my primary reason for avoiding EA. A secondary reason is their horrible monetisation strategy, which has made me even less likely to buy their games. 

    But, I still look into their interesting games. Despite their long history of mediocre games, if they were able to create an actual good game without shit monetisation, I'd buy it. I have no hopes that will ever happen, but I am open to that possibility. 


    Thats pretty much how it goes. If a game is published by a company with a bad history, I am more wary. If I was on the fence, a bad publisher will turn that into a no. So, Warner Brothers are getting up there now, I don't like what they've done with the LotR IP. Ubisoft have a sketchy history, I tend to like their games but their stability is awful. Activision just don't make games for me, so I haven't bought one in ages. 
    d_20
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