Either it's less, or they just decided to go a totally different direction for 3.0 than what's been advertised for a while prior to its release.
I did not claim there is not less to the Stanton rollout. I questioned a comment about 'tons of stuff missing' from 3.0 and stated that from the patch notes it seems a lot more has been included in 3.0 than what was promoted.
From what I can see
Crusader is the gas giant below the current exploreable space station port olisar - missing ability to fly into gas
Hurston - fauna tech.
ArcCorp - city modules.
Microtech - bio domes / farming
That is what is missing? while disappointing, I struggle to get behind the notion that this is equal to loads of stuff missing when you examine the systems and tech that is being introduced with 3.0. This missing tech is being worked on though and slated for later inclusion to 3.x right?
That was the bulk of the proposed 3.0 though, from what I understood prior to release.
If they've supplanted that progress with progress in other areas, it's certainly a debatable issue whether it's missing a "lot" or not.. But that's a somewhat subjective argument either way, as we're attempting to measure an aggregate of features that can't really be uniformly quantified.
It does seem that what's been delivered is significantly different than what was advertised prior to the release. Specific to what was advertised, there's significant amounts of content that didn't actually make it into the release here. Again, maybe that's been supplanted by other content and features, but I don't thint that invalidates Vrika's point in sharing the screenshot.
Yes, it would be nice to have some decent back and forth discussion.
That's great to hear! tell me, what was your feedback on the 2.6 flight characteristics and what do you hope to see in this area when you try 3.0?
First, if you are going to quote me, quote me, do not take part of what I said, and use it out of context. Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
Yes, it would be nice to have some decent back and forth discussion.
That's great to hear! tell me, what was your feedback on the 2.6 flight characteristics and what do you hope to see in this area when you try 3.0?
Sadly this seems to have been met with a lot of silence for now
I have no problem extending the invitation to discuss opinions on 2.6 flight characteristics and their hopes for flight changes during 3.0 to any of the other naysayers / marmite haters here. I don't think this is off topic is it? seems pertinent to me.
I was not aware that I, or anyone else, was on a schedule with regards to a reply to a post by you, or anyone else for that matter.
Yes, it would be nice to have some decent back and forth discussion.
That's great to hear! tell me, what was your feedback on the 2.6 flight characteristics and what do you hope to see in this area when you try 3.0?
Sadly this seems to have been met with a lot of silence for now
I have no problem extending the invitation to discuss opinions on 2.6 flight characteristics and their hopes for flight changes during 3.0 to any of the other naysayers / marmite haters here. I don't think this is off topic is it? seems pertinent to me.
I find this completely amazing. Not a single SC detractor here on MMORPG has any opinion they can discuss and share on one of the most discussed and heated topics amongst people who actually play or have played the game at least long enough to form any opinions?
It's almost like the only reason you post is to hate on Chris Roberts!
You seem to have no issue with waiting so long for 3.0, or SC in general, but cannot wait for a reply to a forum post?
"Patience, Grasshopper"
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Edit: Also, I would like to say that CR is bound to feel a large amount of pressure and is beholden to his backers to some degree. If the base ever turned on him it probably would have been all over. I am sure 3.0 being rolled out is a massive relief to all at CIG.
I do not get you guys. You spend years explaining you are ready to wait for whatever time it takes to make that BDSSE. When someone like me then points that fact out, then we are wrong too...
That was the bulk of the proposed 3.0 though, from what I understood prior to release.
I always took 3.0 to be about the unveiling of planetary tech and the inclusion of transporting cargo and other missions. For which to me they did. So perhaps my perspective is just wrong. I don't see 'significant amounts of content' missing. I see a few tech systems missing (big important ones) as the development for now to me isn't about adding huge amounts of never ending content but rather about adding the systems that support adding that huge amount of content.
The problem with allowing people into alphas is they gain game knowledge that other players wont have...By the time the game launches, these alpha players will have 5 years of game skill at least...For me, theres no point even looking at a game like that.
Edit: Also, I would like to say that CR is bound to feel a large amount of pressure and is beholden to his backers to some degree. If the base ever turned on him it probably would have been all over. I am sure 3.0 being rolled out is a massive relief to all at CIG.
I do not get you guys. You spend years explaining you are ready to wait for whatever time it takes to make that BDSSE. When someone like me then points that fact out, then we are wrong too...
* Sigh *
PS. Hi, Max, good to have you back.
But that's only because majority of backers are actually happy with what they are seeing, the progress and the direction. You think there are no limits to majority support of backers?
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
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It's fine to dislike SC and it's fine post negative, but most of you guys post bring NOTHING to the discussion.
As i said in another post, you people complain and complain, but don't take the time to actual look at what you're complaining about, form and actual decent worth while argument and present it. It's equal to calling a football team shit, but never watching football in your life and basing everything on a random video you saw on youtube.
There's no meaning or substance to most posts by people who aren't fans on this site, they are very rare times when some does and very welcomed.
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
The reason it seem like constantly defending is we have to put up with BS like rodarin's posts constantly, insulting and fling negativity based on nothing
That was the bulk of the proposed 3.0 though, from what I understood prior to release.
I always took 3.0 to be about the unveiling of planetary tech and the inclusion of transporting cargo and other missions. For which to me they did. So perhaps my perspective is just wrong. I don't see 'significant amounts of content' missing. I see a few tech systems missing (big important ones) as the development for now to me isn't about adding huge amounts of never ending content but rather about adding the systems that support adding that huge amount of content.
While true, the amount of content that they're ready to release to backers using that tech can be taken as an indicator of progress with that tech in terms of content generation.
And not to split hairs, but I usually try to delineate underlying systems as a different area of development as content. The two are certainly intertwined, but the implementation of underlying tech is the foundation upon which you build your content (specifically in reference to procedural tech). So, again, there seems to be a sigificant amount of content missing, which points to a slower progression than was expected reference being able to effectively and efficiently leverage the underlying tech that helps generate content such as planets, moons, etc..
A working procedural generation system does little good if you cannot efficiently generate release-state quality content utilizing that system. It leads to the kind of deserted, bland, or buggy worlds that quickly cause the allure of using procedural tech to fade. In that way, the two are separate but intimately intertwined.
They may have demonstrated that they have underlying tech that can procedurally generate celestial bodies, but the huge delays in releasing 3.0 coupled with the culling of a significant amount of content generated utilizing the tech indicates they have a lot of work to do on it to generate the size galaxy they advertised to backers without sacrificing the quality of the content they advertised to backers.
LMAO the one thing that has been proven is that orinori is the most obvious ghost account ever.
So sad that when guys get banned on a chitty chat forum they are so obsessed with continuing to talk about things they make fake accounts to continue to say the same things over and over again.
Shows the mentality of the children (regardless of actual age) who are completely consumed by this project. Or they really are getting paid and UNLESS they post about it a certain amount of times (regardless of screen name) the money stops flowing.
O.O
Who on earth do you think I am! I am not Max if you are going to be the 4th or 5th person to say so xD
I am Ori. Have always been Ori, will always be Ori. What same things am I saying over and over again!? Bless you Rodarin you silly sausage.
they have a lot of work to do on it to generate the size galaxy they advertised to backers without sacrificing the quality of the content they advertised to backers.
You are probably correct. Thankfully for me I won't be to put out if they fall short of that mark as long as what is given is enjoyable. I doubt others will be as forgiving!
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
This is why MMORPG boards is such a strange place. You just come here to bash it then...nothing but a troll!
ah yes, the good old ad hominem.
I do not like SC, so I must be a troll, great logic there.
You cannot counter my opinion, so must attack me.
Just because I do not consider SC to be good, does not mean I have no interest in the development of it, especially when you consider it has a direct effect on SQ42, which some people (possibly me for all you know) are more interested in than SC anyway.
It's fine to dislike SC and it's fine post negative, but most of you guys post bring NOTHING to the discussion. Again, nothing.
As i said in another post, you people complain and complain, but don't take the time to actual look at what you're complaining about, form and actual decent worth while argument and present it. It's equal to calling a football team shit, but never watching football in your life and basing everything on a random video you saw on youtube.
There's no meaning or substance to most posts by people who aren't fans on this site, they are very rare times when some does and very welcomed.
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
The reason it seem like constantly defending is we have to put up with BS like rodarin's posts constantly, insulting and fling negativity based on nothing
While what you say it true for the most part, you can also say the same for a lot of the positive post's.
Certain positive poster's make post after post, putting a positive spin on everything, while failing to start, or take part, in an actual discussion.
As I said before, love it or hate it, there is no real middle ground, it has got to the point where a poster with the slightest negativity is classed as a hater/troll/whatever, and anyone with anything positive to say is a white knight.
I honestly do not think an actual discussion can take place anymore, as even if someone started one, it would soon devolve the way pretty much every thread has so far.
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
This is why MMORPG boards is such a strange place. You just come here to bash it then...nothing but a troll!
ah yes, the good old ad hominem.
I do not like SC, so I must be a troll, great logic there.
You cannot counter my opinion, so must attack me.
Just because I do not consider SC to be good, does not mean I have no interest in the development of it, especially when you consider it has a direct effect on SQ42, which some people (possibly me for all you know) are more interested in than SC anyway.
It's fine to dislike SC and it's fine post negative, but most of you guys post bring NOTHING to the discussion.
As i said in another post, you people complain and complain, but don't take the time to actual look at what you're complaining about, form and actual decent worth while argument and present it. It's equal to calling a football team shit, but never watching football in your life and basing everything on a random video you saw on youtube.
There's no meaning or substance to most posts by people who aren't fans on this site, they are very rare times when some does and very welcomed.
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
The reason it seem like constantly defending is we have to put up with BS like rodarin's posts constantly, insulting and fling negativity based on nothing
This is true but at the same time the strong supporters here also bring practically nothing to the discussion. They largely involve themselves in the drama as much as "the other side" or PR for CIG (posting screenshots and videos) most of the time without discussing the gameplay (or potential gameplay) depicted in those shots and videos.
People ragging on the game is just part and parcel of the shitfest that is Star Citizen tbh, and a good deal of it is self-made.
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
This is why MMORPG boards is such a strange place. You just come here to bash it then...nothing but a troll!
ah yes, the good old ad hominem.
I do not like SC, so I must be a troll, great logic there.
You cannot counter my opinion, so must attack me.
Just because I do not consider SC to be good, does not mean I have no interest in the development of it, especially when you consider it has a direct effect on SQ42, which some people (possibly me for all you know) are more interested in than SC anyway.
I'm interested in SQ42 also, more so than SC. But SQ42 has gone silent. I could speculate about it but what good would that do? So I scan the SC forums from time to time. All I read was that a schedule will be posted a later date for S42. Before that a live demo mission couldn't be done because it hadn't reached that point.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I'm interested in SQ42 also, more so than SC. But SQ42 has gone silent. I could speculate about it but what good would that do? So I scan the SC forums from time to time. All I read was that a schedule will be posted a later date for S42. Before that a live demo mission couldn't be done because it hadn't reached that point.
I think everyone is pinning their hopes on a big reveal at the next event they are doing (citizen con? when is that?). While there is lots to celebrate for 3.0, I have to say if they don't show substantial progress at that event then sure there could be some big question marks. I always felt one of the big blockers they were facing was around AI movement and interaction which they seem to be finally getting on top of.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
This is why MMORPG boards is such a strange place. You just come here to bash it then...nothing but a troll!
ah yes, the good old ad hominem.
I do not like SC, so I must be a troll, great logic there.
You cannot counter my opinion, so must attack me.
Just because I do not consider SC to be good, does not mean I have no interest in the development of it, especially when you consider it has a direct effect on SQ42, which some people (possibly me for all you know) are more interested in than SC anyway.
I'm interested in SQ42 also, more so than SC. But SQ42 has gone silent. I could speculate about it but what good would that do? So I scan the SC forums from time to time. All I read was that a schedule will be posted a later date for S42. Before that a live demo mission couldn't be done because it hadn't reached that point.
I am one of the vocal SC fans on these boards yet when it comes to SQ42 my gut tells me that something is amiss. After such a development period we should had something solid about the single player aspect of SC. No matter how much CIG is pushing the technical boundaries the fact that we still have nothing, not even limited gameplay footage makes me wonder if any serious progress is made at all.
This is true but at the same time the strong supporters here also bring practically nothing to the discussion. They largely involve themselves in the drama as much as "the other side" or PR for CIG (posting screenshots and videos) most of the time without discussing the gameplay (or potential gameplay) depicted in those shots and videos.
People ragging on the game is just part and parcel of the shitfest that is Star Citizen tbh, and a good deal of it is self-made.
Oh I agree, but the major difference is if you are to ask them about the video or whatever they linked, they're able to provide you info on it and what their likes or dislikes are (if asked), where as those, not all, who have a negative view complain without taking the time to see what being is discussed and form a complaint around that. When it takes two people to ask for some to read the patch notes then there's something wrong. \
Again fine with negative posts, I just think people should take the time to read what's been provided first then, bring up their arguments and what they don't like.
MadFrenchie is a good example of someone who's read up and forming their opinion on it and not just blurting out random negativity
I am one of the vocal SC fans on these boards yet when it comes to SQ42 my gut tells me that something is amiss. After such a development period we should had something solid about the single player aspect of SC. No matter how much CIG is pushing the technical boundaries the fact that we still have nothing, not even limited gameplay footage makes me wonder if any serious progress is made at all.
A good chunk of the code will be specific to the multiplayer game, but there will be significant overlap. The fact that simple interaction with items was (is?) a feature in development this year should be indicative of the state of SQ42. Things like transitions from zero-g to standing inside a ship (which have to be using the same code for SC and SQ42) are still pretty abysmal.
Apparently, good work has been done in terms of motion capture and storytelling, which is nice to see. I'd imagine most of that is finished. Hopefully, they won't want to reshoot it. But I'd expect SQ42 to be pretty far from complete, looking at the progress of SC. You'd see SC in a much more playable state if SQ42 was steadily moving along.
I'm interested in SQ42 also, more so than SC. But SQ42 has gone silent. I could speculate about it but what good would that do? So I scan the SC forums from time to time. All I read was that a schedule will be posted a later date for S42. Before that a live demo mission couldn't be done because it hadn't reached that point.
I think everyone is pinning their hopes on a big reveal at the next event they are doing (citizen con? when is that?). While there is lots to celebrate for 3.0, I have to say if they don't show substantial progress at that event then sure there could be some big question marks. I always felt one of the big blockers they were facing was around AI movement and interaction which they seem to be finally getting on top of.
LMAO the one thing that has been proven is that orinori is the most obvious ghost account ever.
So sad that when guys get banned on a chitty chat forum they are so obsessed with continuing to talk about things they make fake accounts to continue to say the same things over and over again.
Shows the mentality of the children (regardless of actual age) who are completely consumed by this project. Or they really are getting paid and UNLESS they post about it a certain amount of times (regardless of screen name) the money stops flowing.
O.O
Who on earth do you think I am! I am not Max if you are going to be the 4th or 5th person to say so xD
I am Ori. Have always been Ori, will always be Ori. What same things am I saying over and over again!? Bless you Rodarin you silly sausage.
Yup for one day. I suspect when you come back from your vacation on the other account you will forget about this one, until of course youre forced into another few days off.....
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
You are hilarious.
Whenever someone brings up anything that actually challenges your "what you actually know" (which is precisely nothing), you immediately disregard it as hating and game bashing and you complain they are not moving the discussion "forward"?!
While I do agree that certain people try too hard, the thing is, in case of SC, majority of "negativity" is well justified and founded while all the "positivity" is just blind faith.
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
You are hilarious.
Whenever someone brings up anything that actually challenges your "what you actually know" (which is precisely nothing), you immediately disregard it as hating and game bashing and you complain they are not moving the discussion "forward"?!
While I do agree that certain people try too hard, the thing is, in case of SC, majority of "negativity" is well justified and founded while all the "positivity" is just blind faith.
Eerily silent the past 12 or so hours as more and more 'leaks' come out. I can only assume the blind faithful are getting some reality checks as what this version is like, what it has and how its playing.
Like I said yesterday from what I have seen they should have just released what hey had a month ago, but then again this might be the first time they have had it close to 'stable' and thus was the absolute earliest they could give it to anyone.
You can see the videos and comments from the youtubers and twitch guys who are basically getting paid to be SC shills, even theyre having a hard time getting excited or promoting it. That does say that at least they have enough ethics to not lie straight to their followers faces. But since the ones I have watched (maybe half a dozen) none of them are having an orgasm, then everything else I have read and heard is more than likely true.
Edit: Also, I would like to say that CR is bound to feel a large amount of pressure and is beholden to his backers to some degree. If the base ever turned on him it probably would have been all over. I am sure 3.0 being rolled out is a massive relief to all at CIG.
I do not get you guys. You spend years explaining you are ready to wait for whatever time it takes to make that BDSSE. When someone like me then points that fact out, then we are wrong too...
* Sigh *
PS. Hi, Max, good to have you back.
But that's only because majority of backers are actually happy with what they are seeing, the progress and the direction. You think there are no limits to majority support of backers?
and im not max! i am ori!
At this point, no. I really do not think that they can loose support from the already over invested fan base. Sunken cost, etc.. You know the argument.
In other news: For short while I thought that you guys trying to deny the lack of management skill around SC would be the biggest laugh of the day. Then I jumped on Mr. Smarts Twitter stream. Oh. My. God. The guy is having a total melt down. He has made like 20 posts today trying to spin actual progress into a disaster story. Desperation is setting in. Good times.
Edit: Also, I would like to say that CR is bound to feel a large amount of pressure and is beholden to his backers to some degree. If the base ever turned on him it probably would have been all over. I am sure 3.0 being rolled out is a massive relief to all at CIG.
I do not get you guys. You spend years explaining you are ready to wait for whatever time it takes to make that BDSSE. When someone like me then points that fact out, then we are wrong too...
* Sigh *
PS. Hi, Max, good to have you back.
But that's only because majority of backers are actually happy with what they are seeing, the progress and the direction. You think there are no limits to majority support of backers?
and im not max! i am ori!
At this point, no. I really do not think that they can loose support from the already over invested fan base. Sunken cost, etc.. You know the argument.
In other news: For short while I thought that you guys trying to deny the lack of management skill around SC would be the biggest laugh of the day. Then I jumped on Mr. Smarts Twitter stream. Oh. My. God. The guy is having a total melt down. He has made like 20 posts today trying to spin actual progress into a disaster story. Desperation is setting in. Good times.
While I admit that Derek has made a "few" good points about the game, such as proving the space door was not simply two wooden doors and a garage opener like CIG stated, The majority of his stuff gives new meaning to the term "ludicrous speed".
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
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There is now also cargo purchase and transporting. In game money for ships isn't slated until next big patch 3.1
If they've supplanted that progress with progress in other areas, it's certainly a debatable issue whether it's missing a "lot" or not.. But that's a somewhat subjective argument either way, as we're attempting to measure an aggregate of features that can't really be uniformly quantified.
It does seem that what's been delivered is significantly different than what was advertised prior to the release. Specific to what was advertised, there's significant amounts of content that didn't actually make it into the release here. Again, maybe that's been supplanted by other content and features, but I don't thint that invalidates Vrika's point in sharing the screenshot.
Second, since I backed SC, tried it, thought it was a pile of shit, and got a refund, I could not care less what the flight characteristic's of 2.6, or 3.0 are.
I was not aware that I, or anyone else, was on a schedule with regards to a reply to a post by you, or anyone else for that matter.
Must have missed that memo.
You seem to have no issue with waiting so long for 3.0, or SC in general, but cannot wait for a reply to a forum post?
"Patience, Grasshopper"
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
* Sigh *
PS. Hi, Max, good to have you back.
I always took 3.0 to be about the unveiling of planetary tech and the inclusion of transporting cargo and other missions. For which to me they did. So perhaps my perspective is just wrong. I don't see 'significant amounts of content' missing. I see a few tech systems missing (big important ones) as the development for now to me isn't about adding huge amounts of never ending content but rather about adding the systems that support adding that huge amount of content.
and im not max! i am ori!
As i said in another post, you people complain and complain, but don't take the time to actual look at what you're complaining about, form and actual decent worth while argument and present it. It's equal to calling a football team shit, but never watching football in your life and basing everything on a random video you saw on youtube.
There's no meaning or substance to most posts by people who aren't fans on this site, they are very rare times when some does and very welcomed.
Can you sit there and honestly say the majority who've posted negatively added some substance to this thread, moving the discussion forward?
The reason it seem like constantly defending is we have to put up with BS like
rodarin's posts constantly, insulting and fling negativity based on nothing
And not to split hairs, but I usually try to delineate underlying systems as a different area of development as content. The two are certainly intertwined, but the implementation of underlying tech is the foundation upon which you build your content (specifically in reference to procedural tech). So, again, there seems to be a sigificant amount of content missing, which points to a slower progression than was expected reference being able to effectively and efficiently leverage the underlying tech that helps generate content such as planets, moons, etc..
A working procedural generation system does little good if you cannot efficiently generate release-state quality content utilizing that system. It leads to the kind of deserted, bland, or buggy worlds that quickly cause the allure of using procedural tech to fade. In that way, the two are separate but intimately intertwined.
They may have demonstrated that they have underlying tech that can procedurally generate celestial bodies, but the huge delays in releasing 3.0 coupled with the culling of a significant amount of content generated utilizing the tech indicates they have a lot of work to do on it to generate the size galaxy they advertised to backers without sacrificing the quality of the content they advertised to backers.
Who on earth do you think I am! I am not Max if you are going to be the 4th or 5th person to say so xD
I am Ori. Have always been Ori, will always be Ori. What same things am I saying over and over again!? Bless you Rodarin you silly sausage.
Certain positive poster's make post after post, putting a positive spin on everything, while failing to start, or take part, in an actual discussion.
As I said before, love it or hate it, there is no real middle ground, it has got to the point where a poster with the slightest negativity is classed as a hater/troll/whatever, and anyone with anything positive to say is a white knight.
I honestly do not think an actual discussion can take place anymore, as even if someone started one, it would soon devolve the way pretty much every thread has so far.
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
This is true but at the same time the strong supporters here also bring practically nothing to the discussion. They largely involve themselves in the drama as much as "the other side" or PR for CIG (posting screenshots and videos) most of the time without discussing the gameplay (or potential gameplay) depicted in those shots and videos.
People ragging on the game is just part and parcel of the shitfest that is Star Citizen tbh, and a good deal of it is self-made.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Again fine with negative posts, I just think people should take the time to read what's been provided first then, bring up their arguments and what they don't like.
MadFrenchie is a good example of someone who's read up and forming their opinion on it and not just blurting out random negativity
Apparently, good work has been done in terms of motion capture and storytelling, which is nice to see. I'd imagine most of that is finished. Hopefully, they won't want to reshoot it. But I'd expect SQ42 to be pretty far from complete, looking at the progress of SC. You'd see SC in a much more playable state if SQ42 was steadily moving along.
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Whenever someone brings up anything that actually challenges your "what you actually know" (which is precisely nothing), you immediately disregard it as hating and game bashing and you complain they are not moving the discussion "forward"?!
While I do agree that certain people try too hard, the thing is, in case of SC, majority of "negativity" is well justified and founded while all the "positivity" is just blind faith.
Like I said yesterday from what I have seen they should have just released what hey had a month ago, but then again this might be the first time they have had it close to 'stable' and thus was the absolute earliest they could give it to anyone.
You can see the videos and comments from the youtubers and twitch guys who are basically getting paid to be SC shills, even theyre having a hard time getting excited or promoting it. That does say that at least they have enough ethics to not lie straight to their followers faces. But since the ones I have watched (maybe half a dozen) none of them are having an orgasm, then everything else I have read and heard is more than likely true.
In other news: For short while I thought that you guys trying to deny the lack of management skill around SC would be the biggest laugh of the day. Then I jumped on Mr. Smarts Twitter stream. Oh. My. God. The guy is having a total melt down. He has made like 20 posts today trying to spin actual progress into a disaster story. Desperation is setting in. Good times.