The only reason I haven't bought this and wont buy this is because it is not on steam. I hate these rogue companies that think they are hot shit and release their games on whatever shitty downloader they are peddling. I like all my games consolidated in one place and steam is comfy. NO STEAM NO BUY, With the exception of Blizzard......
Just to give everyone a heads up the game hit paid early access on July 25, 2017. Those who have mentioned that they're level ~30 in this game must be playing the game for far longer than 4 hours a day and may have spent money on the game to progress even further.
Now, lets start with the numbers they've provided at 30-160 V-Bucks a day over the period of 8 days that would provide players with 240-1280 as of August 8, 2017.
240-1280 V-Bucks nets you 2-12 Llamas (excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
If you've tried the game out for yourself and have a full understanding of the mechanics, it should be crystal clear at this point that these people are stretching the truth quite a bit at this point.
Of course 2-12 Llama total isn't exactly correct as you can obtain V-Bucks through Storm Missions. How many more V-Bucks said player has obtained at ~30 depends on how many Storm Missions were completed.
The first zone will net you 600 V-bucks and the second zone will net you 600 V-bucks. However, due to the fact that they're ~30 it's safe to assume they've only obtained 300 V-bucks from the second zone as the quest line in that zone ranges from 15-46. This brings the total amount of V-Bucks obtained from Storm Missions alone to 900 giving these players 1140-2180 V-Bucks.
This provides them with 11-21 Llamas to open(excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
Now, depending on whether or not they're destroying various Heroes, Weapons, traps, and survivors to fill their Collection Book they can obtain 500 V-Bucks at level 5 and another 500 V-Bucks at 26 of course there's more higher up the Collection Book however even trying to obtain 26 would cripple their progression greatly (unless they've paid money).
This feat is hard to believe.
Wrong again buddy.
You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
How do Daily Loot Pinata packs work.. are those useless?
No, essentially daily loot pinata packs are the same kind of packs you can buy, but you get one free for that day. If you're talking about the daily packs you get for a founders purchase you'll get upgrade llamas and founders llamas depending on how many daily packs you purchase (depending on your founders pack).
Just to give everyone a heads up the game hit paid early access on July 25, 2017. Those who have mentioned that they're level ~30 in this game must be playing the game for far longer than 4 hours a day and may have spent money on the game to progress even further.
Now, lets start with the numbers they've provided at 30-160 V-Bucks a day over the period of 8 days that would provide players with 240-1280 as of August 8, 2017.
240-1280 V-Bucks nets you 2-12 Llamas (excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
If you've tried the game out for yourself and have a full understanding of the mechanics, it should be crystal clear at this point that these people are stretching the truth quite a bit at this point.
Of course 2-12 Llama total isn't exactly correct as you can obtain V-Bucks through Storm Missions. How many more V-Bucks said player has obtained at ~30 depends on how many Storm Missions were completed.
The first zone will net you 600 V-bucks and the second zone will net you 600 V-bucks. However, due to the fact that they're ~30 it's safe to assume they've only obtained 300 V-bucks from the second zone as the quest line in that zone ranges from 15-46. This brings the total amount of V-Bucks obtained from Storm Missions alone to 900 giving these players 1140-2180 V-Bucks.
This provides them with 11-21 Llamas to open(excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
Now, depending on whether or not they're destroying various Heroes, Weapons, traps, and survivors to fill their Collection Book they can obtain 500 V-Bucks at level 5 and another 500 V-Bucks at 26 of course there's more higher up the Collection Book however even trying to obtain 26 would cripple their progression greatly (unless they've paid money).
This feat is hard to believe.
Wrong again buddy.
You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
Love posters that are in denial. As with any of these games, they are designed to suck you in at low levels so you get far enough where you hit the paywall and are forced to pay and pay to continue. If you want to be a shill for games like this fine, but that does not change the fact that games like this are just a complete waste of time. Enjoy your time in this game because it will soon end. There is no sense of accomplishment when others just buy it!!!
Just to give everyone a heads up the game hit paid early access on July 25, 2017. Those who have mentioned that they're level ~30 in this game must be playing the game for far longer than 4 hours a day and may have spent money on the game to progress even further.
Now, lets start with the numbers they've provided at 30-160 V-Bucks a day over the period of 8 days that would provide players with 240-1280 as of August 8, 2017.
240-1280 V-Bucks nets you 2-12 Llamas (excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
If you've tried the game out for yourself and have a full understanding of the mechanics, it should be crystal clear at this point that these people are stretching the truth quite a bit at this point.
Of course 2-12 Llama total isn't exactly correct as you can obtain V-Bucks through Storm Missions. How many more V-Bucks said player has obtained at ~30 depends on how many Storm Missions were completed.
The first zone will net you 600 V-bucks and the second zone will net you 600 V-bucks. However, due to the fact that they're ~30 it's safe to assume they've only obtained 300 V-bucks from the second zone as the quest line in that zone ranges from 15-46. This brings the total amount of V-Bucks obtained from Storm Missions alone to 900 giving these players 1140-2180 V-Bucks.
This provides them with 11-21 Llamas to open(excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
Now, depending on whether or not they're destroying various Heroes, Weapons, traps, and survivors to fill their Collection Book they can obtain 500 V-Bucks at level 5 and another 500 V-Bucks at 26 of course there's more higher up the Collection Book however even trying to obtain 26 would cripple their progression greatly (unless they've paid money).
This feat is hard to believe.
Wrong again buddy.
You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
Love posters that are in denial. As with any of these games, they are designed to suck you in at low levels so you get far enough where you hit the paywall and are forced to pay and pay to continue. If you want to be a shill for games like this fine, but that does not change the fact that games like this are just a complete waste of time. Enjoy your time in this game because it will soon end. There is no sense of accomplishment when others just buy it!!!
I love posters that don't know what they're talking about.
You're talking about "sucking you in at low levels" ... I'm talking about pre 30 gameplay. Do you know how the game works pre 30 or are you just railing against games that have loot boxes and cash shops because thats your modus operandi?
How do Daily Loot Pinata packs work.. are those useless?
No, essentially daily loot pinata packs are the same kind of packs you can buy, but you get one free for that day. If you're talking about the daily packs you get for a founders purchase you'll get upgrade llamas and founders llamas depending on how many daily packs you purchase (depending on your founders pack).
Are those daily packs received each day? Or just all at once for the founders?
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How do Daily Loot Pinata packs work.. are those useless?
No, essentially daily loot pinata packs are the same kind of packs you can buy, but you get one free for that day. If you're talking about the daily packs you get for a founders purchase you'll get upgrade llamas and founders llamas depending on how many daily packs you purchase (depending on your founders pack).
Are those daily packs received each day? Or just all at once for the founders?
The daily packs you receive 1 llama per day. So if you get 47 daily llamas you have to log in for each day to get your llama.
game has a goddam hardcore grind but pityful reward system, sigh..., give it 6 month to a year and its dead and it's still at the EA stage .... the quest system needs a revamp as u lvl up rewards are the same but it takes longer now why would any intelligent person want to play it when its just a waste of time....
If you are considering buying Fortnite I highly suggest you watch this review by Fevir first. This mimics my own experiences and feelings with it as well and feel it is a much more realistic idea of what you are walking into.
Well, remember that whole thing about helping us with Early Access? Well, here you are, and we want to make the game better. Already our servers are gathering data on your play patterns and we are making sure we are always listening to what's going on out in the wild. One of the things we need help with, is our advancement and loot rates. There isn't a secret cabal of llama hating Illuminati out there who are trying to "trick" you into spending money on the game once you've played it for fifty hours. What there is however is a big RNG(sic) with lots of ins/outs. What makes the problem interesting, and why we need the community's help, is there are a lot of confounding factors in the post 50+ hours experience. Is it the fact that we simply don't drop enough llamas? Is it because we haven't explained how survivors work well enough and how they can make Commanders powerful? Is it a difference between players who binge play, and players who play daily. We could go on here, but it'll probably put you to sleep. There are rough spots in the game and they are going to be interesting problems to solve, and we hear you about them. Stick with us in Early Access and we will continue to make the game better, together.
Just to give everyone a heads up the game hit paid early access on July 25, 2017. Those who have mentioned that they're level ~30 in this game must be playing the game for far longer than 4 hours a day and may have spent money on the game to progress even further.
Now, lets start with the numbers they've provided at 30-160 V-Bucks a day over the period of 8 days that would provide players with 240-1280 as of August 8, 2017.
240-1280 V-Bucks nets you 2-12 Llamas (excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
If you've tried the game out for yourself and have a full understanding of the mechanics, it should be crystal clear at this point that these people are stretching the truth quite a bit at this point.
Of course 2-12 Llama total isn't exactly correct as you can obtain V-Bucks through Storm Missions. How many more V-Bucks said player has obtained at ~30 depends on how many Storm Missions were completed.
The first zone will net you 600 V-bucks and the second zone will net you 600 V-bucks. However, due to the fact that they're ~30 it's safe to assume they've only obtained 300 V-bucks from the second zone as the quest line in that zone ranges from 15-46. This brings the total amount of V-Bucks obtained from Storm Missions alone to 900 giving these players 1140-2180 V-Bucks.
This provides them with 11-21 Llamas to open(excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
Now, depending on whether or not they're destroying various Heroes, Weapons, traps, and survivors to fill their Collection Book they can obtain 500 V-Bucks at level 5 and another 500 V-Bucks at 26 of course there's more higher up the Collection Book however even trying to obtain 26 would cripple their progression greatly (unless they've paid money).
This feat is hard to believe.
Wrong again buddy.
You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
Love posters that are in denial. As with any of these games, they are designed to suck you in at low levels so you get far enough where you hit the paywall and are forced to pay and pay to continue. If you want to be a shill for games like this fine, but that does not change the fact that games like this are just a complete waste of time. Enjoy your time in this game because it will soon end. There is no sense of accomplishment when others just buy it!!!
I love posters that don't know what they're talking about.
You're talking about "sucking you in at low levels" ... I'm talking about pre 30 gameplay. Do you know how the game works pre 30 or are you just railing against games that have loot boxes and cash shops because thats your modus operandi?
Well you are prime example of someone who knows nothing of what they are talking about. This has pay-to-win written all over it which just makes it another crap game that only whales can enjoy.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
How did 7 Days to Die end up being put up in comparison to this game? Because they both have zombies and base building? They are nothing alike. One is open world survival and the other is tower defense.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
It's going to be F2P but currently in the early access phase it costs money to try it. It blatantly says that you have to buy a pack to play it in the games description on the PSN.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
Oh lol idk they did let you download before buying it
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
It's going to be F2P but currently in the early access phase it costs money to try it. It blatantly says that you have to buy a pack to play it in the games description on the PSN.
Yeah, you can skip that too, though, via the store icons. I didn't even realize it until I had left the house and then I had to explain how it's not my fault and the value of money over the phone, lol.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
It's going to be F2P but currently in the early access phase it costs money to try it. It blatantly says that you have to buy a pack to play it in the games description on the PSN.
Early Access is just beta testing, am i the only one who thinks its a bit weird that people have to pay what amounts to AAA game prices to beta test a game that is going to be Free when its finished/released? never mind the whole questionable practice of having cash shops in unfinished games.
Early Access is just beta testing, am i the only one who thinks its a bit weird that people have to pay what amounts to AAA game prices to beta test a game that is going to be Free when its finished/released? never mind the whole questionable practice of having cash shops in unfinished games.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
It's going to be F2P but currently in the early access phase it costs money to try it. It blatantly says that you have to buy a pack to play it in the games description on the PSN.
Early Access is just beta testing, am i the only one who thinks its a bit weird that people have to pay what amounts to AAA game prices to beta test a game that is going to be Free when its finished/released? never mind the whole questionable practice of having cash shops in unfinished games.
I completely agree with you. While I don't agree with it, I feel like the reasoning is they will cash in on people who were willing to pay for the game already, so they can test out features without needing as big of a QA team on their end, essentially earning money for them while costing less to test. They call it Early Access, just so that people don't associate it with a beta test when it is literally just a paid beta, with some bonuses. Some games it's worth it for me simply because I end up really enjoying the game, and the things they give usually end up amounting to more than the original cost you put into the early access. Like when Smite was in alpha, and you could buy the hero packs for half the price they cost now. It panned out for me because the game did super well, but 99% of the time it doesn't end up working that way.
I don't think it's much about testing or so either.
If you understand why they do this early now, I think they wanted to prove the game is financially profitable, and to what extent.
This would gather the attention of the execs at Epic Games to drive more resources to Fortnite's development when the game proved itself quite popular achieving +500k Pre-Orders, I think this was why because people before have already been talking that the game was in risk of getting shelved.
I don't think they saw potential in Fortnite that's why it was always in secondary attention with Epic all hyping up Paragon.
Is this even F2P? Why do I have to buy something? My kid downloaded it on PS4 for Free, but then it prompted him in-game that he had to buy a founders pack (starting at $50), like wtf? That's pretty shady imo. Plus, it made my kid cry, literally, and pissed me off.
It's going to be F2P but currently in the early access phase it costs money to try it. It blatantly says that you have to buy a pack to play it in the games description on the PSN.
Early Access is just beta testing, am i the only one who thinks its a bit weird that people have to pay what amounts to AAA game prices to beta test a game that is going to be Free when its finished/released? never mind the whole questionable practice of having cash shops in unfinished games.
It's all about the exclusivity!!! If not here, then eBay. Shit, when Legion was in CBT, you could actually find keys available for purchase for hundreds of dollars, lol. So the black market is still alive today, it would seem. That being said, founders packs have diminished that secondary market substantially, since very few companies actually do actual non-paid CBT anymore.
Well you are prime example of someone who knows nothing of what they are talking about. This has pay-to-win written all over it which just makes it another crap game that only whales can enjoy.
Another review to reinforce what I said. You have been had!
Did you read what they said? They said before 30 the game requires nothing, but past that he hasn't got a clue because they're no there yet.
You're trying to push so hard how bad is the game, that you haven't realized that they haven't fully disagreed with you
From my own experience, i'm level 16, have a 41 hero, I'm on my level 2 skill tree, have 34 assault and 27 snipe, few level 10 traps and none of that with rl money and I see no reason onward why I would need to pay. I tend to earn the most team points each game, If people are paying, you have no way of knowing and it in no way effects your gameplay.
This whole game is about playing as a team to try get as many points as possible. I will say progression is slow as hell, but still no reason for me to pay anything, I can only see this affecting impatient people imho.
To the topic,
the game is pretty good for early access, still needs some work here and there, but would defo recommend it if you don't mind grinding, maybe they will change that by launch, who knows.
Just to give everyone a heads up the game hit paid early access on July 25, 2017. Those who have mentioned that they're level ~30 in this game must be playing the game for far longer than 4 hours a day and may have spent money on the game to progress even further.
Now, lets start with the numbers they've provided at 30-160 V-Bucks a day over the period of 8 days that would provide players with 240-1280 as of August 8, 2017.
240-1280 V-Bucks nets you 2-12 Llamas (excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
If you've tried the game out for yourself and have a full understanding of the mechanics, it should be crystal clear at this point that these people are stretching the truth quite a bit at this point.
Of course 2-12 Llama total isn't exactly correct as you can obtain V-Bucks through Storm Missions. How many more V-Bucks said player has obtained at ~30 depends on how many Storm Missions were completed.
The first zone will net you 600 V-bucks and the second zone will net you 600 V-bucks. However, due to the fact that they're ~30 it's safe to assume they've only obtained 300 V-bucks from the second zone as the quest line in that zone ranges from 15-46. This brings the total amount of V-Bucks obtained from Storm Missions alone to 900 giving these players 1140-2180 V-Bucks.
This provides them with 11-21 Llamas to open(excluding the special deals that occasionally pop-up).
Now, depending on whether or not they're destroying various Heroes, Weapons, traps, and survivors to fill their Collection Book they can obtain 500 V-Bucks at level 5 and another 500 V-Bucks at 26 of course there's more higher up the Collection Book however even trying to obtain 26 would cripple their progression greatly (unless they've paid money).
This feat is hard to believe.
Wrong again buddy.
You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
Love posters that are in denial. As with any of these games, they are designed to suck you in at low levels so you get far enough where you hit the paywall and are forced to pay and pay to continue. If you want to be a shill for games like this fine, but that does not change the fact that games like this are just a complete waste of time. Enjoy your time in this game because it will soon end. There is no sense of accomplishment when others just buy it!!!
I love posters that don't know what they're talking about.
You're talking about "sucking you in at low levels" ... I'm talking about pre 30 gameplay. Do you know how the game works pre 30 or are you just railing against games that have loot boxes and cash shops because thats your modus operandi?
Well you are prime example of someone who knows nothing of what they are talking about. This has pay-to-win written all over it which just makes it another crap game that only whales can enjoy.
Another review to reinforce what I said. You have been had!
LOL I never said it wasn't pay to win, in fact check my post history, I say it was pay to win weeks ago. What exactly have I "been had" about? The argument wasn't about whether it was pay 2 "win". I think this clearly shows that you don't know what I was saying.
the game is pretty good for early access, still needs some work here and there, but would defo recommend it if you don't mind grinding, maybe they will change that by launch, who knows.
Well they already assumed the criticism at the RNG and loot stores, as well progression that is where the large majority of the feedback is aimed at.
They'll likely do changes, this stuff can and should be presented better, and it needs medium-long term progression for vBucks side of daily quests and logins.
But for early access yeah it's pretty stable, good performance and provides enough gameplay, the rest is to see as they develop.
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You can get up to 10 storm shield mission bonuses per storm shield. They only require you to go through the quest line up to storm shield 6.
On top of that you have dailies, and challenges, each netting anywhere from 30 to 50 each, not to mention mission bonuses, side quests and dailies. Your numbers are way off.
Listen everyone, the truth of the matter is, if you want to farm for vbucks its completely possible.. but vbucks aren't the end all be all of progression like he's even trying to say it is. You are capped on the amount you can get a day but it's certainly more than 50.
On top of that though....
You can get FREE mini llamas and transform them for rare items which can be used to upgrade everything as well. There is no cap on the amount of mini llamas you can get, you can continuously run storm shield missions with people to earn them.
He also fails to mention that the training manuals are able to be earned through other means as well AND that earning the training manuals is such a small part as in comparison to the rain drops and lighting in a bottle and the several other XP requirements you need to upgrade the vBucks are only a small part of it all....
AND lets not even forget that to get to level 25+ all you need to do is progress through the story, unlock the survivor slots and slot an uncommon or rare survivor and leader (which you get enough of before you even hit the middle of plankerton) and level them up to max. It doesn't even require you to use training manuals for them! Just getting all the slots and upgrading them to 10 which costs NO manuals gets you pretty high in level as it is.
And with that being said, I'm level 27 and don't even have the vast majority of survivors past level 5!
So please, if you want to level effectively all it takes is a little know how. The pay wall doesn't hit pre-30. If it hits post 30 I won't know until I get to that point.. but if you're complaining about a pay wall pre 30.... you're not doing it right.
You're talking about "sucking you in at low levels" ... I'm talking about pre 30 gameplay. Do you know how the game works pre 30 or are you just railing against games that have loot boxes and cash shops because thats your modus operandi?
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From the post:
What makes the problem interesting, and why we need the community's help, is there are a lot of confounding factors in the post 50+ hours experience. Is it the fact that we simply don't drop enough llamas? Is it because we haven't explained how survivors work well enough and how they can make Commanders powerful? Is it a difference between players who binge play, and players who play daily. We could go on here, but it'll probably put you to sleep.
There are rough spots in the game and they are going to be interesting problems to solve, and we hear you about them. Stick with us in Early Access and we will continue to make the game better, together.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/08/a-fort-week-with-fortnite-fascinating-f2p-game-but-are-we-having-fun-yet/?comments=1&post=33770641
Another review to reinforce what I said. You have been had!
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Yeah, you can skip that too, though, via the store icons. I didn't even realize it until I had left the house and then I had to explain how it's not my fault and the value of money over the phone, lol.
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If you understand why they do this early now, I think they wanted to prove the game is financially profitable, and to what extent.
This would gather the attention of the execs at Epic Games to drive more resources to Fortnite's development when the game proved itself quite popular achieving +500k Pre-Orders, I think this was why because people before have already been talking that the game was in risk of getting shelved.
I don't think they saw potential in Fortnite that's why it was always in secondary attention with Epic all hyping up Paragon.
It's all about the exclusivity!!! If not here, then eBay. Shit, when Legion was in CBT, you could actually find keys available for purchase for hundreds of dollars, lol. So the black market is still alive today, it would seem. That being said, founders packs have diminished that secondary market substantially, since very few companies actually do actual non-paid CBT anymore.
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You're trying to push so hard how bad is the game, that you haven't realized that they haven't fully disagreed with you
From my own experience, i'm level 16, have a 41 hero, I'm on my level 2 skill tree, have 34 assault and 27 snipe, few level 10 traps and none of that with rl money and I see no reason onward why I would need to pay. I tend to earn the most team points each game, If people are paying, you have no way of knowing and it in no way effects your gameplay.
This whole game is about playing as a team to try get as many points as possible. I will say progression is slow as hell, but still no reason for me to pay anything, I can only see this affecting impatient people imho.
To the topic,
the game is pretty good for early access, still needs some work here and there, but would defo recommend it if you don't mind grinding, maybe they will change that by launch, who knows.
They'll likely do changes, this stuff can and should be presented better, and it needs medium-long term progression for vBucks side of daily quests and logins.
But for early access yeah it's pretty stable, good performance and provides enough gameplay, the rest is to see as they develop.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.