Well, for the agree/disagree button, on a more serious post...
We have insightful, awesome and LOL as all positive posts. Some here think LOL is bad (but now we have the WTF button), but it means you made someone laugh or/and the post was funny. So we have 3 positives and 1 negative.
Insightful is a good one, as it means the post was knowledgeable or/and someone learned something from it.
Awesome is as it says, a freakin awesome post man
LOL means the post was funny
WTF is the negative one, and it means the post is bad and you probably triggered someone and could be seen as the "disagree" button, it kinda serves the same purpose.
We don't really have a way to "agree" with a post with just a button. None of the above 3 positive ones really match up.
However, a disagree button would be hilarious. Drive-by disagree like I posted the other day. Oh boy would that annoy people. But in terms of forum usage, I think that be abused by trolls (I would! At least I'm honest lol) and make more people annoyed and not use the forum. It would be hilarious to see all the people triggered by it, because someone is bound to start ranting and raging cause someone did a drive-by disagree. But I dunno how helpful that is to the actual forum in the long run.
Disagree will never be a thing. I'm not a huge fan of WTF, either, but we can trial it out and see how it goes if you guys really want to keep it.
Yep WTF is immature and doesnt belong on these forums. it needs to go.
If any of them could be insulting it would be LOL. WTF is more like "triggered". Having a WTF moment just means you and that other person are completely disconnected in perspective. How is that insulting? But I suppose anything can be twisted around. Don't be such a curmudgeon.
I have used LOL a ton for funny posts.
WTF has zero use to me, so I dont see any point to having it.
It is litterally useless to WTF a post.
WTF is nothing like triggered IMO.
WTF example: someone replying detailed steps on changing an alternator on a 2007 civic, when the questions was about video cards.
So WTF is pretty much an edge case scenario so why even have it?
I've used them all at one time or another... plus people could always type them in instead of clicking a tab.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Well, for the agree/disagree button, on a more serious post...
We have insightful, awesome and LOL as all positive posts. Some here think LOL is bad (but now we have the WTF button), but it means you made someone laugh or/and the post was funny. So we have 3 positives and 1 negative.
Insightful is a good one, as it means the post was knowledgeable or/and someone learned something from it.
Awesome is as it says, a freakin awesome post man
LOL means the post was funny
WTF is the negative one, and it means the post is bad and you probably triggered someone and could be seen as the "disagree" button, it kinda serves the same purpose.
We don't really have a way to "agree" with a post with just a button. None of the above 3 positive ones really match up.
However, a disagree button would be hilarious. Drive-by disagree like I posted the other day. Oh boy would that annoy people. But in terms of forum usage, I think that be abused by trolls (I would! At least I'm honest lol) and make more people annoyed and not use the forum. It would be hilarious to see all the people triggered by it, because someone is bound to start ranting and raging cause someone did a drive-by disagree. But I dunno how helpful that is to the actual forum in the long run.
Disagree will never be a thing. I'm not a huge fan of WTF, either, but we can trial it out and see how it goes if you guys really want to keep it.
Yep WTF is immature and doesnt belong on these forums. it needs to go.
If any of them could be insulting it would be LOL. WTF is more like "triggered". Having a WTF moment just means you and that other person are completely disconnected in perspective. How is that insulting? But I suppose anything can be twisted around. Don't be such a curmudgeon.
I have used LOL a ton for funny posts.
WTF has zero use to me, so I dont see any point to having it.
It is litterally useless to WTF a post.
WTF is nothing like triggered IMO.
WTF example: someone replying detailed steps on changing an alternator on a 2007 civic, when the questions was about video cards.
So WTF is pretty much an edge case scenario so why even have it?
I've used them all at one time or another... plus people could always type them in instead of clicking a tab.
And ignore them... I mean.. who really goes and scrolls back through a thread to count the LOLs or Agrees he gets? If you actually do that... It would be WTF worthy!
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Did they have to put a :hover on all of their styles? It's kind of weird, and I'm sure hell for mobile users. (the command works like a click action, have to double click hover action links... Can't really get past this flaw with exception of scripts.)
Other than that and new forum software, doesn't seem like anything different was done. And the reaction counters are seriously broken... change the margin... .example {position:absolute;margin-top:10px;margin-left:10px; }
edit: nvm that only applies to the quote button because the others disappear til you hover over them. So the 2nd and 3rd wont be seen my bad. The people who have signatures show the people who reacted on the top line of sig. and those w/o a signature show the reactions behind the reaction and quote buttons.
Forums are for discussion when things get out of hand then moderators step in. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone's point of view. I understand they want to keep the negativity to a minimum but if you don't provide an outlet the posters will create one.
If I disagree with someone I can just click that tab and move on. If it's not there and I want to share that I disagree then I have to post something which will be a lot more than just posting 'I disagree with that', imo.
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But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
Funny how that word "first" brings so much reaction from so many....I imagine millions, if not billions, have been made in this industry because of that word.
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
Funny how that word "first" brings so much reaction from so many....I imagine millions, if not billions, have been made in this industry because of that word.
I do know how to get a reaction
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I agree...WHERE?This site went months as a non secure website,way too slow to react,a piss poor effort.Years where the site could not figure out paragraphs,sometimes bumbling several sentences into one giant lump of words. So seems the priorities here are severely lacking on what this site really needs.
Gaming articles/content this is what this site should be focusing on. When some developer comers forth,stick their AGENDA in the advertising section.Keep the articles AWAY from advertising agenda,in other words ,quit the bullshit.NOBODY likes disguised partnered advertising click bait and it is VERY obvious when it happens.
So spend some effort into turning this site around and get it moving towards a Quality gaming website. Right now it is the users providing 90% of the content,the site is supplying 90% of the click bait.
Integrity,gaming,honesty,NO BS agenda,make this site proud and lose all the nonsense.
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I agree...WHERE?This site went months as a non secure website,way too slow to react,a piss poor effort.Years where the site could not figure out paragraphs,sometimes bumbling several sentences into one giant lump of words. So seems the priorities here are severely lacking on what this site really needs.
Gaming articles/content this is what this site should be focusing on. When some developer comers forth,stick their AGENDA in the advertising section.Keep the articles AWAY from advertising agenda,in other words ,quit the bullshit.NOBODY likes disguised partnered advertising click bait and it is VERY obvious when it happens.
So spend some effort into turning this site around and get it moving towards a Quality gaming website. Right now it is the users providing 90% of the content,the site is supplying 90% of the click bait.
Integrity,gaming,honesty,NO BS agenda,make this site proud and lose all the nonsense.
oHhhh Hot Dam ... !! Now i see why they added the WTF button .... here ya go Wizardry
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
I bet the reason you dont want it is because you cant counter it, there's no way to disagree with the one disagreeing with you in a reaction.
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
I bet the reason you dont want it is because you cant counter it, there's no way to disagree with the one disagreeing with you in a reaction.
That's the beauty of WTF.. it has many different uses!
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But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
I bet the reason you dont want it is because you cant counter it, there's no way to disagree with the one disagreeing with you in a reaction.
That's the beauty of WTF.. it has many different uses!
I mean lets say there was a disagree button and I clicked this post with it all you could do is type my name in a reply asking why I disagreed if you were so inclined to want to know why. But if I made a reply saying that I disagreed you could reply back.
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
I bet the reason you dont want it is because you cant counter it, there's no way to disagree with the one disagreeing with you in a reaction.
That's the beauty of WTF.. it has many different uses!
I mean lets say there was a disagree button and I clicked this post with it all you could do is type my name in a reply asking why I disagreed if you were so inclined to want to know why. But if I made a reply saying that I disagreed you could reply back.
You guys take the clicks too seriously Honestly, I can pretty much guarantee that I wouldn't go back and check to see if you disagreed with one of my posts... or LOLed.. or WTF.. or anything else.
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
But you agreeing or disagreeing with something is not healthy for a discussion.
The reasons why you agree or disagree is what moves it forward.
Pressing a button is kinda a "one-sided" method of response that doesn't help even the poster. If badges and all the meta-game it had is not a thing anymore I say remove all buttons and just let the post numbers appears.
Agreed, I think this sort of stuff can fall highly on non-discussion. There's no contribution what-so-ever to said discussion at the end.
I disagree.
The paradox. Is so real!
See? It still contributed more to the thread than just clicking a "Disagree" reaction.
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
I bet the reason you dont want it is because you cant counter it, there's no way to disagree with the one disagreeing with you in a reaction.
That's the beauty of WTF.. it has many different uses!
I mean lets say there was a disagree button and I clicked this post with it all you could do is type my name in a reply asking why I disagreed if you were so inclined to want to know why. But if I made a reply saying that I disagreed you could reply back.
You guys take the clicks too seriously Honestly, I can pretty much guarantee that I wouldn't go back and check to see if you disagreed with one of my posts... or LOLed.. or WTF.. or anything else.
I would still like to Lobby for STFU button , i see at least 6 times i would have hit it in this thread alone
The lack of English comprehension is strong with these ones...
Agreeing or disagreeing is the basis of an argument. Or what the younguns these days call "conversation." Not the same thing. Difference is in definition two of argument. An argument is formal, a conversation is not. An argument between multiple parties is called a convention.
ar·gu·ment
ˈärɡyəmənt/
noun
1.
an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one.
I think if there was to be a WTF button, having it renamed to "disagree" sounds more polite and better. The WTF doesn't really even fit the theme of the other buttons anyway, I guess maybe LOL sort of, but not really.
I've pretty much sided with DMKano on this one, the WTF doesn't really provide anything meaningful. The LOL doesn't really either, but at least people know the post is funny or something, like a comedy post. But WTF is kinda douchey and troll-like response. Granted, I'd use "disagree" as a troll button anyway as well if that was a thing but still, "disagree" is more like the drive-by troll response, and WTF is just the normal douchey troll that stalks the internet response
With that said...there are definitely some WTF posts and threads out there...but "disagree" would work in far more situations and wouldn't really be that "negative", but probably get overused. Always lots of people that disagree with others lol.
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I'd never use it, but if you make it simple for people to self-censor content they object to we'd probably have many less hurt feelings.
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Other than that and new forum software, doesn't seem like anything different was done. And the reaction counters are seriously broken... change the margin...
.example {position:absolute;margin-top:10px;margin-left:10px; }
I would rather have "disagree" than "WTF".
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If I disagree with someone I can just click that tab and move on. If it's not there and I want to share that I disagree then I have to post something which will be a lot more than just posting 'I disagree with that', imo.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
So seems the priorities here are severely lacking on what this site really needs.
Gaming articles/content this is what this site should be focusing on.
When some developer comers forth,stick their AGENDA in the advertising section.Keep the articles AWAY from advertising agenda,in other words ,quit the bullshit.NOBODY likes disguised partnered advertising click bait and it is VERY obvious when it happens.
So spend some effort into turning this site around and get it moving towards a Quality gaming website.
Right now it is the users providing 90% of the content,the site is supplying 90% of the click bait.
Integrity,gaming,honesty,NO BS agenda,make this site proud and lose all the nonsense.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
oHhhh Hot Dam ... !! Now i see why they added the WTF button .... here ya go Wizardry
We all know on the internet everybody is always right about everything so agree to disagree is just a mere illusion, we shall disagree on internet forums until the end of times.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I would still like to Lobby for STFU button , i see at least 6 times i would have hit it in this thread alone
Agreeing or disagreeing is the basis of an argument. Or what the younguns these days call "conversation." Not the same thing. Difference is in definition two of argument. An argument is formal, a conversation is not. An argument between multiple parties is called a convention.
con·ver·sa·tion
I've pretty much sided with DMKano on this one, the WTF doesn't really provide anything meaningful. The LOL doesn't really either, but at least people know the post is funny or something, like a comedy post. But WTF is kinda douchey and troll-like response. Granted, I'd use "disagree" as a troll button anyway as well if that was a thing
With that said...there are definitely some WTF posts and threads out there...but "disagree" would work in far more situations and wouldn't really be that "negative", but probably get overused. Always lots of people that disagree with others lol.
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Can't WTF myself though. So sad.
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