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Should a professional game site post an article about reddit leaks that break NDA?
PottedPlant22
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No opinion one way or other from me. Curious what the community here thinks.
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"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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I would hope so! Honestly it just propagates badness. There are enough assumptions made in Open Betas which have shown to disappoint people on release, never mind Closed.
Crazkanuk
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For starters, the "source" can already be construed to be vermin since their word (aka. them clicking the little button that said "yep, I won't disclose this) is worthless.. Secondly, despite my "free the information!" stance, I am not devoid of a sense of journalistic responsibility and integrity.. There is a time to provide information (such as when the public is being genuinely deceived) and a time not to (such as in respecting a company's right to protect their prosperity)..
Imagine how quickly that leaked beta information could become a severe problem.. Since beta features are usually subject to change, these leaks may be very inaccurate.. Sure, they may have truthful observations of features or changes that make it into the finished project, but when has that NOT happened? Suddenly, news (that can be dubious) spins out of control and opinion of the game shifts to the negative before it even exits Beta.. Some devs might rush to panic-mode and, in an attempt to stem the tide of player disfavor, end up hurting the game overall.. Don't even get me started on how quickly this could ultimately spiral into investor panic, studio collapse, and lost jobs..
Back in the day, you were pretty damn lucky to do anything Beta oriented and it was kind of an honor.. We didn't have pre-orders.. Or early access.. We bought the game off the shelf and it was great or it sucked.. Modern times aid us a lot in providing reports before release from game critics that allow us to make up our minds BEFORE we shell out the cash.. Relying on game critics, who legitimately get access to pre-launch copies, solves most of the problems of worrying whether or not a game will be worth it.. Plus, I'd rather formulate my own opinions on what I see and hear from informed sources..
I want accurate information on my games as much as possible, but not at the cost of what might eventually come to pass.. At some point, devs will just say F-it and stop trusting players completely.. With no betas, time to produce games will take even longer and more bugs will slip past dev scrutiny.. In the end, game companies, distributors, and players alike will all suffer..
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"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Normally the devs should be given some privacy to work and freedom to release information about their game at their own pace. Websites shouldn't post information under NDA just to get more readers.
But on the other hand I think news websites should not respect NDA to the point of hiding important information from us for too long. If a game already asking for our money looks like it has problems, or that it's not what we expect, then websites should be ready to ignore NDA and tell us about it.
"The problem with a leak like this isn’t “people finding out about how the game is going to be”. It’s quite the opposite: it’s still in development, it’s not ready for that kind of scrutiny, and that leads to misunderstandings and misconceptions that are doing nothing but a disservice to the game, the team working on it, and future players.
The Closed Beta is under NDA as we are still doing changes, additions, tweaks, and improvements for what will be in the release version. Nothing is set in stone yet and many of the details here are still in development and were planned to be made ready to test for future beta updates.
There is too much here to address individually, but one example of misinformation is the idea of the investigation missions having changed: they haven’t. We added one investigation mission tutorial. Combat is another thing we’re heavily focused on right now. Only a few weapons are currently available in the beta, to give everyone a chance to give feedback, to make sure each feels fun and balanced. For example, the information released about Blood is invalid, since the weapon isn’t currently available on the beta servers.
We have always made sure press and influencers have access to pre-launch betas so that they can report from our games before they release. We will do the same for Secret World Legends, but need the chance to polish the silverware, put up the lights, and sweep the floors before we lift the NDA and open for everyone to evaluate the game and judge us on what we’re delivering.
I should also mention that we’re doing another edition of our biweekly developer stream tomorrow, April 7, on Twitch.tv/Funcom in case anyone wants to tune in! We’ll be discussing more about Secret World Legends, specifically about the content that we feel is ready to talk about.
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If you don't, then someone else will beat you to it and steal your advertising clicks. Any game company that held that against you as a journalist are morons.
Just make sure you heavily preface your article with "While we don't condone breaking NDA's, as it's a bad practice all around, it is being reported that..."
Unsurprising.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It is strictly the developers fault for bringing this about. The only thing this has to do with integrity is the developers greed.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
If it were to be the end of the world, then there wouldn't be a closed beta at all and only people with TS/SCI clearances and a current CI polygraph (like myself) would be allowed into them. My 16 year old son got into a couple of closed betas with NDA's. You might as well let Edward Snowden into your closed beta if you're going to hand it out to kids with no real concept of what it means.
Scares me that you have security clearance.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I then stated that once the hole is in the dam, it's stupid to stand there as a journalist and say "Nope, that information isn't really out there. Just gonna ignore it". Once it's out, it's out.
Also, right and wrong is absolutely not binary in any way shape or form and a great deal of it is based on perspective and upbringing. You and I, for instance, probably wouldn't stone our sisters to death for dressing like a slut and sleeping around with several boyfriends. In many Muslim countries, to the contrary, she is breaking the law and stoning is fitting punishment, and in their eyes it's absolutely the right thing to do.