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Why do people think computers are expensive?
hatefulpeace
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I was thinking while I went snowmobiling yesterday, I have a really old low end snowmobile 1998 xcr 600, it's worth like a grand. People went by me on the trail with 10 to 15 grand machines. Now where I live snowmobiles are useable like 1s to 2s a year maybe. Some times not at all. Yet here are people who have 15 grand machines for thier hobby.
I don't understand why people think a computer like a 7700k 1080ti are expensive. It's like 1400 if you make it your self, or most 2000. Maybe 2500 if you buy a higher end 4k monitor. A computer is usefully 24 7 , most people who have one use it 5 through 14 hours a day. They last up to 5 plus years.
So are the majority of gamers just generally more poor compared to every one else? Or what is it. I mean snowmobiles are just one. Race cars, 4 wheelers, sports cars, hunting, intact almost every hobby is 10 times more expensive than pc gaming.
I don't understand why people think a computer like a 7700k 1080ti are expensive. It's like 1400 if you make it your self, or most 2000. Maybe 2500 if you buy a higher end 4k monitor. A computer is usefully 24 7 , most people who have one use it 5 through 14 hours a day. They last up to 5 plus years.
So are the majority of gamers just generally more poor compared to every one else? Or what is it. I mean snowmobiles are just one. Race cars, 4 wheelers, sports cars, hunting, intact almost every hobby is 10 times more expensive than pc gaming.
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There are those of us who work hard for a living, but have to spend money on bills and rent and food and car insurance and possibly children who love gaming but can not always afford the best parts. Personally I work retail and can't afford everything I want, so while you are basically insulting the majority of the PC community for not having disposable incomes, you are insulting the average person like me who work hard for what they can get.
Entitled much?
Friend told me I spend a lot on computer games, ironically though, he spends a lot on his car and IDGAF about that.
Priorities I guess.
How am I insulting you. I didn't say people who couldn't afford computers are bad. I was trying to figure out why people think pc gaming is expensive. When compared to every other hobby everywhere minus a few like console gaming, it is cheap as dirt.
I gotta give the snowmobile community props though, even though I was rocking a 1000 dollar junker, no helmet, and garbage snowmobile cloths worth like 50 bucks, they were all nice to me. Offered to help me when my belt blew up.
The point was not to offend you, obviously I'm poor compared to all those people. I have the same cloths I've had for 10 years, my snowmobile is a junker I gotta fix every day, my house is a double wide from 20 years ago, I eat ramen noodles.
The point is computers when compared to other hobbies is not expensive as people make it look.
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So, before christmas I bought my brother an xbox 1 for his birthday. Cost me £250 for Xbox 1 S with Battlefield 1. That console will last him a minimum of 3 years.
If I wanted to buy him a gaming PC that would last him for the next 3 years, I'm looking at £750 - £1000 minimum, up to £2000+ for a top spec. So, the comparison is not good.
Similarly, you need to take into account the ages of gamers. Average age is now around 30 for gamers, so your average gamer has to pay for education, cars, rent / mortgage, maybe marriage and first / second child.....there are a lot of big expenses during this time of our lives, on top of shitty wages as we're waiting for promotions and the like. So, finding £1000 for a new computer is a lot.
So yeh, compared to a snow mobile, they're cheap, but in general they aren't.
Yeah console gaming is slightly cheaper. Not by much. Especially when you add in the 9.99 a month fee to just use it online. It is cheaper though. So your saying pc gaming is considered expensive because people generally compare it to consoles. That makes sense then.
Even though it's a huge generalisation (there will be many exceptions), the average person playing video games is very different to the average person owning a snowmobile. Advertisers are interested in games because of the golden demographic - that is males 18-25, who represent a big chunk of gamers. My guess is that this golden chunk is actually the second biggest, following teenage males (12-18).
Teenagers have very little to spend. The possibility of spending 1000$ on a PC was completely out of reach when I was 15. I often buy video games and upgrade my PC. But this hobby represents the majority of my disposable income. It's the same of my friends - even if they have decent full-time jobs, upgrading a computer means spending the majority of money you have. If you were 21 and making enough not to feel 1000$ at all, you likely wouldn't have time to play games.
My father's hobby are cars and motorbikes. He has a group of 10 friends who often ride together around Europe. All of the people are small business owners, with above average income. Some of them also play games - but if they do, they have 1-2 favourite games. They won't be following latest trends. They also won't be of the main interest to the industry. The one exception are Free-To-Play mobile games. From what I understand, my dad's possy would be the ideal customer for Farmville.
Yeah, I tend to agree with him. Also, when you talk about the monthly, that's valid, but what about computer components? I mean if you want to have the highest performance possible, then you're switching our your graphics card like, what? Every 2-3 years? Also, consoles are just easier to use in general, so it makes them more accessible. The biggest problem facing PCs, as far as I see it, is convincing people of their value. I think you'd have difficulties selling a regular Joe on a $1000, top-of-the-line gaming PC. Most can't really tell the difference unless you give them side-by-sides.
Honestly, I think it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the cleanest, most realistic graphics, then PC is probably the way to go. If you want to pick up and play, then console is probably better. Actually, console is probably better for large-screen gaming, too. I say that tongue-in-cheek because I have my main gaming PC hooked up to a TV in my bedroom, lol. That's only because I use it primarily for games that aren't twitchy, so I don't much care about responsiveness.
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So, ok someone has a 15k snow mobile. Does that mean everyone has a 15k snow mobile? Are the people who own a 15k snow mobile also the same people complaining that computers are expensive?
Are the people who complain about expensive computers also people who own expensive snow mobiles or motor cycles or boats?
For some people computers are expensive. As well as snow mobiles, boats, cars, motorcycles, etc.
And, as some have indicated, "priorities".
I just spent 2k on a new computer and 5k on an Italy trip but don't really feel buying a car is worth it as I live in a city and don't need or want one.
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Gaming PC's also become outdated a lot faster then other electronic products.
So, why should you put so much money into a hobby where you cant benefit socially?
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC59QVuMC0suY-jjTHneKYgA$50k a year puts you in the top 15% of earners.
$100,000 a year puts you in the top 2% of earners.
This is gross income. $2000 is not an insignificant amount of money at these income levels. Especially once you start looking at remaining discretionary income after normal expenditures. As others have said, people make their own priorities, but gaming PC's are expensive to most of the population.
So to answer your question again (and the same as others) it's priorities and what people value.
A girlfriend of mine spends quite a lot per month on classes for yoga, circus arts, handstand class and the gym. We go to the same gym and I now spend $60 per month on the gym over what I used to spend ($10) as she belongs and it's easier to go with an exercise partner.
She now wants to take classes at the gym as well as personal training. I said "no" not because I can't afford it but because I don't want to pay it. Her priorities are physical fitness "all the time" and mine are physical fitness "not all the time".
As I said above, bought a new computer and went to Italy but feel a car is a waste of money. I'll go to Paris, and London next year and Vienna and Spain the year after that.
But I would never spend money on camping gear or, say, "having a family".
Other people would. It's all about what people value over other things. It's not how much money it's what that money is being spent for.
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But you didn't say that in your OP. That's an incredibly specific scenario. You're question was,
If you wanted to know why people who buy other high ticket items think PC gaming is expensive, then just ask that. Which, btw, Sovrath has answered for you anyway.
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