I don't know about anyone else, but I've been of the opinion that OR needs something exclusive - maybe not necessarily exclusive to it's hardware, but most certainly VR-exclusive.
I won't claim there were never any, but I can't think of any hardware devices for gaming that have been able to gain traction without some stellar exclusives. And that includes PC GPU adoption.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been of the opinion that OR needs something exclusive - maybe not necessarily exclusive to it's hardware, but most certainly VR-exclusive.
I won't claim there were never any, but I can't think of any hardware devices for gaming that have been able to gain traction without some stellar exclusives. And that includes PC GPU adoption.
Nanfoodle was saying that my example of high end speakers prooves as one item of example that there is a demand for high end goods was a bad example because with speakers you can play any music unlike Oculus which in theory you cant if you have games/apps designed specifically for it.
I am ready to talk with him about cars next, then boats, then homes and at somepoint maybe people will understand that YES...'high end' markets are viable
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Babyrage no poll for under $100. Better yet if a poll that says NOT INTERESTED.
These game developers are SMART people,they have a lot of knowledgeable employees in their professions,that is what i want to see,is them using their smarts and showing it in the game designs.Give me at least 60% of what you know,not 25% of your best effort.When devs get to the stage of giving me 60% of their best effort,then we can think about adding VR.
Right now VR is like trying to put a $600 dollar tire on a Smart Car,it is still going to drive and be a Smart Car.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been of the opinion that OR needs something exclusive - maybe not necessarily exclusive to it's hardware, but most certainly VR-exclusive.
I won't claim there were never any, but I can't think of any hardware devices for gaming that have been able to gain traction without some stellar exclusives. And that includes PC GPU adoption.
And that is exactly the problem with VR. There is nothing that it can do exclusively that would be disrupting enough to make it into a real mass market mega hit. In the end it is just a display device. Head tracking is a neat gimmick but that alone will not carry this technology.
I seriously keep trying to find any disruptive exclusive feature that could launch this technology but i can't find any.
If i think about AR i can immediately think of 20-30 things it would completely change and disrupt. It has a profound effect on everyday life without losing the connection to real life. Something VR will never have.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
I'd pay 599 for it, the problem is it doesn't cost anywhere close to that here.
Canadian its $844 before tax and shipping, PC to run it $1500 for low end specs. PC thats going to take advanatge of it, $2k. So thats almost $3k to get into VR lol
I'd pay 599 for it, the problem is it doesn't cost anywhere close to that here.
Canadian its $844 before tax and shipping, PC to run it $1500 for low end specs. PC thats going to take advanatge of it, $2k. So thats almost $3k to get into VR lol
I buy a new gaming PC every three years regardless...like clock work, for decades
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I'd pay 599 for it, the problem is it doesn't cost anywhere close to that here.
Canadian its $844 before tax and shipping, PC to run it $1500 for low end specs. PC thats going to take advanatge of it, $2k. So thats almost $3k to get into VR lol
I buy a new gaming PC every three years regardless...like clock work, for decades
I'd pay 599 for it, the problem is it doesn't cost anywhere close to that here.
Canadian its $844 before tax and shipping, PC to run it $1500 for low end specs. PC thats going to take advanatge of it, $2k. So thats almost $3k to get into VR lol
I buy a new gaming PC every three years regardless...like clock work, for decades
Happy for you???
I dont know if its true anymore but that was the average for all computers purchased. Every 3 years new PC = average
so basically no...you dont include the price of the car when shopping for sport tires
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I dont mind the price, but they shouldnt send a controller with it,, nor should they have told the price beforehand.. mistakes from their side.. but the price in itself is not that bad.
Wouldnt pay more than $400. Even thats a stretch and itd have to be an impulse buy. Good chance I wouldnt do it anyway.
$350 ill definitely get but $300 would be perfect. Sony said it would cost the same as a console, if they keep that promise Oculus is in trouble even if the PSVR isnt "as good". $600 is ridiculous and a guaranteed price drop within the first year.
Most importantly though they need to work with what ever 3D HDMI signal I put in. If it needs to be "PS4" or "Oculus Ready" to be able to play, wouldnt buy either regardless. Its fine if they release "optimized" content for each device but everything else needs to be playable. That goes double for PS4.
Wouldnt pay more than $400. Even thats a stretch and itd have to be an impulse buy. Good chance I wouldnt do it anyway.
$350 ill definitely get but $300 would be perfect. Sony said it would cost the same as a console, if they keep that promise Oculus is in trouble even if the PSVR isnt "as good". $600 is ridiculous and a guaranteed price drop within the first year.
Most importantly though they need to work with what ever 3D HDMI signal I put in. If it needs to be "PS4" or "Oculus Ready" to be able to play, wouldnt buy either regardless. Its fine if they release "optimized" content for each device but everything else needs to be playable. That goes double for PS4.
The PS4 uses external hardware so it will never be compatible with PC unless there is a way to use it without that hardware. I seriously doubt that although it would be an incredible smart move for SONY to do it.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
The PS4 uses external hardware so it will never be compatible with PC unless there is a way to use it without that hardware. I seriously doubt that although it would be an incredible smart move for SONY to do it.
Well to be fair the external box that comes with PS VR is just a standard USB and an HDMI. With USB they COULD require drivers if they wanted to implement it that way, but my guess is itll just be to power the extra device. Or maybe just to use for extra interface features with the PS4 (PS Camera, PS Move, etc).
Who knows. All I do know is its not worth it to me if it can only work on their specific platforms. Something that costs upwards of $300 to $600 should display any HDMI feed I plug it into.
The PS4 uses external hardware so it will never be compatible with PC unless there is a way to use it without that hardware. I seriously doubt that although it would be an incredible smart move for SONY to do it.
Who knows. All I do know is its not worth it to me if it can only work on their specific platforms. Something that costs upwards of $300 to $600 should display any HDMI feed I plug it into.
I agree, that's why i bought a 4K Monitor and i LOVE it! I buy a second one before i buy a VR headset with shit resolution, that is for sure.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
Still not seeing any announcement of VR games from large developers, I don't think this VR stuff is going anywhere.
There won't be because it takes a couple of years to make AAA and these developers do not start creating content for a Product that is not even on the market yet and has questionable adoption rate.
Still not seeing any announcement of VR games from large developers, I don't think this VR stuff is going anywhere.
CCP is large
and given that consoles cant realistically handle VR i wouldnt expect to much from the so called 'AAA' market.
I love how SEANMCAD always comes up with these wild theories. I am not sure how to read this strange message but there are a few options and none of them make any sense.
There will be no AAA games for VR because:
1. AAA is only produced for consoles. (LOL) 2. AAA companies only make games when they are also releasing on console. (ROFL) 3. Only when consoles can handle VR there will be AAA games for VR (SMH)
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar Authored 139 missions in VendettaOnline and 6 tracks in Distance
VR is still in its infancy. The hardware is worth the price. The problem is buying into new technology now is costly. I will give it a couple of years and some competing companies before I step into VR.
Personally I am not going to buy into a system that requires the latest and greatest computer system to run it. Blizzards success with World of Warcraft is that anyone could play it the day it went live for the most part. Until a VR vender can provide me a system that does not require me to go out and buy a mega computer system to run VR headset and controllers I will not buy it.
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I won't claim there were never any, but I can't think of any hardware devices for gaming that have been able to gain traction without some stellar exclusives. And that includes PC GPU adoption.
I am ready to talk with him about cars next, then boats, then homes and at somepoint maybe people will understand that YES...'high end' markets are viable
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Magic Eye Inc. made random dot stereograms famous in the 90's; look at this picture, can you see the dolphin?
I don't see a dolphin. What dolphin? What's wrong with me? Why can't I see a dolphin?
Better yet if a poll that says NOT INTERESTED.
These game developers are SMART people,they have a lot of knowledgeable employees in their professions,that is what i want to see,is them using their smarts and showing it in the game designs.Give me at least 60% of what you know,not 25% of your best effort.When devs get to the stage of giving me 60% of their best effort,then we can think about adding VR.
Right now VR is like trying to put a $600 dollar tire on a Smart Car,it is still going to drive and be a Smart Car.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I seriously keep trying to find any disruptive exclusive feature that could launch this technology but i can't find any.
If i think about AR i can immediately think of 20-30 things it would completely change and disrupt. It has a profound effect on everyday life without losing the connection to real life. Something VR will never have.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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so basically no...you dont include the price of the car when shopping for sport tires
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So basically nothing has changed in all those years.
Starting at 450€
https://www.brack.ch/sony-playstation-vr-366182?utm_source=366182&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=toppreise
http://www.techmania.ch/Sony/PlayStation-VR/prod-PLAYSTATIONVR
http://www.internet.ch/product_info.php?products_id=3509671&ad=Toppreise&language=fr
it DOESNT come with extra hardware? thus it is about as good as the Oculus Rift DK1 released more than a year ago?
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$350 ill definitely get but $300 would be perfect. Sony said it would cost the same as a console, if they keep that promise Oculus is in trouble even if the PSVR isnt "as good". $600 is ridiculous and a guaranteed price drop within the first year.
Most importantly though they need to work with what ever 3D HDMI signal I put in. If it needs to be "PS4" or "Oculus Ready" to be able to play, wouldnt buy either regardless. Its fine if they release "optimized" content for each device but everything else needs to be playable. That goes double for PS4.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Who knows. All I do know is its not worth it to me if it can only work on their specific platforms. Something that costs upwards of $300 to $600 should display any HDMI feed I plug it into.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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and given that consoles cant realistically handle VR i wouldnt expect to much from the so called 'AAA' market.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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I love how SEANMCAD always comes up with these wild theories. I am not sure how to read this strange message but there are a few options and none of them make any sense.
There will be no AAA games for VR because:
1. AAA is only produced for consoles. (LOL)
2. AAA companies only make games when they are also releasing on console. (ROFL)
3. Only when consoles can handle VR there will be AAA games for VR (SMH)
Anyone got some ideas what he meant?
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
Personally I am not going to buy into a system that requires the latest and greatest computer system to run it. Blizzards success with World of Warcraft is that anyone could play it the day it went live for the most part. Until a VR vender can provide me a system that does not require me to go out and buy a mega computer system to run VR headset and controllers I will not buy it.