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  • SwampDragonsSwampDragons KavlingePosts: 324Member Uncommon
    I'm a Pocamon
  • MaquiameMaquiame Posts: 799Member Uncommon
    ArcheAge and EQN will be the future of roleplay, mark my words.

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    Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member
    Originally posted by SwampDragons
    I'm a Pocamon

     

    Is that a small species of creatures kept as pets that are forced to live in cramped living spaces and force to periodically fight because of their aggressive natures?  Oh, and do they all look like one aspect of Pocahontas?  Like one is an eyebrow, one is a nose, one is an eyeball, etc.?  Or do they all look like Pocky candy?

     

    Anyway, I am literally of two minds about role playing.  While I'm playing, one part of my mind is running in "role play" mode, working out what the avatar is thinking, why they are doing what they are doing, etc.  Another part of my mind is running the "game play" mode, where I'm working out all the numbers.  What is it like for a Blood Elf Hunter to see Panderia for the first time in parallel with whether or not I'll get through more than one combat rotation before this mob dies.

     

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  • ArdnutArdnut LondonPosts: 188Member

    i suppose when you play any game online your roleplaying anyway. you dont play yourself, your playing a characer you rolled up. when people talk to you in game, do they address you by your real name or by the name of a character you are playing?

    (would you talk to people like some bucketmouths do in chat if they knew your real name?)

    you respond as your character, not as yourself - so rp is still there to a small measure. if you say you dont roll play in games, do you create characters that look identical to yourself and give them your name and do things you would do irl instead of jumping off cliffs and going up to people who you've never seen before and hitting them over the head for no reason? you play rolls in games even if you say you dont. you might not go to the extremes that some people do but there's nowt wrong with them thowing in the odd "bows deeply" etc. in chat, although these days emotes take over from the chat actions.

    it's good to see the occasional old fashioned roll player around still, kind of reminds people where the games come from and helps the imagination to keep growing

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  • CaldicotCaldicot StockholmPosts: 432Member Uncommon
    One of the reasons I play EVE Online is that the RP comes natural even when people are not actually RP:ing. It's truly something else.

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  • klash2defklash2def Posts: 286Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BeansnBread

    Roleplaying is for D&D, chatrooms and the bedroom.

     

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     Classic. 

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  • klash2defklash2def Posts: 286Member Uncommon
     it was SWG for me great RP there.  wow used to have decent RP on WRA back in the day. .. now its TOR. Yes.. TOR.. best RP ive seen on current gen mmos. come to Ebon Hawk server see for yourself if you want RP at all in the SW setting. 
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  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Chicago, ILPosts: 2,235Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Caldicot
    One of the reasons I play EVE Online is that the RP comes natural even when people are not actually RP:ing. It's truly something else.

    You know, that was the coolest surprise I had in EVE.  Even though it has very little in terms of roleplay tools, I found a whole lot of cool, IC and lore-based bantering on the chat channels.

    But the more I thought about it, the more it made sense.  There is, quite frankly, very little to do while hauling or mining but RP in chat...so we did exactly that.  Not everyone, mind you, but enough people.

    Still, I think the greatest problem--today, at least--is that the tail is now wagging the dog.  There are so few players who actually roleplay, that those tools that roleplayers rely upon have been disappearing.  Things like emotes, chat bubbles, /walk, props, decorative elements, roleplay spaces, social/special purpose costumes and clothing and so on.  It used to be that these things came standard on every MMO.  The last MMO I played that had all these elements was CoH (and the roleplay was great there), but every other MMO I've played since CoH has had some features, but not others.

    If we ought to lobby for anything, we ought to lobby for inclusion of the basics...basics that are becoming endangered.  Because we can entertain ourselves very well, just so long as we have the tools to do what we do.

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  • makeit234makeit234 Clarkson, KYPosts: 5Member
    NO! PvP FTW! Kidding though lol. But I find the most fun in PvP/PvE still.
  • I know this may sound off or prudent or whatever but it's me in a nutshell.

     

    I see roleplaying (where you actively go out and try to "act" out a role) as something that requires a lot of work for no reward. I see people that do it as either over-the-top "overt" types (I'm an invert type) or overly effeminate. 

     

    I was in both WoW and SWTOR and saw people trying to roleplay. 90% of the chat seemed to be common courtises and related jabber or a laundry list of adjectives or verbs.

     

    For me, the only reason I'm online really...is to PVP and kill my opponent. The more wise and/or skillful they are the more meaningful the battle to me.

     

    I understand balance in all things, so with that, I understand PVE content (and the extreme would be RP) has its' place and needed mechanics, but given a preference, I would choose PVP over it any day.

  • MaelwyddMaelwydd CrawleyPosts: 1,123Member
    Originally posted by BlueTiger13

    I know this may sound off or prudent or whatever but it's me in a nutshell.

     

    I see roleplaying (where you actively go out and try to "act" out a role) as something that requires a lot of work for no reward. I see people that do it as either over-the-top "overt" types (I'm an invert type) or overly effeminate. 

     

    I was in both WoW and SWTOR and saw people trying to roleplay. 90% of the chat seemed to be common courtises and related jabber or a laundry list of adjectives or verbs.

     

    For me, the only reason I'm online really...is to PVP and kill my opponent. The more wise and/or skillful they are the more meaningful the battle to me.

     

    I understand balance in all things, so with that, I understand PVE content (and the extreme would be RP) has its' place and needed mechanics, but given a preference, I would choose PVP over it any day.

    I ask, who do you think people RP with if not other people?

    RP is simply a form of non violent PvP (although it can lead to violent PvP and THAT is the best form of PvP there is....PvP for a reason other then the game lets me).

    Me thinks you do not understand what RP is...

  • Originally posted by Maelwydd
    Originally posted by BlueTiger13

    I know this may sound off or prudent or whatever but it's me in a nutshell.

     

    I see roleplaying (where you actively go out and try to "act" out a role) as something that requires a lot of work for no reward. I see people that do it as either over-the-top "overt" types (I'm an invert type) or overly effeminate. 

     

    I was in both WoW and SWTOR and saw people trying to roleplay. 90% of the chat seemed to be common courtises and related jabber or a laundry list of adjectives or verbs.

     

    For me, the only reason I'm online really...is to PVP and kill my opponent. The more wise and/or skillful they are the more meaningful the battle to me.

     

    I understand balance in all things, so with that, I understand PVE content (and the extreme would be RP) has its' place and needed mechanics, but given a preference, I would choose PVP over it any day.

    I ask, who do you think people RP with if not other people?

    RP is simply a form of non violent PvP (although it can lead to violent PvP and THAT is the best form of PvP there is....PvP for a reason other then the game lets me).

    Me thinks you do not understand what RP is...

     

    There is no such thing as non-violent PvP as the point of PvP is death. That's like saying those on foodstamps are non-welfare recepients lol when foodstamps is under the welfare umbrella.

     

    EDIT: PvP is not the same as "social interaction." It's Player versus Player. The keyword is versus, like a contest. Generally meant to the death or "forfeit" guidelines.

  • MaelwyddMaelwydd CrawleyPosts: 1,123Member
    Originally posted by BlueTiger13

     

     

    There is no such thing as non-violent PvP as the point of PvP is death. That's like saying those on foodstamps are non-welfare recepients lol when foodstamps is under the welfare umbrella.

     

    EDIT: PvP is not the same as "social interaction." It's Player versus Player. The keyword is versus, like a contest. Generally meant to the death or "forfeit" guidelines.

    No such thing as non-violent PvP huh?

    Like chess?

    Or a spelling contest?

    Or a treasure hunt?

    Or a racing game?

    Or Tic-Tac-Toe?

    Or shooting arrows at a target?

    Or holding your breath underwater?

     

    Again, I think you don't have a clue what you are talking about!

  • ShadinShadin StockholmPosts: 294Member
    Originally posted by KeepInGates

    I think it's Kids these days, bro. Their minds have been boggled down by the crap Tv shows, movies, and video games that seem to qualify as "Good writing".  Because of this, they don't know how to come up with a good story.

    Haven't read the whole thread, but this is pretty much the reason I stopped roleplaying. Characters have no depth either or realism. I tried roleplaying in SW:TOR, a Darth with an apprentice (my gf) - and only after I earned the title. When a random bounty hunter play like my character is a kitty and threatens him for the hundreth time in the heart of the imperial fleet, where logically 50 troopers would swoop down to surround him I gave up. I'm tired of kids playing like there would be no consequence of anything; just because I don't actually have 50 players able to do that doesn't mean the character knows this.

    It's not roleplaying, it's metagaming - and on a poor level. I wouldn't mind had it been in the middle of the Taris ruins - but in the heart of the Empire? C'mon... Not to mention it's the same type of player that would refuse a duel, and refuse losing a duel, even when it's logical (though, personally, I've had characters getting beat by the Sith etc. so often they're starting to get seriously traumatized).

    Back in AoC, people could actually ROLEplay. From their characters perspective. I haven't had decent RP since then. I doubt i ever will (except table top).

  • ReklawReklaw Am.Posts: 6,478Member Uncommon

    Just read the complaints and you will notice the majority play's the "quest rush to end-game" as that's all they seem to understand when they enter a MMORPG. Again just check the majority of complaints.

    So roleplay or getting immersed within a MMORPG seems very uncommon for the majority I see around here sorry to say. 

  • Ariel_ArilonAriel_Arilon Hiding in a Forest, MTPosts: 47Member

    IF games actually rewarded good role-play perhaps there would be more of it?

    The attitude I've experienced in my last MMO that I played in for over 3 years was that the company neither encouraged, supported, or rewarded good role play. So why bother making the effort?

    Now if you wanted to mindlessly hack to bits guards or townsfolk as quickly as they respawned, you could earn tons of xp.

    Even with its drawbacks I am considering Plane Shift because there role play is enforced.

    Imagine that, a MMORPG that is, in fact, a mmoRPG!

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  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,924Member Uncommon

    I feel like there isn't a shortage of roleplays right now, as much as the numbers are being thinned out far more then in the past having so many more games out there. The community is split out further making it harder to gather large numbers for a single game like it was possible in the past. I'm sure the push to action combat only makes it that much harder to also really work with the roleplay culture as well as it tends to make things a bit trickier to pull off, granted I don't think its effect is anywhere near the issue of having so many MMos to split out between.

     

    Probably the games that will manage to get more of the community of roleplays are those more focused around lore and story with resources to support those roleplayers. Its likely good beacons for finding the Roleplaying community and finding more numbers.

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Somewhere, NCPosts: 1,582Member Uncommon

    Time for me to go all Grandma Dreamscaper for a bit.

     

    I really do think it's a generational issue. While it's more true of the upcoming generation (the children still in elementary school), both it and the generation in front of them are spoiled beyond belief. The influx of instant gratification pay-to-convenience games we currently see are a direct response to this. I have several family members who work in education and the stories they tell are just mind boggling.

     

    I'm pretty sure the lack of roleplaying that becoming more noticeable as time goes on is a direct consequence of this. While roleplaying is very rewarding, it's also rather difficult to do correctly, and for the I-want-it-now generations, "ain't nobody got time for that," as they would say. Why bother putting forth the effort to contribute to a cohesive narrative when you can just do the day's daily quest and get rewarded with a basket of shinies? Why contribute to a living, breathing world when you still have to clear The Dungeon five more times before you can upgrade to next armor tier?

     

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  • DurandleDurandle Orinda, CAPosts: 31Member

    Hi friend. I played alb/guinevere and hib/percival too on daoc...these were my best gaming memories. I made a video tribute to those rp servers and those now long dead days...

     

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  • LalapaseoLalapaseo Chicago, ILPosts: 16Member
    I fart in everyone's vicinities whenever I can in Firefall. That's probably me roleplaying as my childhood bullies.
  • PioneerStewPioneerStew londonPosts: 874Member
    Originally posted by Lalapaseo
    I fart in everyone's vicinities whenever I can in Firefall. That's probably me roleplaying as my childhood bullies.

    well, they messed you up, that behaviour is just crazy! 

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew londonPosts: 874Member
    Originally posted by Scambug
    Loads of RP going on in SWTOR. I don't participate myself (always thought RPing was a little creepy) but I always pick RP servers when possible, folks are more mature and pleasant there, I find.

    The RP in SWTOR is horrible, everyone is the most powerful Sith Lord the universe has ever seen! 

  • gideonvaldesgideonvaldes Kentucky, KYPosts: 148Member
    Some are, majority are not anymore.
  • trisoxtrisox Somewhere. Maybe.Posts: 47Member Uncommon

    Iam still enjoying roleplay. Though im not able to do it in the most classic way - in a fantasy setting - i usually do it in arma3. Either iam playing a police officer on altis life or just that plain old semi-illegal guy from next door.

    Enjoying it most of the times, but often there are people that are just looking forward  to destroying this experience.

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx California, WAPosts: 1,986Member Uncommon
    No role players creep me out. Moment they start referring to themselves in third person in whispers and start emoting....i run in opposite direction as fast i can.
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