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Elder Scrolls Online has ~775,000 subscribers - report
bcbully
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-18-elder-scrolls-online-has-775-000-subscribers-report
"A report published by SuperData Research (via GamesIndustry International) claims The Elder Scrolls Online had 772,374 subscribers in June."
This seems about right, 420k box sales + 3-4 times more digital downloads = 1.2-1.6 mill or so sold, with about a 50% retention rate.
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That's a little higher than I had predicted at 500-700k on retention. If this data is true, this is nothing but good news for ZoS and makes the game a smashing success.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
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If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
So again, someone's best "guess" at the numbers.
It's not explicitly clear where the figure comes from but SuperData's MMO earnings data is compiled from "the monthly spending of 36.9 million digital gamers, worldwide, collected from developers, publisher and payment service providers". Presumably the ESO figure comes from the same place.
Game-publisher Bethesda hasn't released sales or subscription data for The Elder Scrolls Online, and as its parent company ZeniMax Media is privately held, doesn't really have to.
While they are under no obligation to report sales or sub figures, if it was something they were very proud of they would announce it.("a million plus subscribers can't be wrong!!!, or "the MMO played by over a million people!")
My best guess....the current numbers are somewhat below this value, and they are waiting until the steam/console launches before announcing any finanicals.
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Not even WoW -arguably the most successful MMO ever - has that high a retention rate. I don't think that number adds up for ESO (or any MMO for that matter).
Only 30 Percent of WoW Players Get Past Level 10 - Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime
What I estimate for any MMO that's not WoW is < 30%. Twenty percent retention rate seems more plausible for any run-of-the-mill MMO.
Im sorry you dont agree.
Look mister fan, I don't have your links but I am one that left along with 3 of my friends and my girlfriend so there is 5 people for you.
As for as those numbers go, that is higher then I would think and I do believe the comment that they are waiting for the console launch before releasing any numbers.
It would be a big marketing thing if they had hit 1 million but nothing has been said so it tends to make it look like that has not happened.
Why are you sorry? You pulled numbers out of your ass with a complete guess.
You stay sassy!
Not really made up. The game didnt sell well, the game had tons of bugs where the majority left. Tons of refunds were given. Given the average retention rate the 200k figure seems about right on the money.
Numbers? Source? Anything? More butt numbers? What's your metric for saying the game didn't sell well? As far as I knew, no one but ZoS knows actual retail sales at the moment. If you don't like the game that's fine, but making up numbers and spreading misinformation reflects poorly on you, not on ESO.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Where do you get this information from, forum posts? What do you mean it's not made up? There's no reliable information any where to back up any of this, but it's not made up.....
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Wows retention rate was 30%. That's a comment from their CEO.
So lets give eso the same rate ( even though no mmo will have rates as good ). that puts them at 232k
So why is everyone flipping out on the guy who said 200k when any one of you could of done some simple math and come up with the same ball park answer ? Do you need a thrid party site to do basic math for you or something ?
How is 200k subs bad? Eve only has 500k which was a little older of a number and has been dipping. If you have proof to discredit anything I said you are welcomed to post whatever you want.
Thank you. I dont see why everyone is mad by using the numbers we have available.
The OP's original post discredit's everything you said because even if it isn't 100% reliable, it's a lot more reliable than some guy armchair quarterbacking about a game he obviously dislikes.
Eve hasn't had 500k subs for quite a while by the way, in fact there was a post the other day about how low Eve's pop has gotten lately on this forum.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
How do you apply such a number when you don't know where to even start from? WHat makes that 200k "forum post" any more correct than these numbers in the article? He's saying 200k, they're saying 775k in june...
Flipping out? Asking someone to back up a claim is flipping out?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Theres no information in the link that says how they got the number. My number actually used some math.
The link also said Wildstar was a huge contender against ESO right now. So if you believe the 700k figure than you have to assume that WIldstar sold the same as ESO correct?
Aren't you a WS fan?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Some math? what math? You can't apply a retention rate when you don't even know where the original figure begins, math?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I enjoy wildstar and I think its a great game, but I don't go posting threads giving false facts about Wildstar or ESO saying they are doing bad or good to fit my agenda. BCbully had a thread just making a factless claim about 'empty servers' for Wildstar (only due to it being a recent game and a 'threat' to his game) while throwing up tons of posts about ESO being the second coming throwing in numbers and figures with no facts about it.
There is a difference between being a 'fan' and someone who throws false facts and propaganda about a game to promote a game while slander to demean another game with no truth behind it. Thats going WAY beyond what a fan would do, heck I'd even claim a fanboy wouldn't do what he is doing, to the point I almost feel like he is being paid for spreading such words.
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I should not have subbed.
even when it goes free I am not going to bother loading again and I never even got a character further than level 30 and I made a lot.
all the missions felt the same,just a pretty quest grind not a real elders scrolls game.
Actually yes, If you read my post history I speculated (note speculated, I didn't try to pass off my guess as actual math.) That WildStar has sold at least between 500-700k copies and put retention between 200-400k. That's a guess, and I'm not going to argue or stand by those numbers at all, because it was just that, a guess, much like what you are doing with ESO and trying to pass off as true.
You don't preface a post saying "I'm guessing" and then try to maintain it's a fact.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
If you actually read the full article it says: "Our research shows that trial players who play World of Warcraft past level ten are much more likely to stick with the game for a long time" "Currently, only about 30 percent of our trial players make it past this threshold.
Subscription retention is very different for WoW.