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Originally posted by Quesa Originally posted by TheQuietGamer Originally posted by Quesa I would be ok with this as long as: It comes with a general forum upgrade or replacement to something modern and more functional. The current forum software is absolute shit. Being liked or disliked doesn't do anything to your post. Some systems hide disliked posts if it reaches a threshold of 'votes'. That promotes some bad behavior.
It would not be ok. Everyone splits into camps (as is natural) depending upon the game they like. It would fuel a flame war between those that like and dislike a game regardless of how credible the post is.
This forum can become toxic enough as it is without the ability to ostracise people for unpopular but perfectly sound opinions.
In fact it would just create a few pariahs and many popularity-chasing sheep. aargh.
This happens everywhere. I don't mind when people grab their pitchforks against someone and downvote them, it's happened to me before and you just move past it. I find it much better to have a like/dislike system in place to take care of the majority of those who run a downvote campaign on you rather than the thread filled up with 15 more useless posts doing the same.
You might, I am note sure it would be the general consensus. I think that some people would feel loathed to express a true opinion on a game for fear of the downvote crew.
Look, in any other sphere of debate you are not allowed to heckle someone into submission. You are expected to win by virtue of your abilities to debate and the strength of your argument. For me the internet is Wild West enough without introducing people to the sometimes miss-informed diatribe of opinion in face of reasonable opinion.
As an example, it was released the other day that GW2 have sold 3.8m of their product in China. In the overwhelming onslaught of fanbois would anyone have pointed out that these figures were based on a complete misconception of the truth? Maybe, or maybe not, but the dial would swing further to the 'not'.
Originally posted by MikeB As we've mentioned when this has been brought up previously, we're OK with the idea of having a "Like" button, but we are not going to ever do a "Dislike" or downvote type of feature.
Can you please provide a link to previous discussion on the subject?
If the goal is purely constructive discussion on a given subject matter, I find it hard to turn anywhere except reddit these days. The reason, I feel, is that reddit's structure naturally weeds out unproductive emotional rants (ie. the ones that are not grounded in reason and/or are poorly articulated.) Whereas forums like these tend to be absolutely dominated by such posts, to the point where it becomes almost impossible to have a civilized discussion. It not only often feels frustrating to post anything here, it often feels pointless - as in, anything a reasonable person says here will promptly be swallowed up by so many troll posts (from both sides, in favor of or against a particular game) that it will not only fail to resonate with other readers, it will simply never be seen by other readers.
Whenever I post anything of substance here, it feels like I might as well just write it in my personal diary, because nobody's every going to see it through the tangled weeds that are the infinite bits of bickering that are sure to follow anyway.
If I were to write something pointless but provocative, on the other hand, like "Wildstar's facebook 'likes' reach 1.2M surpassing ESO" I'd get a bajillion pointless responses defending one game or the other.
All of that nonsensical banter can be virtually eliminated and self-policed by a well-implemented rating system.
A like button adds no substance to a thread. It only encourages groupthink and mob support while at the same time not encouraging people to add their own substantive replies. Why type out a thoughtful reply when you can just click a button and leave all your reasons out of it.
People's choice I guess. Everyone wants things simplified to the point of just agreeing or disagreeing without explanation or discussion to find common ground.
Originally posted by Grunty The staff here has repeatedly stated there will never be negative ratings for what members post.
Not completely true.
Ive had a few posts deleted and a few temp-bans from moderators, cant get much more of negative rating to a post than that.
Course I was being a dick if I remember correctly.
*Just cause its hard to read sarcasm in a post, yes Im being sarcastic*
"I understand that if I hear any more words come pouring out of your **** mouth, Ill have to eat every fucking chicken in this room."
Lets make it facebook.
No thanks very bad idea.
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Dislike for the simple reason there are just to many haters and trolls lurking on forums these days with nothing better to do then flame and troll 24/7 / 7 days a week / 4 weeks a month / 12 months a year.
Make a positive post about something something ? 40 downvotes / dislikes in a matter of seconds.
Unless they are going to perma ban these kind of hopeless no lifers whos top priority is to bash and flame i can only say no please do not add this on these forums yet unless moderators are using a perma ban hammer and remove the option to make new accounts that can post directly without any posting rights approval system.
You received 25 Agrees. You're posting some good content. Great!
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Now Doesn't That Make You Feel All Warm And Fuzzy? :P
Maybe a +1 button to avoid people saying just +1. Although it would still likely happen