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Good patch yesterday

IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,622Member Uncommon

I'm sure that people inclined to find fault can highlight any negatives (I had a brief crash/rollback and my low-level sorc pets dissapeared every now and then... I'm sure other new glitches were introduced as with any big patch) but the performance and responsiveness of abilities and weapons felt much improved. Instant really means instant now instead of "sort of instant."

 

The new lighting also has some subtle but noticeable improvements: everything looks brighter and the colors are more saturated. There was even one indoor fight I had in a room that had a mirror and the reflections of the effects on the mirror were really good,

 

It's a BIG dl... about 9 Gigs total. I was off work yesterday so I spent several hours playing on my level 15ish DC sorc alt. Other than the two things I mentioned above, the game play was rock solid.

 

Also...it could just be the more responsive abilities allowing for a quicker sequence of attacks but it also seemed to me that I was downing trash much faster than before. I'd be interested to know if others that have played at higher levels--especially VR--also notice this.

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  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,565Member Uncommon

    9gb patch is amazing. Glad they are taking care of business.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Parma, OHPosts: 2,404Member

    Something weird about the Bow ability 'Snipe' and the Bow passive 'Long Shots'.  Snipe only extends to 35m, but Long Shots apparently only triggers max damage at 40m.  This is according to patch notes and not in-game testing.

     

    Kinda lame if you can never reach max damage because none of your attacks extend out to 40m.

     

    As a positive, Snipe is now a 2 second cast, which enables the use of Shadow Cloaks critical % on next attack morph.  Essentially now allowing snipers to not only get a 100% critical on Snipe, but also hit for the extra critical damage from sneak attack, as well as all of the other invisible/sneak damage passives that apply.  I think snipers may become a real thing in ESO.  Which I absolutely love.

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,622Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DAS1337

    Something weird about the Bow ability 'Snipe' and the Bow passive 'Long Shots'.  Snipe only extends to 35m, but Long Shots apparently only triggers max damage at 40m.  This is according to patch notes and not in-game testing.

     

    Kinda lame if you can never reach max damage because none of your attacks extend out to 40m.

     

    As a positive, Snipe is now a 2 second cast, which enables the use of Shadow Cloaks critical % on next attack morph.  Essentially now allowing snipers to not only get a 100% critical on Snipe, but also hit for the extra critical damage from sneak attack, as well as all of the other invisible/sneak damage passives that apply.  I think snipers may become a real thing in ESO.  Which I absolutely love.

    Yeah, I noticed that too but I haven't  played with my archer NB yet after the patch... either a typo or something is missing. I know that there are some abilties that extend the range but even so, long shot bonus at 40 only makes no sense.

  • Acidon.NumenAcidon.Numen Salem, ORPosts: 55Member

    Just to clarify (sorry), the patch is a ~5g compressed download and ~27g uncompressed patch (which goes quickly, at least on SSD).

    That said, color me incredibly impressed.

    They've been amazing about small downloads / patches throughout, so this holds some serious code altering goodness.  It's great to see and makes me optimistic about the future.

     

    Thanks for the heads-up.  I didn't even know they were dropping a patch, let alone something this substantial.

    Please Note: I'm done arguing with unreasonable people with an agenda and/or those that fail to see logic.

    Argue if you must, discount my post with anti-logic and/or Hyperbole. I won't be responding any longer.

  • RegnorRegnor Redmond, WAPosts: 29Member Uncommon
    From what I've read, the text explaining the Long Shot change is misleading and doesn't mean what you think it means (fortunately). What they really meant to say is "Long Shot now properly triggers at 40 meters, which it previously did not do". The damage done with Snipe and Long Shot scales to Snipe's max distance, so the two go well together.

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  • cerulean2012cerulean2012 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 367Member Uncommon

    Still not impressed.  They still have done nothing that is the root of they problems.  Still no way to group effectively with others when you or they have already completed some of the content (makes it very difficult to help newer people out).  Still no fix for the grind (vet levels). 

    Still no change in the fact that yes they say you can go to the other areas but you go there for vet levels only, this really sucks.

    Still no auction house!  The guild ones suck...period!

    I won't comment on pvp...I will say that the zerging is NOT their fault.  It happens in almost every pvp game that has large scale pvp.  Almost no way around it as people find safety in numbers and they find it fun to be on the side that has 100 running over the small < 20 people groups.

    Anyway things that should be in MMOs (better grouping, auction house, etc) still are issues in ESO and even though this patch fixed some things it did nothing to fix these problem areas.

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,622Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Acidon.Numen

    Just to clarify (sorry), the patch is a ~5g compressed download and ~27g uncompressed patch (which goes quickly, at least on SSD).

    That said, color me incredibly impressed.

    They've been amazing about small downloads / patches throughout, so this holds some serious code altering goodness.  It's great to see and makes me optimistic about the future.

     

    Thanks for the heads-up.  I didn't even know they were dropping a patch, let alone something this substantial.

    When I did it there was first ~ 4.5 GB DL then that gets applied and then a second 4.5 GB DL and then that gets applied.

     

    I only know that because when it was applying the first DL I thought it woul just be a couple of minutes before it was ready so I left it in the foreground and then I noticed the 2nd DL.

  • ScotScot UKPosts: 5,769Member Uncommon

    I am waiting for the first of our unbiased posters on here to suggest it was a 1 gig patch with 26 gig of padding. :)

    Looking so good, I am diving back in now.

  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,622Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by cerulean2012

    Still not impressed.  They still have done nothing that is the root of they problems.  Still no way to group effectively with others when you or they have already completed some of the content (makes it very difficult to help newer people out).  Still no fix for the grind (vet levels). 

    Still no change in the fact that yes they say you can go to the other areas but you go there for vet levels only, this really sucks.

    Still no auction house!  The guild ones suck...period!

    I won't comment on pvp...I will say that the zerging is NOT their fault.  It happens in almost every pvp game that has large scale pvp.  Almost no way around it as people find safety in numbers and they find it fun to be on the side that has 100 running over the small < 20 people groups.

    Anyway things that should be in MMOs (better grouping, auction house, etc) still are issues in ESO and even though this patch fixed some things it did nothing to fix these problem areas.

     If i was going to make a "yeah but still no...." list it would look nothing like yours. Mine would have the Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guild and Darkness Falls like PVP dungeon in the Imperial city. For some people's preference the game won't be "feature complete" for quite a few months yet and for others it will never be.

     

    This wasn't a content patch but a performance one with a few abilities tweaks added. They pretty much nailed what they wanted to do. If the game had released in this shape the review scores would probably all be 1 full point above what they were. They released with a lot of systems and basic functionality glitches that gave people a justifiably less positive first impression. Now it's 3 months later and it's really ready for release image

  • fascismfascism marquette, MIPosts: 358Member Uncommon
    is this the big f2p patch?
  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,622Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by fascism
    is this the big f2p patch?

    No. If F2P comes this year instead of somewhere down the road, it will come at the same time it gets released for the consoles IF they decide to release the console versions B2P... which makes some sense considering what's normal in the console world.

  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 VrakaPosts: 410Member
    Originally posted by Acidon.Numen

    Just to clarify (sorry), the patch is a ~5g compressed download and ~27g uncompressed patch (which goes quickly, at least on SSD).

    That said, color me incredibly impressed.

    They've been amazing about small downloads / patches throughout, so this holds some serious code altering goodness.  It's great to see and makes me optimistic about the future.

     

    Thanks for the heads-up.  I didn't even know they were dropping a patch, let alone something this substantial.

    I don't think the game has more than few hundred megabytes of code in total. The rest is graphics. Dafuq are you talking about?!?

  • geremadygeremady BredaPosts: 45Member Uncommon


    Just fyi: the complete game unpacked at launch was 30 gb.

    How in the world could you have a 27 gb patch?

    lol

  • IlayaIlaya BochumPosts: 412Member Uncommon
    I would so love to come back and re-sub, but as long as the EU Server stay in US, they wont get another € from me imageimage
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,787Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone
    Originally posted by geremady


    Just fyi: the complete game unpacked at launch was 30 gb.

    How in the world could you have a 27 gb patch?

    lol

     

    [mod edit]

    yeah.

    I would say that those 27gb arent completely added to the 30gb size of the original game. A lot of stuff there is fixes and replace existing stuff so its not like after that patch the game will weight 57gb or something.

     

    Im glad they are fixing the game. I want to play again but they had not given me any good reason to do so. Ill wait a little longer to see more important changes and fixes than visuals.

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  • movindudemovindude santa barbara, CAPosts: 122Member

    They need to get that server in EU just to keep the game rolling in money to help fix our problems like AUCTION HOUSE !!!  That alone would change the game sooo much as to make the game economy pop big time. Adds so much more fun and value to items made and found and to what we can do with them. I decon blue items I could easily sale in a real AH within a couple hours.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,284Member Uncommon
    Great patch besides a few new glitches image Like the Cyrodiil fps bug some are getting.
  • Gamer_17Gamer_17 Shakspere, ONPosts: 202Member

    I thought they were never doing an AH because it would not work with the mega server?

    In my opinion the economy within eso is working great. Most games I've played lately the AH has been crap. I'd like to see some other system implemented rather than a traditional AH. Possibly joining 'guilds' for each profession you can join, but these guilds have 10 000 to 20 000 members (or whatever works best but more than 500) and once they're filled up the mega server creates another guild. All with monthly payments so any non active characters would get booted and new ones could be filled in.

     

    I would rather have the current system then the traditional AH, if they believe it will destroy the currently thriving online market.

     

    p.s. I also heard they added some new search options to the current system, an actual search bar would be best and I would love to see become implemented.

  • ohioastroohioastro Columbus, OHPosts: 439Member Uncommon
    My nightblade now has a seemingly bottomless stamina pool, which is very handy.  Bow attacks (and other weapon ones) definitely got some love.  I'm hearing good things from templar players too.  And the guild store search upgrades are very nice - should have been in from the start, but I'm still glad to see them now.
  • superconductingsuperconducting Rochester, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon

    The biggest problem is still there. And that's the open world design. They have it all wrong.

    Whereas Skyrim and other Elder Scrolls games make you feel like you can travel in any direction and spontaneously discover things, this game goes out of its way to make you quest grind and stay on rails. You want proof? Look at each city- see how each one contains players of a certain level range? Cities in MMOs should contain players of all levels! And areas should be explorable by everyone, not just those who have progressed enough to survive the mob in your face. It's Bad design, plain and simple. Can't see myself coming back any time soon.

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  • NeoTiger13NeoTiger13 La Crosse, WIPosts: 30Member

    I tried it for 3 weeks. Although my sorc and dragon knight had like 30 abilities before I hit veteran on both, I had only a few skills I would even consider using, and at that, 3 of them were from the near beginning and it took to near end game to get that last skill.

     

    I fealt no sense of accomplishment on any "level up" *except* for hitting max. Then I was like "finally!!!" :)

     

    I tried the game and there's interesting information in the patch notes, but still not enough for me to try and go back.

  • mangarmangar Tallahassee, FLPosts: 282Member
    Originally posted by superconducting

    The biggest problem is still there. And that's the open world design. They have it all wrong.

    Whereas Skyrim and other Elder Scrolls games make you feel like you can travel in any direction and spontaneously discover things, this game goes out of its way to make you quest grind and stay on rails. You want proof? Look at each city- see how each one contains players of a certain level range? Cities in MMOs should contain players of all levels! And areas should be explorable by everyone, not just those who have progressed enough to survive the mob in your face. It's Bad design, plain and simple. Can't see myself coming back any time soon.

    Well if you look at it from a 100% adventurer perspective you are correct but I must say that my lv 7 crafting alts can be found in any major city... that does not require PvE questing to "clean" prior to making it usable... blasted specialty crafting stations and getting one shotted by rats!!!   

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  • CurragraigueCurragraigue PerthPosts: 84Member Uncommon

    A good improvement on graphics, information about materials, UI in guild stores, abilities responsiveness and having a store in the bank is taking some of the pain out of the inventory issues.  I'm not liking the trash items in the containers but I never used auto loot so more of an inconvenience more than anything else.

    Still need grouping fixed and would like some more free space for my bank for all of my shared crafting.

    Overall a good patch and still lots of things to look forward to.

  • AmegashieAmegashie naPosts: 282Member Uncommon
    The patch incidentally has pretty much the exact same size update 1 had, close to 9 GB. That leads me to believe that they're replacing large parts of the client outright rather than just inserting the new stuff. Curious decision if that is indeed the case, I'm not aware of any other MMO company doing it this way. Tough luck for people on slow connections or capped traffic, not very relevant otherwise I guess.
  • loulakiloulaki PatrasPosts: 918Member Uncommon
    a positive thread for ESO after 3 months, thats great for its players : )

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