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[Editorial] WildStar: Review In Progress - Part One

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  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff Writer St. Charles, MOPosts: 460MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Originally posted by bestever
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Delusive

    I played Wildstar on a beta weekend. I couldn't handle the action combat system. All the movement required on WASD made it hard for me to 123. Maybe a keybind change or controller would make it a better experience for me. Can anybody who enjoys the game and found a way around this minor annoyance share their experience with me.

     

    Personally, I use a Naga, and can't play MMOs without one now.  

    Hey bill if your naga takes a crap like 3 of mine (double click issue) I would pick of the G600. Its a much better built mouse. I haven't had a single issue. 

     
     

    I stopped using my Naga and switched to a G600 too.

     
  • rodingorodingo Posts: 2,346Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grakulen
    Originally posted by rodingo
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Remember mmo fans...if they don't trash a game you don't like it's because they've been bought

    Yeh, maybe Carbine will give them the same paycheck that Zenimax gives for making the weekly, "This Week in Elder Scrolls Online" bit.  Think we will see a, "This Week in Wildstar"?  I guess it depends on how deep Carbine's wallet is.

    /end sarcasm

    If we get a paycheck for TWIESO someone owes me some damn money.

    Haha, I know right?  Yeh my post was in reference to another poster who thinks you guys do paid news coverage.

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • Ragnar1337Ragnar1337 Atlantis, ALPosts: 70Member
    I played the Wildstar beta and it felt like a very complete and polished game. That is great since most other MMO's lately have been half ass pieces of trash (ESO) Unfortunately Wildstar offers nothing new, different or interesting. The leveling is horribly boring and the hand holding is just off the chart. Why even have the 1-50 leveling if you are practically going to do it for people? If this came out 10 years ago maybe, but now this is just tired and boring boiler plate theme park rehash. 
  • MaelzraelMaelzrael Las Cruces, NMPosts: 354Member Uncommon
    Ragnar your opinion on leveling and why you aren't playing tells me you haven't quested above lvl 15-22ish. In Auroria the difficulty of solo questing is formidable and in whitevale, esp on a pvp server, it almost feels like you should just bring some friends. I think you should give it another shot if you're open minded enough to get in the difficult parts, most notably, the dungeons. 

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  • KexinKexin San Diego, CAPosts: 68Member

    I'm level 8 so far and it's a major pain to log back in. The questing is so souless that I actually miss the phasing and quality voice work in ESO. I didn't think it could be done, a game that reminded of what ESO got right.

    My other issue with the game is the combat. I don't feel like I'm actually fighting the mobs, instead of my weapons physically connecting or appear to connect, I spend all my time painting them with triangles and squares. 

  • daltaniousdaltanious waPosts: 2,143Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Siphaed
    Originally posted by Deathsmind

    Just think how good of a score this game will get. You had a broken game get 7. If a game is at least playable im guessing minimum the score has to be 12 out of 10...

    Be realistic, it'll get a 9 or 9.5 out of 10, with questing being the reason for the point removal.  If the questing of the game was a mirror of Guild Wars 2's Dynamic Events and Hearts system, this game would/should have earned a 10 out of 10.   

    You mean that Dynamic Events and Hearts system that forced me to stop playing Gw2? :-)) But would gladly play again Gw2 if they return classic, proven and working and fun, questing system. Not just blindly running around  looking for same boring event over and over again or just jumping from heart to heart.

    About WS ... I was positively surprised by clean beta game play and incredible performance even with a lot of players around.

    Then on of last patches still in beta caused on same settings my fps drop to approx. 1/3. Ok, shit happen, at release hopefully this will not be problem, they will fix. Or some new driver will come out. So I thought.

    Than so called “headstart” happened preventing I guess majority (at least in EU as I heard) to login at all and play, queues from 2 to 24 hours, then finally when queue was ready ... blank screen, rinse and repeat, ... disaster. I admit have not been so angry with any game.. Not because tech and sw problems happen ... but because of stupidity. Or as somebody painted very well: company is opening new restaurant, already KNOW 200 guests have confirmed invite and even paid for dinner ... yet they prepare everything like 10 guests only are coming. And then inevitable happen.

    But I never considered option to request money back. Beta experience was great, game fun, ... so I was sure they will repair to this epic fail start.

    Now I can happily login without problems, mainly instantly or up to 10 mins from time to time queue. Here is my updated pro and cons list so far.

     

    PRO

    • no forced use for outdated WASD for moving, using mouse

    • fun, humor

    • very fluid movement, controls responding as expected, very well

    • client loading very fast

    • no single bug or crash in 3 last beta days (but one of worst headstarts I ever played ... actually .. there was no headstart I guess for majority of at least EU players)

    • only game (known to me) so far where i.e. river is driving you in direction of water flow ... amazing! Must constantly battle water flow. :-)

    • love double jump and missing already in other MMO’s :-)

    • underwater quests

     

    CONS

    • only 1 (ONE!) toolbar with 8 active keys; if I will stop to play I’m already sure this will be for this problem because problem it is; usually this spells button mashing, especially as abilities starts to pile up; always hated when game enforces me to “select” only some spells out of zillion; leave that to PLAYER!, if somebody likes can play game with single spell and any game but if i wish to have 2 or 3 toolbars full of abilities that is MY problem

      even on that single toolbar keys are unlocked with leveling so up to i.e. only at lv. 9 you will have 6 unlocked, at lv. 1 only single; I always in any game have “spam” spell on button 5 and hate being forced move that to key 1 or 2; want to have healing spells on other toolbar and usually main 2 linked to F4 and F5, ... etc .... whole toolbar(s) should be unlocked since level 1 even if single spell available at start; fortunately is possible at least to move spells to any already unlocked button, lessening somewhat this problem; at level 9 there are 1-6 keys unlocked

      some even say “wait until lv. 20 and will understand 8 buttons is fine” .... sorry, do not want to wait nearly to half game for that to happen if will happen; surely will come to lv. 20 with at least some of my alts

    • logout should be immediate if in safe area or at least some button logout now; however this is big problem only for altholics as I’m :-)

    • some patch at the end of beta caused fps to drastically fall down with same computer and same settings; stayed so at release, too; and I’m not alone in this

    • music could be better, but it is not so bad at the end

     

    JUST NOTE

    • graphics and style somehow reminds me CO (just noted, is not for bad or for good)

  • greatskysgreatskys marlboroughPosts: 449Member
    My experience of the beta was a frustrating one . Although my PC plays games like TESO ,Rift,GW2 and TOR on Ultra setting with decent fps it struggled with Wildstar even on the lowest settings . It wasn't totally unplayable but it also wasn't very smooth . I believe the game has been optimized more since then from what I've read but given my experience I would have to see its release client either by a free trial or a buddy key . ( sadly no one I know is playing at the moment so it might be quite a wait ) . 
  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Siphaed
    Originally posted by Deathsmind

    Just think how good of a score this game will get. You had a broken game get 7. If a game is at least playable im guessing minimum the score has to be 12 out of 10...

    Be realistic, it'll get a 9 or 9.5 out of 10, with questing being the reason for the point removal.  If the questing of the game was a mirror of Guild Wars 2's Dynamic Events and Hearts system, this game would/should have earned a 10 out of 10.   

    GW2 Dynamic Events are nothing dynamic. Just endless Public events.

    Wildstar has these kind of Public events too in every zone.

  • StarIStarI waka wakaPosts: 924Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grakulen
    Originally posted by rodingo
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Remember mmo fans...if they don't trash a game you don't like it's because they've been bought

    Yeh, maybe Carbine will give them the same paycheck that Zenimax gives for making the weekly, "This Week in Elder Scrolls Online" bit.  Think we will see a, "This Week in Wildstar"?  I guess it depends on how deep Carbine's wallet is.

    /end sarcasm

    If we get a paycheck for TWIESO someone owes me some damn money.

    You should talk to Craig about that.  :>

  • kitaradkitarad RomePosts: 1,742Member Uncommon
    I am not going to make a list or a pitch. You know fun when you are having it. I am having fun in Wildstar.

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  • BeastnBeastn Orlando, FLPosts: 110Member
    My score for this game is a 11/10...I.e. I find scores irrelevant. Ask I know is I thought I was going to hate this game, heck I wanted to hate this game so I didn't have to quit eso already...but I bought it, and played it...and God damnit..it won me over...so if you can attach a number score to that..go ahead
  • daltaniousdaltanious waPosts: 2,143Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GregorMcgregor

    Holy FB heaven! No really, hype yourselves down.

    This MMO is a happy 6.5 at best, WoW's looks, GW's action and SWTOR's awfulness. Only good part so far was the humor, but it's getting stale fast.

    Betting that it will soon quieten down after the free 30 days. Each to their own etc.

    :(

    About look ... games is advertised with strong CARTOONY look. Do not like, do not play. Personally couldn't care less. Gameplay that matters. And to think started with Wow only with BC because did not like look. How wrong was I ... with Wow meet best game ever. Swtor second best with incredible fighting. While Gw2 has one of best action combats around. I guess WS have something from all this worlds .. but that is only good. Actually ... this “good” is related to SUBJECTIVE taste. I knew what I’m buying with WS so I’m so far very very happy with (with exception of terrible headstart).

  • MysteryBMysteryB Midland, TXPosts: 288Member Uncommon
    I want this game sooo bad but my PC is down for a couple of weeks

    Mystery Bounty

  • immodiumimmodium ManchesterPosts: 1,575Member Uncommon
    It's ok. Having fun. Nothing special or amazing though.

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,356MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    Off topic: All the people swearing on the Logitech G600? I just bought one to see for myself.  Thanks for raiding my wallet!
  • HolyfleadipHolyfleadip Indianapolis, INPosts: 67Member
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Off topic: All the people swearing on the Logitech G600? I just bought one to see for myself.  Thanks for raiding my wallet!

    I don't think he liked it.  I'm glad I didn't buy.

  • HolyfleadipHolyfleadip Indianapolis, INPosts: 67Member

    I don't really like the game graphics.  I think they are worse than WOW's.  Style be damned.  Garfield (cat) had better graphics.  They do look childish and not in a good way. 

    I do like how refined it seems to be for a fresh release.  Very well done.

    I like some of the features:  Some of the best housing, WAR PLOTS concept, and environmental interactions.

    Questing isn't an easy design.  But this is boring even with the environmental interactions.  IMHO.  However,  I won't completely  bash it since I believe since I can't state a game with a themepark build who has questing that hasn't become dull, stale, or missing that appeal that keeps you wanting more.  That is why sandbox is making a strong comeback.  I'm dying for EQN.

    So I give the game 7.  Some plus, some negative items. 

    Now... Give me a EQN, AA, with some WS mixed in and make an affordable NEW interface with a VR helm, glove... body suit, where you move your azz around and no longer have the 300 lb nerd show up on SouthPark playing WOW..... That's my future game. LOL.  see you gamers in the year 2025.  hf in WS.  Really hf with WS.  I don't deny those who like it.

     

  • davc123davc123 sloPosts: 371Member
    i love wildstar great game
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Home, GAPosts: 2,083Member
    Been playing it quite a bit. It's a solid MMO that deserves around a 5 or 6 out of 10 imo. If they can fix the combat issues and the performance problems that could easily be a 7 or 8 out of 10. It's a lot of fun so come on in and give a shot people!

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
    If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by Holyfleadip
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Off topic: All the people swearing on the Logitech G600? I just bought one to see for myself.  Thanks for raiding my wallet!

    I don't think he liked it.  I'm glad I didn't buy.

    If he didn't like it he can always take it back. I find it to be a far better mouse.

  • steusssteuss Libertyville, ILPosts: 129Member Uncommon

    The video looks SOOOO boring. What did you do other than spam a few keys.

     

    Wildstar did a really good job of continuing the same thing.

     

    I'm sick of spamming attacks the in general do nothing special against a mob that ignores it until it arbitrarily dies because some number reached 0.

     

    snooze.

  • DeathsmindDeathsmind Newbury Park, CAPosts: 180Member
    Originally posted by steuss

    The video looks SOOOO boring. What did you do other than spam a few keys.

     

    Wildstar did a really good job of continuing the same thing.

     

    I'm sick of spamming attacks the in general do nothing special against a mob that ignores it until it arbitrarily dies because some number reached 0.

     

    snooze.

    What game are you playing where this doesnt happen?

  • DeathsmindDeathsmind Newbury Park, CAPosts: 180Member
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Off topic: All the people swearing on the Logitech G600? I just bought one to see for myself.  Thanks for raiding my wallet!

    Ya people who havent used the Naga for a few days dont know what they are missing. They also have the newer editions for the people who complain the naga has too many buttons.

    Anyone who has played with the naga for more than a day knows how amazing it is. It does take time, there is a learning curve to the naga. But once you master it you will never go back. 

    For me I used only the first 6 buttons for the first few weeks, after awhile a started using the third row, now im using all 4 rows and destroying anything I come in contract with.

    With the right gear anyone can play like the pros, the pros play like the gods.

  • ShodanasShodanas PatrasPosts: 896Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BurntCabbage

    i cant understand why people get up set when we say its just like wow and possibly even easyer and dull ..but these same ppl love this game for the same reasons "like wow"

    so all you people really wanted is another wow? this is what everyone has been waiting for? another recycled wow type theampark carbon copy of wow?

    i see soo many people that play wow and say "i want xyz and im tyred of the same old" but this is the same thing and it now seems to be better than sliced bread lol maybe its me and im getting to old for the genra i see nothing new nor fun about this title and ill stop there..dont wanna get banned

    So, what you essentially say is that all the dozens of people here who enjoy the game are just wrong.

    Self entitlement galore..

  • cheyanecheyane Rome Posts: 3,002Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Off topic: All the people swearing on the Logitech G600? I just bought one to see for myself.  Thanks for raiding my wallet!

    Me too I also got one on offer at Amazon UK for like 68 euros. I am using the G700 now am going to give this a shot hope the mouse is not too wide. I don't have very large hands in fact they are quite small. I can rest my ring finger on that side button right otherwise it will be too difficult to use.

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