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  • kairel182kairel182 SMD, RIPosts: 241Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    Wildstar is an exceptional artistic game. Combat feels smooth, dungeons & raids are fun. 

     

    Stop saying "we" u dont speak for the masses. I have yet to see anyone in the industry share your opinion. You & 2 of your buddies don't speak for the MMO community  :)

     

    Edit: My bad, I thought you were being serious. The comparison to WoW is a red flag for a troll post.

    I disagree.  The game ran terribly and the combat was gimmicky and very clunky.  I refuse to "play until the game is good" to get to the point of doing dungeons and raids.  Games these days aren't engaging and fun from the beginning, no diversity or depth.  I hate hand-holding tutorials beyond basic controls or ideas; I want to learn not be told every aspect upon logging in.

     

    I fully expect Wildstar to be huge, but I won't be apart of the wave.  Its WoW style graphics are a major turn off on top of all the other things I mentioned.  The excellent trailer full of TF2 style humor is not enough to make me accept how poorly the game feels done.  I don't want another GW2 (which had the worst combat ever made) with only a few buttons worth of skills.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by strawhat0981

    Wow so someone wants something new and now they are put in the "you are old, so it does not matter what you say". I guess kids will be kidsimage

    I don't think that age has any thing to do with maturity.

    I mean we have good examples of that in this thread.

  • sumdumguy1sumdumguy1 avondale, AZPosts: 962Member Uncommon
    I wanted to like this game, got my character level up and gave it a chance, but its nothing special and got boring very fast.   The game never got me excited story wise and I never had the encapsulated feeling I get when I get into a game and like it.  This is juts another game, not good, not bad but really just average.
  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by kairel182

    I disagree.  The game ran terribly and the combat was gimmicky and very clunky. 

    This is when everyone stopped reading, you see, they optimized the game, and you clearly didn't give it a go, or have bothered to be in the know enough to realize why the game is still being optimized, and yet it already HAS been quite a bit, even from open beta.

     

    So sir, here is where everyone stopped reading.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sumdumguy1
    I wanted to like this game, got my character level up and gave it a chance, but its nothing special and got boring very fast.   The game never got me excited story wise and I never had the encapsulated feeling I get when I get into a game and like it.  This is juts another game, not good, not bad but really just average.

    I remember some reviews of WoW when it came out that sounded much like this.

    No really, a lot of people were playing EQ, and DAoC and they heard about this game called 'World of Warcraft' when they picked up a PC gamer mag, and they were like, man this looks pretty average, not good not bad, just average.

    And look where it got them.

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by sumdumguy1
    I wanted to like this game, got my character level up and gave it a chance, but its nothing special and got boring very fast.   The game never got me excited story wise and I never had the encapsulated feeling I get when I get into a game and like it.  This is juts another game, not good, not bad but really just average.

    I remember some reviews of WoW when it came out that sounded much like this.

    No really, a lot of people were playing EQ, and DAoC and they heard about this game called 'World of Warcraft' when they picked up a PC gamer mag, and they were like, man this looks pretty average, not good not bad, just average.

    And look where it got them.

    OK laughing-man we get it you love wildstar. Do you really have to defend it teeth and nails?

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • NetspookNetspook OsloPosts: 1,503Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    Wildstar is an exceptional artistic game. Combat feels smooth, dungeons & raids are fun. 

     

    Stop saying "we" u dont speak for the masses. I have yet to see anyone in the industry share your opinion. You & 2 of your buddies don't speak for the MMO community  :)

     

    Edit: My bad, I thought you were being serious. The comparison to WoW is a red flag for a troll post.

     No, OP doesn't speak for the masses.

    Neither do you, so stop pretending your opinions are facts.

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Netspook

     

     

     so stop pretending your opinions are facts.

    I thought all mmo people had all the facts. They sure act like they do.

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • sayuusayuu glendale, AZPosts: 199Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Netspook
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    Wildstar is an exceptional artistic game. Combat feels smooth, dungeons & raids are fun. 

     

    Stop saying "we" u dont speak for the masses. I have yet to see anyone in the industry share your opinion. You & 2 of your buddies don't speak for the MMO community  :)

     

    Edit: My bad, I thought you were being serious. The comparison to WoW is a red flag for a troll post.

     No, OP doesn't speak for the masses.

    Neither do you, so stop pretending your opinions are facts.

     

     

    That's just your opinion though. . . .

  • VicDynamoVicDynamo Michigan, MIPosts: 234Member
    Originally posted by Bootez

    We've seen this so often. Even I almost bought into the hype. And, at this point, who knows, I may fall into the insanity that is buying this game.

     

    It is insanity for a reason: We keep buying these half-finished MMOs, hoping for that old feeling of adventure. I don't see how this game could possibly be any different. The MMO industry is repeating itself. But this game isn't smooth. It isn't a piece of art.

     

    Art here is important. It is obvious this game isn't a piece of art. If you think I'm wrong, go look how all of the grass on the ground flows at the EXACT same time. It shouldn't. It should flow in waves. This game lacks the fine details that make a game a piece of art. I have yet to find an environment in this game that shows an artist's touch. They are talented, yes, but they aren't putting their souls into this game and it becomes painfully obvious when you take a close look at the textures and animations.

     

    Just like all of the recently mmo releases (Apart from maybe Guild Wars 2?), this game fails in the art department. And unfortunately, that is what makes an MMO a living, breathing thing. It needs the fine details in combat as well as art to make it work, which is why WoW has dominated the scene for so long (Apart from Panda-land, which, regardless of how silly some of the expansion is, the environment is still a work of art). 

     

    Deep down, I feel like we all know this. Even my most-excited gamer friends have realized the failure train that this game is on. 

    For someone who supposedly understands art, you show a clear lack of understanding of the particular art style that WildStar employs. The criteria you are using to judge art style quality is absurd.

    Cory Loftis was the lead designer (who has since been hired by Disney and helped make Wreck if Ralph and Frozen). His template is what the entire game is built around. His art and the artists that have followed are immensely talented and WildStar is more true to its own style than any game out there.

    Plus, to call WildStar "unfinished" is the most ludicrous thing I've seen on these boards yet. Bash the art style, progression mechanics or what have you - but it's the single most feature complete game at release hands down. The game has been finished for some time and they're simply in polish mode. The first content patch at 28 days in will include a new zone and a new battleground. They already have an expansions worth of content in development over the next 12 months and the next 16 months of content is already in pre-production. "Unfinished" is not only uninformed, but it's also completely wrong.

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sayuu
    Originally posted by Netspook
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    Wildstar is an exceptional artistic game. Combat feels smooth, dungeons & raids are fun. 

     

    Stop saying "we" u dont speak for the masses. I have yet to see anyone in the industry share your opinion. You & 2 of your buddies don't speak for the MMO community  :)

     

    Edit: My bad, I thought you were being serious. The comparison to WoW is a red flag for a troll post.

     No, OP doesn't speak for the masses.

    Neither do you, so stop pretending your opinions are facts.

     Is the way you highlighted that, some way to prove me wrong? Just saying because i did it the same way like one post above you, i am not talking trash, just curious.

     

    *edit...im dumb

     

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    your 12/12/12 is so cool, just saying!  image

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Just saw you were from the desert sayuu, peace brother.

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHPosts: 3,415Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by strawhat0981
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by sumdumguy1
    I wanted to like this game, got my character level up and gave it a chance, but its nothing special and got boring very fast.   The game never got me excited story wise and I never had the encapsulated feeling I get when I get into a game and like it.  This is juts another game, not good, not bad but really just average.

    I remember some reviews of WoW when it came out that sounded much like this.

    No really, a lot of people were playing EQ, and DAoC and they heard about this game called 'World of Warcraft' when they picked up a PC gamer mag, and they were like, man this looks pretty average, not good not bad, just average.

    And look where it got them.

    OK laughing-man we get it you love wildstar. Do you really have to defend it teeth and nails?

    Did I hit a nerve?  I'm sorry I upset you?

    Why are you so mad to the point where you are spam posting about how much you hate this game?  I'm really kinda at a loss at this point.

    Oh well I suppose.

  • DaessarDaessar Chino, CAPosts: 204Member
    Originally posted by strawhat0981

    Wow so someone wants something new and now they are put in the "you are old, so it does not matter what you say". I guess kids will be kidsimage

    Huh?

    The idea was that he would be waiting for his "ideal" MMO for so long that he'd grow old, did you actually read the response or just "skim" those loooong 2 sentences? image

  • ChrisboxChrisbox Monroe, NJPosts: 1,707Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by kairel182

    I disagree.  The game ran terribly and the combat was gimmicky and very clunky. 

    This is when everyone stopped reading, you see, they optimized the game, and you clearly didn't give it a go, or have bothered to be in the know enough to realize why the game is still being optimized, and yet it already HAS been quite a bit, even from open beta.

     

    So sir, here is where everyone stopped reading.

    I played until the very last day of open beta and it still ran like garbage on my good PC along with many other peoples. So no, you're incorrect.

    Played-Everything
    Playing-FFXIV:ARR

  • fearufearu Your mom's pantiesPosts: 142Member Uncommon

    It's exactly the same as any other themepark MMO with the usual tweaks in various places, such as raiding and combat in this game, to attempt to distinguish itself in a sea of clones.

     

    Although I agree that Wildstar is nothing special, I didn't figure that out by the way the grass flowed. I just played it, tried out the new stuff and decided it was meh and not for me.

     

     

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by strawhat0981
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by sumdumguy1
    I wanted to like this game, got my character level up and gave it a chance, but its nothing special and got boring very fast.   The game never got me excited story wise and I never had the encapsulated feeling I get when I get into a game and like it.  This is juts another game, not good, not bad but really just average.

    I remember some reviews of WoW when it came out that sounded much like this.

    No really, a lot of people were playing EQ, and DAoC and they heard about this game called 'World of Warcraft' when they picked up a PC gamer mag, and they were like, man this looks pretty average, not good not bad, just average.

    And look where it got them.

    OK laughing-man we get it you love wildstar. Do you really have to defend it teeth and nails?

    Did I hit a nerve?  I'm sorry I upset you?

    Why are you so mad to the point where you are spam posting about how much you hate this game?  I'm really kinda at a loss at this point.

    Oh well I suppose.

    Spam posting, really? I am pretty sure I have not talked trash about WS. Do you feel the need to talk down to people who do not agree with you?

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    If I was spam posting, I think I would have more than 5 posts today.

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Wolcott, NYPosts: 671Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Delerious1

    While the op doesn't speak for the masses, I think alot of you glossing over his main points, which is about quality of design.  To some of you, realistically flowing grass may not be important.  Some of you may not care how your character looks when it strafes side to side.  Some of you may not care about realistic day/night cycles.  Some of you may not care about what the npc's generally do and say as the idle about, but some of us do.

    A huge part of what makes an mmo great, is all the details that contribute to a game world feeling alive.

    You took the words out of my mouth. THANK YOU.

    I am one of those that like the details in a game. I am not talking about photo-realistic graphics. I am talking about details like in GW2 where many of the npcs throughout the world had random voice acted chit chat and in ESO where you have random encounters in the world like beggars and people upset because they are cold and you light a fire to warm them. I like grass to flow nicely and not look like someone stuck pieces of straw in the ground around me. I like it when it rains in the game and the ground and items reflect the wetness. Those things matter to me because they help immerse me in my game play.

    The problem I have with Wildstar is it takes very little like that into consideration. It bearly takes anything serious and with that it does nothing to make me feel connected and immersed in the world and game play.

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by NobleNerd
    Originally posted by Delerious1

    While the op doesn't speak for the masses, I think alot of you glossing over his main points, which is about quality of design.  To some of you, realistically flowing grass may not be important.  Some of you may not care how your character looks when it strafes side to side.  Some of you may not care about realistic day/night cycles.  Some of you may not care about what the npc's generally do and say as the idle about, but some of us do.

     

    It bearly takes anything serious and with that it does nothing to make me feel connected and immersed in the world and game play.

    image I feel the same way, disconnection. WS is awesome and wish it the best, but I feel disconnected from the world.

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • NitthNitth AustraliaPosts: 3,684Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Chrisbox
    Originally posted by Laughing-man Originally posted by kairel182 I disagree.  The game ran terribly and the combat was gimmicky and very clunky. 
    This is when everyone stopped reading, you see, they optimized the game, and you clearly didn't give it a go, or have bothered to be in the know enough to realize why the game is still being optimized, and yet it already HAS been quite a bit, even from open beta.   So sir, here is where everyone stopped reading.
    I played until the very last day of open beta and it still ran like garbage on my good PC along with many other peoples. So no, you're incorrect.

    I cant understand time after time why people believe that "it will be fixed before launch" will actually happen. Its almost like they know how realistic it is but still choose denial and game loyalty instead.

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  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Netspook
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    Wildstar is an exceptional artistic game. Combat feels smooth, dungeons & raids are fun. 

     

    Stop saying "we" u dont speak for the masses. I have yet to see anyone in the industry share your opinion. You & 2 of your buddies don't speak for the MMO community  :)

     

    Edit: My bad, I thought you were being serious. The comparison to WoW is a red flag for a troll post.

     No, OP doesn't speak for the masses.

    Neither do you, so stop pretending your opinions are facts.

    Never did i say it was fact. Reading is fundamental. Ya mad brah?

  • MardukkMardukk Posts: 1,556Member Uncommon
    I'm just glad the game is so poorly optimized that I have 21 - 39 fps running around solo.  While other current game are running 50+ fps.  If they can't figure out a way to optimize the game there is no point in talking about the other aspects.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Bootez

    We've seen this so often. Even I almost bought into the hype. And, at this point, who knows, I may fall into the insanity that is buying this game.

     

    It is insanity for a reason: We keep buying these half-finished MMOs, hoping for that old feeling of adventure. I don't see how this game could possibly be any different. The MMO industry is repeating itself. But this game isn't smooth. It isn't a piece of art.

     

    Art here is important. It is obvious this game isn't a piece of art. If you think I'm wrong, go look how all of the grass on the ground flows at the EXACT same time. It shouldn't. It should flow in waves. This game lacks the fine details that make a game a piece of art. I have yet to find an environment in this game that shows an artist's touch. They are talented, yes, but they aren't putting their souls into this game and it becomes painfully obvious when you take a close look at the textures and animations.

     

    Just like all of the recently mmo releases (Apart from maybe Guild Wars 2?), this game fails in the art department. And unfortunately, that is what makes an MMO a living, breathing thing. It needs the fine details in combat as well as art to make it work, which is why WoW has dominated the scene for so long (Apart from Panda-land, which, regardless of how silly some of the expansion is, the environment is still a work of art). 

     

    Deep down, I feel like we all know this. Even my most-excited gamer friends have realized the failure train that this game is on. 

    You know how stupid this sounds?

     

    You dont give a single game related reason why this specific game would fail?

    So you are telling me this game will fail because all others have failed too?

     

    So you are telling me MMO´s allways fail?

    Well... only for people that dont like MMO´s... thats the kind of people who call these games a fail

    Move on to another genre, or go enjoy real life

     

     

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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