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Name a Sandbox MMO that has come out in the last 8 years that doesn't have FFA PvP

MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,255Member Uncommon
Name a Sandbox MMO that has come out in the last 8 years that doesn't have FFA PvP.

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  • FoobarxFoobarx Poway, CAPosts: 451Member

    [mod edit] ?

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Posts: 5,316Member Uncommon
    Can anyone name more than one sandbox that has come out in the last 8 years?

    Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common

    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
    Can anyone name more than one sandbox that has come out in the last 8 years?

    It doesn't matter they're all pretty awful.

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  • SevalaSevala K, NYPosts: 134Member
    Originally posted by Quirhid

    It doesn't matter they're all pretty awful.

    ^^^ This

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  • MightykingMightyking CapellePosts: 233Member Uncommon

    A Tale in the Desert

    Wurm Online

     

    You're welcome.

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Atlanta, GAPosts: 2,014Member Common
    Xsyon now has a PVE server and even before that you were always safe within the boundaries of your own land.

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  • AnthurAnthur StolbergPosts: 686Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mightyking

    A Tale in the Desert

    Wurm Online

     

    You're welcome.

    A Tale in the desert was released 2003 first. So that one is out.

    Wurm online was release 6/6/2006 accoring to wikipedia. Here you are right, but man, that was close. ;)

  • MightykingMightyking CapellePosts: 233Member Uncommon

    And yet the PvP croud seems to be fishing for the idea that sandboxes and PvP are synonyms. But yet there's nothing in sand that says go kill your neighbour.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Vancouver, BCPosts: 4,818Member
    Can anyone name one in the last 8 years that would make an aaa developer say lets try and copy that success?
  • HefaistosHefaistos BucharestPosts: 186Member
    Beside Darkfall which other game has Free For All pvp ?
  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Chicago, ILPosts: 2,231Member Uncommon
    Second Life...Not only does it have no FFA PvP, it is also the most important sandbox game, from an intellectual standpoint.

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  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Zod, CAPosts: 743Member Uncommon

    Do we need another one of these threads?

    Some will make the point that any sandbox needs pvp ...

    Some will make the point that sandboxes don't ...

    Sandboxes are just games where the tools are given for players to make their own choices

    Whats left for discussion?

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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member

    I can't name a single MMO that has FFA PvP, ever.  Maybe UO?

    Most have zones that prevent PvP, not to mention you can't attack your own faction.

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  • evilizedevilized columbus, OHPosts: 564Member Uncommon
    Pvp will always go with sandbox because sandboxes are about player freedom. There are often consequences for a player's negative actions but they can do what they want.

    Here's another challenge, name any AAA quality sandbox that has been released in the past 12 years... you can't because one does not exist.

    Also nice troll post OP.
  • ThoemseThoemse DornbirnPosts: 452Member Uncommon
    It's a money grab but here we go: Entropia Universe.
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,666Member Uncommon

    vMTV, Free Realms, Hello Kitty Online

    Releasing a sandbox focused MMO without open world PVP is like releasing a themepark MMO without some form of PVP. You get that vocal minority that becomes obsessed with crapping all over your game in every channel they can find to do so, as if it is some violation of the laws of nature to leave such a feature out. 

     

     

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  • MyriaMyria Lowell, MAPosts: 570Member Uncommon

    I walk by a real sandbox -- there's a childcare facility with an enclosed outdoor playground in this building -- several times a day and I've yet to see anyone get shanked there.

     

    Hell, I don't even see kids destroying other kid's sand castles, at least not without the teacher telling the little snot in question that if he does it again he'll get a time out.

     

    Odd... I wonder if they know they're doing it wrong?

  • trancefatetrancefate zionsville, INPosts: 134Member
    Originally posted by Myria

    I walk by a real sandbox -- there's a childcare facility with an enclosed outdoor playground in this building -- several times a day and I've yet to see anyone get shanked there.

     

    Hell, I don't even see kids destroying other kid's sand castles, at least not without the teacher telling the little snot in question that if he does it again he'll get a time out.

     

    Odd... I wonder if they know they're doing it wrong?

    Wish I grew up in your neighborhood.

  • HatefullHatefull Posts: 773Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by evilized
    Pvp will always go with sandbox because sandboxes are about player freedom. There are often consequences for a player's negative actions but they can do what they want. Here's another challenge, name any AAA quality sandbox that has been released in the past 12 years... you can't because one does not exist. Also nice troll post OP.

    SWG, while arguably a Sand box with various theme parks, was most definitely a Triple A MMO. It had consensual PvP and it did quite well until it was 'fixed' to death.

    Up coming, Arche age, the Repopulation, I know you said released, but patience they are coming. Then what argument will you use? Because this one is weak and false any way, better head to the drawing board.

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  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by asmkm22

    I can't name a single MMO that has FFA PvP, ever.  Maybe UO?

    Most have zones that prevent PvP, not to mention you can't attack your own faction.

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  • KopogeroKopogero Shevat, ONPosts: 897Member Uncommon

    @ OP

    PvP is a concept of a Player versus a Player. It can be a competition in a combat or crafting or any other activity that the game is focused on.

    For instance World of Warcraft has GvG which stands for Guilds vs Guilds progression competition and so on. So embrace any game that allows freedom and tools for its players to compete.

    Of course the current PvP with guilds in WOW is frowned upon since guilds that invest most times through the weeks usually are the most progressive, but that's not the discussion about.

  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Zod, CAPosts: 743Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by trancefate
    Originally posted by Myria

    I walk by a real sandbox -- there's a childcare facility with an enclosed outdoor playground in this building -- several times a day and I've yet to see anyone get shanked there.

     

    Hell, I don't even see kids destroying other kid's sand castles, at least not without the teacher telling the little snot in question that if he does it again he'll get a time out.

     

    Odd... I wonder if they know they're doing it wrong?

    Wish I grew up in your neighborhood.

    Me too. 

    Kids used to step on the castle and spit in your face just because your hair was a different color.

    I also wish we were talking about a literal "sandbox" and groups or individuals in their adolescence...

    not the case, regrettably...

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  • apocolusterapocoluster newport news, VAPosts: 1,321Member Uncommon
    lol I almost cant believe i was beat to 2nd Life and HKO as awnsers...  ^5 you two

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  • DocBrodyDocBrody EldridgePosts: 1,820Member

    this is just hilarious.

     

    Lots of people who are actually the EXACT target group of themepark MMOs (optional PvP)

    debating sandbox MMOs and why sandbox MMOs should all become themeparks.

     

    what's next? Should PvP have a need for actual Players or could bots pretend to be players?

    Is a cheeseburger without cheese a hamburger, or still a cheeseburger?

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Phoenix, AZPosts: 958Member Uncommon
    This thread has been a fun read so far.

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

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