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Wildstar vs ESO poll

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  • SuperchieftianSuperchieftian Portland, ORPosts: 88Member
    Originally posted by skoupidi
    Originally posted by Superchieftian

    ESO is a game that is filled with bots, dupes, bugs and lack of decent combat. There is no endgame still after a month and half of being out. It is unplayable and can not be taken seriously.  It could be the biggest cash grab of all time with F2P already around the corner.

     

    Wildstar is a game that is poorly optimized going into launch. It is a WoW clone (even the developers are proud to call themselves that) with housing (decent). The leveling part of the game consists of quest grinding with horrible story (text is too small to care after awhile too) and endgame is 40 man raids which is just an easy way out of making real good content for the game. F2P may not hit as soon as ESO will, but give it about a year once the whole "fight the ground instead of the enemies" gimmick combat starts to get old.

     

    So who is the clear winner? Any MMO that is not ESO or Wildstar.

     

     

    I don't know what kind of endgame you expect from temeparks.But raids, dungeos, adventures, shiphands, arenas,bg's, warplots, it doesn't seem like they took the easy way out to me. They took the easy way out for questing, but you can't say the same about their endgame.

    Grind the same dungeons and quest over and over is what it boils down to. Exactly like all the other games. The 40 man raids are the only aspect of the game that is different then others. PVP is just a spamfest of telegraphs.

  • skoupidiskoupidi ThessalonikiPosts: 225Member
    Originally posted by Superchieftian
    Originally posted by skoupidi
    Originally posted by Superchieftian

    ESO is a game that is filled with bots, dupes, bugs and lack of decent combat. There is no endgame still after a month and half of being out. It is unplayable and can not be taken seriously.  It could be the biggest cash grab of all time with F2P already around the corner.

     

    Wildstar is a game that is poorly optimized going into launch. It is a WoW clone (even the developers are proud to call themselves that) with housing (decent). The leveling part of the game consists of quest grinding with horrible story (text is too small to care after awhile too) and endgame is 40 man raids which is just an easy way out of making real good content for the game. F2P may not hit as soon as ESO will, but give it about a year once the whole "fight the ground instead of the enemies" gimmick combat starts to get old.

     

    So who is the clear winner? Any MMO that is not ESO or Wildstar.

     

     

    I don't know what kind of endgame you expect from temeparks.But raids, dungeos, adventures, shiphands, arenas,bg's, warplots, it doesn't seem like they took the easy way out to me. They took the easy way out for questing, but you can't say the same about their endgame.

    Grind the same dungeons and quest over and over is what it boils down to. Exactly like all the other games. The 40 man raids are the only aspect of the game that is different then others. PVP is just a spamfest of telegraphs.

    I'm with you on that. But it feels kind of moot to complain about themeparks having this kind of endgame. Thats just how it is.

  • KinadoKinado lisbonPosts: 198Member

    Both have a different feel to it. Wildstar has more quality overall as a game, more features, more social aspects, more content, more challenging, more everything besides voice acted dialogue.

    If Wildstar had all that dialogue from quests it would probably be more immersive leveling up but at what cost do we need MMO's to invest so much on only one aspect of the game?

    ESO did that and besides questing, the game comes out lacking horribly.

    Maybe you like more the fantasy setting, realistic graphics, story and feel of ESO but there's no denying that Wildstar is the superior game overall. It just has a much bigger package.

    I don't really like to see the floor flooded with telegraphs all the time but truth is, when you're playing it, it's intense. You know what to avoid, you know what your target is, its just a matter of reflexes and skill how you execute everything. Oh yes, skill matters a lot in this game, there's no stone/paper/scissors combat. Be fast or be dead.

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,946Member Uncommon
    I prefer telegraphs to popping messages and cooldown bars which is ofc the alternative used by games like wow (aka Compulsary dbm etc)

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  • BigbooBigboo Posts: 201Member

    I vote for Eso, as WS was totally unplayable for me in beta, to laggy.

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  • CrusadesCrusades Columbus, OHPosts: 480Member
    Voted WS - i probably wont buy it - but with reference to the poll, any game vs eso - I would have voted for the other game.
  • HorusraHorusra maryland, MDPosts: 2,583Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Crusades
    Voted WS - i probably wont buy it - but with reference to the poll, any game vs eso - I would have voted for the other game.

    So instead of picking neither you went with the other game to spite ESO.....another reason why polls are useless.

  • RoguewizRoguewiz Lampasas, TXPosts: 614Member Uncommon

    Wildstar is the better game, despite the horrible system performance.

    People that expect an open world, do whatever you want, experience in an MMO; are deluding themselves.

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  • CrusadesCrusades Columbus, OHPosts: 480Member
    Originally posted by Horusra
    Originally posted by Crusades
    Voted WS - i probably wont buy it - but with reference to the poll, any game vs eso - I would have voted for the other game.

    So instead of picking neither you went with the other game to spite ESO.....another reason why polls are useless.

    Well the question was "Which one do you like more?" I like WS more, but I like anything better than eso - so that doesn't say much for WS either.

  • Tutu2Tutu2 MelbournePosts: 564Member Uncommon
    Wildstar wins out. I hate the art-style, especially the character models, but it has better game design then ESO. The problem with Wildstar is how *booooooring* the first 15-20 levels are. Beyond that is is a much more fun game then ESO (played 2 characters up to level 30 before quitting in boredom)
  • Jairoe03Jairoe03 Winthrop Harbor, ILPosts: 732Member

    Isn't this pretty much comparing apples to oranges? Just ask which game everyone likes more theme-park MMORPG's or the Elder Scrolls series? Just because they fall within the same genre doesn't make them all that comparable and its a matter of personal preference (especially in combat style) and theme/environment/graphic style etc.

  • PpiperPpiper Horsham, PAPosts: 648Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by DMKano

    This would be equivlant of a movie poll 

    Gigli vs Ishtar

     

    I dont know either of those....

    I know both and they both sucked... point taken. 

  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    ESO easily.  I can play it all day and my eyes don't melt out of my skull.  Wildstar's graphics give me headaches.
  • thunderCthunderC miami flPosts: 472Member Uncommon

    Well acording to the poll i am in the minority here as I equally  like both games. I really enjoy eso for the realistic tone to the world, The immersion factor is high and the game just really entertains. Wildstar is like being sucked in a pixar movie with a dash of looney tunes.It is so different from eso yet HIGHLY addictive to play. This will be the first time in the 8 or 9 years of playing MMO's i will attempt to juggle/play 2 at the same time, They are just BOTH that good to me. 

       I do feel like Wildstar may win out in the long run as the idea of jumping back into a guild to do "vanilla wow" esque type raiding sounds like fun. That would be a major time commitment though and i would be forced to drop eso. Time will tell though And i still have yet to touch ESO's pvp which basically is its endgame so who knows..... Just enjoying the ride

  • thunderCthunderC miami flPosts: 472Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ecoces
    the MMORPG.com hipster says "omg how can anyone like either of these terrible games, they are not sandbox games that dumb the genre down to the lowest common denominator. anyone that plays either of these games should be ashamed of themselves."

    HA I was thinking the same thing, So many of the same people on this site do nothing but post negative thread after negative thread about every game, I use to think they were trolling but now i relaize they are just miserable, lol . I think they are burned out on the genre and dont even know it.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,065Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by thunderC

    Well acording to the poll i am in the minority here as I equally  like both games. I really enjoy eso for the realistic tone to the world, The immersion factor is high and the game just really entertains. Wildstar is like being sucked in a pixar movie with a dash of looney tunes.It is so different from eso yet HIGHLY addictive to play. This will be the first time in the 8 or 9 years of playing MMO's i will attempt to juggle/play 2 at the same time, They are just BOTH that good to me. 

       I do feel like Wildstar may win out in the long run as the idea of jumping back into a guild to do "vanilla wow" esque type raiding sounds like fun. That would be a major time commitment though and i would be forced to drop eso. Time will tell though And i still have yet to touch ESO's pvp which basically is its endgame so who knows..... Just enjoying the ride

    Well, you are not alone, i am in  the same ship, and thats why i started this thread in the first place..

     

    But i can see why, as both these games are very different from eachother in the way they try to present themselves..

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • sgelsgel HeraklionPosts: 1,087Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by thunderC

    Well acording to the poll i am in the minority here as I equally  like both games. I really enjoy eso for the realistic tone to the world, The immersion factor is high and the game just really entertains. Wildstar is like being sucked in a pixar movie with a dash of looney tunes.It is so different from eso yet HIGHLY addictive to play. This will be the first time in the 8 or 9 years of playing MMO's i will attempt to juggle/play 2 at the same time, They are just BOTH that good to me. 

       I do feel like Wildstar may win out in the long run as the idea of jumping back into a guild to do "vanilla wow" esque type raiding sounds like fun. That would be a major time commitment though and i would be forced to drop eso. Time will tell though And i still have yet to touch ESO's pvp which basically is its endgame so who knows..... Just enjoying the ride

    Well, you are not alone, i am in  the same ship, and thats why i started this thread in the first place..

    You like both games but started a VS thread which you know creates antagonism?

    ..Cake..

  • KinadoKinado lisbonPosts: 198Member

    ESO should have learned with SWTOR, apparently it did not. Story cannot be the main pillar of a MMO. Story you go through it once and you're done with it. MMO's need replayability, longevity. Carrots on a stick that will keep players subbed for years.

    Its great to have fully voiced quests with cutscenes but not so great when the rest of the game comes out lacking heavily because of it. Specially when most players will skip through the dialogue.

    I've heard every single line of dialogue until level 50 up to the end of the main story questline. After that it gave me a horrible excuse to go to enemy faction lands, battle my own faction, only to hear more dialogue from still NPC's that flap their displaced mouths like a puppet for another 100 levels worth of questing. I'm a good person, what have I done to deserve this treatment? It's freaking torture.

    It would be great if the game had more stuff to do and more ways to level up. I could experience ESO in other ways and then come back to the quests when I felt like it and it would be great. But no, the game forces you to quest. And the bugs...the imbalance in pvp... the futile siegine rinse and repeat... the horror. I really want ESO to become a great MMO so I can subscribe again to it but the actual state of the game is an extremely buggy single player game at best.

    Wildstar on the other hand, doesn't have fully voiced quests even though it has quite a few cutscenes where ESO has none but nevermind that, it offers you many ways to level up and to experience the game:

    Zone quests, story quests, side quests, path quests, challenges, crafting, world pvp, arena pvp, battleground pvp, mini-dungeons, dungeons, adventures, world bosses and all of this is before you reach level cap. At level cap the game really opens up with more of the same but harder plus 20-40 man raids and 40vs40 warplots. Huge amount of carrots on a stick.

    There's housing too for those who like it, I don't appreciate it but I can recognize that's a very complete housing feature.

    As you see if you put ESO and Wildstar next to each other, there's no doubt which one comes out the better game. It's not even a fair fight. I prefer ESO's graphics and lore but that is not enough for a MMO to survive. Wildstar comes out the better game by far feature-wise alone.

    What's more worrying is that Craiglorn, the first major patch of ESO that will introduce the first endgame content, is falling behind on their promise of 4-6 weeks content releases to justify the monhtly fee. Zenimax officially said they have been working on Craiglorn for a year now and still its delayed. How will they release meaningful content in a regular basis in a game that launched needing desperately more content?

    Would love to see ESO become an amazing MMO, unfortunately I'm not seeing it happen any time soon. I hope they don't give up on it so I can go back to it some day and experience a proper Elder Scrolls MMO.

  • NeherunNeherun St. MichelPosts: 278Member

    Played both of them, and if I had to choose, I would play Elder Scrolls Online. Yet I cancelled my sub to that game as well, so I chose "I dislike both". Whilst I do not dislike them, they both bored me enough to the point I wouldn't play either one of them.

     

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  • QuesaQuesa Sacramento, CAPosts: 1,246Member
    Originally posted by Neherun

    Played both of them, and if I had to choose, I would play Elder Scrolls Online. Yet I cancelled my sub to that game as well, so I chose "I dislike both". Whilst I do not dislike them, they both bored me enough to the point I wouldn't play either one of them.

     

    +1 on this

  • SaluteSalute AthensPosts: 764Member Uncommon
    The real point is retention, so despite i prefer WS as a game, time will tell which one will do it better in the long term :)

    All Time Favorites: EQ1, WoW, EvE, GW1
    Playing Now: WS, ESO, GW2

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXPosts: 5,348Member

    Wildstar is too much of a cartoon. I play games for immersion.

    EOS is just robbery of the Elder Scrolls Series

    Correlation does not imply causation

  • HeretiqueHeretique Posts: 1,101Member Uncommon
    They're both terrible.

    Originally posted by salsa41
    are you have problem ?

  • ZadawnZadawn SPosts: 651Member Common
    I feel like i played those two for the past 10 years. I dislike both.

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  • MothanosMothanos ArnhemPosts: 1,860Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Bigboo
    I vote for Eso, as WS was totally unplayable for me in beta, to laggy.

    Funny you mention this as there are tons of players who need to wait 2 seconds before they can weapon swap or have a 20 second freeze in Cyrodiil.

    And this is ESO post launch not a beta build, but a LIVE build 2 months after release.

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