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If you'd asked me two weeks ago I would have agreed with this review... then I was reminded what was lacking when I got the opportunity to play both wildstar and archeage. Not to mention I bought the d3 epansion and suddenly I found myself not logging into ESO and instead playing those games. I'd still put it in the 7s but low 7s. Until now I've never played just the first free month on a new MMO. I left planning on coming back when I've less on my plate or need a change in flavor.
It's a good game but I found the disguised quest hubs and copy pasta galore a bad taste in my mouth. I'd rather play a mmo that allows you to diverge from the expected path or at least smooths that path enough that when you encounter a good storyline comes it's a treat not a chore. Too much of a good thing can devalue the overall package. I like to play my MMOs along with an audio book, play music, or while I watch a show. Heck I found it hard to be in vent with guildies as they were more distracting than a pleasant diversion as you had to listen to each and every npc talk if you didn't just want to miss out on a lot of the game. I'm not sure that full voice acting is really all that great in these games. Seems like an expensive waste of resources when we've become so used to actually being social while online. This game is a mmo with a bad habit of making sure you play by yourself.
Totally subjective on my part. I know many who don't want to read ever. I can understand why but that's my take. It could just be the way it never let you off the string or some such but I found myself skipping cutscenes far too often here. At least I wasn't forced to listen to my character talk like in SWTOR. Loved the crafting emphasis and enjoyed the overall ability to play your class as you want... still, why not let us change classes on the fly? I think FFXIV and archeage just spoiled me. *shrugs*
You can't please everyone with a game. I played a few mmos and when I came by this game, it just turned me the wrong way. I didn't have fun, I only played for only an hour or so, but if I don't like the game by then I doubt I will after 20+ hours.
Read reviews if you must and some watch videos and if it looks interesting enough to try then buy it.
If your not having fun your doing it wrong.
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7.9? Really? The game is far from being a 7.9, damn they were to lazy to add underwater swimming and exploration. ::sigh:: This game is average at best and once again you guys score this game way beyond what it actually deserves. Just as you have done with any and all AAA titles - and none of them deserved the scores they got either. You are totally misleading players into thinking this game is better than average and a good game. It is littered with bugs(still), it has major issues with PvE and you gave it a score of 8 despite the fact that the game destroys group play. You can't even go back and help a player that is lower than you do a quest. One of the biggest complaints in the game is the social aspect and you gave it an 8. 9 for aesthetics - seriously? It is just cut and pasted most everywhere you look...like Aion was, and the view distance is for crap. The animations are pure - well, just bad. This deserves a 9?
I can go on...but why bother...typical bloated score from MMORPG.com. The best this game would get from me is a 5.5 at most - and just like all the other mediocre, generic themeparks since WoW I give this game less than a year and it'll be a ghost town, slipping into the abyss of poorly made games.
i dont think youre bothered by the copied dungeons - i wasnt ....doesnt take away from the immersion - other players and bots are much worse...
I would completly agree with 95% of the review - except longevity...i dont see it...but then again, i dont see longevity for any themepark
I don't get it, how do you give GW2 a 9.3 , TSW a 8.5 and FF14 8.4? I am starting to think you guys are getting paid for real, sure the game has bugs but lets be real, this game has more content then the 3 games above combined let alone deep story and lore.
You guys are losing your touch.
Spot on review. To note the normal and usual trolls are back and completely upset that with all the non-playing the game critiques they have spewing did nothing to sway this honest review. I mean really Meta-Critic? HA
Forums are hardly a place to get an accurate review of anything. In-game is so much different than what these obvious P2P haters eject out there its not even funny.
And wow the the cute little pic being thrown around about what the dungeons look like is patently false. Some look alike, most don't with a lot of quest occuring out in the open world. I love when a person reads this crap and goes OMGZ really???? LOLZ with out even playing the game and just believing some random guy again NOT playing the game..
The PVP area is HUGE been playing a month and i havent even seen all the area yet....
So to reviewer KUDOS on an honest review and to all the haters?...well you will find something else to hate
Originally posted by MadFrenchie Originally posted by gwei1984 Originally posted by Ikeda This picture makes me laugh every time:
I know it doesnt fit your troll agenda and populism, but these are just the bunch of small world dungeons/caves. Why not talk about the 15 large public dungeons and 16 unique instanced group dungeons that are in the game and are not even close to copy/paste?
So much misinformation and BS here...../facepalm
It does say "31 are not duplicated." If you'd like, we can talk about how clearing a room full of mobs that pull simultaneously in one of these instanced group dungeons netted me just a few trash items and a mere 23 gold (we're talking 10+ mobs in said dungeon). Or how the entire dungeon, while level appropriate for my character, yielded me (even with quest reward) about 1/4 level for my character, if that. Or how the drops worth picking up from the dungeon totaled 2 items. The solo quests/dungeons are a much more efficient endeavor. I'm all for group content for the sheer challenge and teamwork, and I enjoyed that dungeon experience, but if that kind of balancing act continues, no one will care to run them. ESO encourages the solo player. That group content, while not copy/pasted, isn't even worth the time.
yeap.. and those 31 dungeons they're talking about...don't include the ones he was talking about
I mean think about that for a second..over 100 dungeons in a game...and people are like "well they have 70 that look the same"...How anal can you people be?
I mean bloody hell people...
"ESO looks and feels like a TES game to me. I feel just as connected to Tamriel in ESO as I did in Skyrim and Oblivion"
Absurd, period. It looks like a TES game but that is where it stops. This entire statement makes me want to throw up actually.
7.9??? You are having a laugh!!!!
No more than 5, flawed by design. Guess they pend alot of advetising money on mmorpg.com eh?
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Originally posted by Viper482 "ESO looks and feels like a TES game to me. I feel just as connected to Tamriel in ESO as I did in Skyrim and Oblivion" Absurd, period. It looks like a TES game but that is where it stops. This entire statement makes me want to throw up actually.
Well he had a nice write up as to why he thinks it does, you just want to throw up. So tell us why it doesn't feel like any other Elder Scroll game.
Here's what i find funny, Gw2 gets a 9.2...or whatever....When I remember leveling up in that game consisting of
A. People running the same "Group" Even Chain over and over again... for example..Centaurs invade land, we follow what was basically a rip off of Warhammer Public Quest system to the different events and then get a chest at the end.
B. Standing in front of a Cave hitting the 1 key with a Greatsword while mobs spawned...I could only stand about 30 mins of this before i found it boring... but pretty much every single zone had one of these and the Koreans and Chinese were farming it.
C. Sweeping up some NPC's porch, or removing graffti...or some other terrible pointless shit...Like hey..I need you to pick the fruit from this tree...Congrats you filled up the heart and get some XP...Just like Public Quests in Warhammer online with stages...
D. Crafting 40 levels..Like Seriously...If crafting did not give XP in GW2..there is no way i would of gotten 80... the pve is bloody awful... Pretty much every Alt i've made i've lvled entirely by crafting because the PvE is that bad..its so bad i never even finished the main story of the game.
I am pretty sure that i remember the author of this article said something like "well do no expect anything 8 or higher from me lol" in some thread.
(Oh yes i found it: "ESO won't be quite that low, but don't expect an 8 or higher from me either. For what it's worth, our reviews as a whole at MMORPG scale lower than our colleagues across the web.") http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6302496
Well, he kept his word. 7.9 is lower then 8.
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One of my biggest gripes so far is the combat. It just doesn't feel satisfying. I can't say for sure exactly what the problem is. Maybe it's the sound and/or animation. It's not visceral at all. It doesn't feel solid. Maybe it will get better as time goes on and they polish the game more. Maybe not.
The combat in TERA and Neverwinter just feels good. I feel like I am making contact with something solid. Of course those games have other issues (in my opinion).
I wish some company could get all the major components correct in a single game. It just doesn't seem like it is ever gonna happen.
Anyone else feel this way?
Originally posted by Necropsie I am pretty sure that i remember the author of this article said something like "well do no expect anything 8 or higher from me lol" in some thread. (Oh yes i found it: "ESO won't be quite that low, but don't expect an 8 or higher from me either. For what it's worth, our reviews as a whole at MMORPG scale lower than our colleagues across the web.") http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6302496 Well, he kept his word. 7.9 is lower then 8. Interesting read. Good PR bulletin.
Yes that's what I found odd. It seems as though he changed his mind for some reason and decided to rate it higher than he'd intended. And bearing in mind what he'd said previously gave it this weird 7.9 score. I can't believe he was intending to give it 7.9 when he wrote that.
Originally posted by Mahlo Originally posted by Necropsie I am pretty sure that i remember the author of this article said something like "well do no expect anything 8 or higher from me lol" in some thread. (Oh yes i found it: "ESO won't be quite that low, but don't expect an 8 or higher from me either. For what it's worth, our reviews as a whole at MMORPG scale lower than our colleagues across the web.") http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6302496 Well, he kept his word. 7.9 is lower then 8. Interesting read. Good PR bulletin.
I guess some kind of miracle happened in between
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Originally posted by Nanfoodle Originally posted by syriinx Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Ooo if thats the open world dungeons not a huge deal, I thought that was their main dungeons for teaming lol. Over 100 open world dungeons IMO even with similar lay out and different windows dressings should be applauded. Most MMOs dont even take the time to make 1 open world dungeon.
That looks to me like quest caves
No different than what WoW does.
Open world dungeons and a cave that has a quest objective is very different.
Not really. Where do you get the quest in ESO's open world solo dungeons?
Originally posted by Satsunoryu Originally posted by boxsnd GW2: 9.3 SWTOR: 8.7 Aion: 8.7 Rift: 8.7 D3: 8.5 Warhammer Online: 8.3 ESO: 7.9 When you compare it to earlier reviews 7.9 seems fair. They generally give out way too high scores. Personally I would give ESO a 5 or a 6.
Your point is valid, appreciate this information. Pretty much agree with all of this.
You know friend before this review i wrote here 5/10 and i get temprorary ban. Now most of people think same of me. i think moderaotr must consider fairly before judge.
Here are my silly ratings..
GAMEPLAY - 9 I havent had this much fun in a long time, even more fun then GW2 last year (which i enjoyed a lot)
AESTHETICS – 10 as i personally think its the most beatifull world in any MMO
INNOVATION - 7 Taking known things to the limit... its evolution, not revolution... however the crafting system is different and prommising... and they introduced some Elder scrolls stuff to the MMO world...
POLISH - 4 The totall number of bugs is totally unacceptable
LONGEVITY - 9 eternal leveling approach, not an alting game, but a single char that can enjoy it all... mostly depends on if they can push enough hard content to keep average joe that plays 20 to 40 hours a week busy with the new content...
SOCIAL - 5 There are no tools for socialising, but then if you find a few good guilds you are okay.. but there is a lot of work to be done, to overcome the current hurdles
VALUE - 9 BEst MMO since WoW, it feels fresh and immersive... and there is more then enough carrots to keep me going for a very long time.... espescially if they can add the stuff they prommised like Adventure zones, Spell creator, criminal system, mentoring and such... They are only starting
all in all i would say 77%, because of the obvious problems so far.... if they solve them before the console release.... it will be eipc with WoWish player numbers on consoles...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
i believe the gameplay and the value are overestimated on your review : )
i dunno if anything changed since beta, but although i am fan of action combat, in ESO's case it is executed really poorly just as my english ! lol