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TESO: It's not me, it's you
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Cool story... can I has your stuff?
I'm in the same boat ROFL - I have been messing with making the perfect character for me... and apparently I don't know what I want haha. I'm having a blast and just hit 12 on my dood.
Can you name a few that were game breaking for me? Just want to make sure I can avoid them.
I can't understand why posters would flame the OP for playing the game for 100 hrs. and then ask for a refund.
Is that what MMOs have come to these days?
I thought MMOs were meant to be played for years.
I played Ultima on Line for 6 or 7 years, EVE for about the same amount of years.
I don't enjoy Theme Parks , but I still played Aion for over 2 years, and spent several years playing Vanguard.
If 100 hours is considered the completion of an MMO, then the future looks very bleak for the genre.
http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415
I am sure the fact that MTibbs1989 submitted bug reports (over 50 from comments above) will have supported his case that the game wasn't working "as it should". Throw in the extra server downtime, security issues and maybe bank bug issues etc.
Products - as a whole - have gotten better since the first mmos launched; from cars to kettles. The same is true of software.
Noaki Yoshida's (FFXIV:ARR) spoke about FFXIV at GDC 2014. One of his slides: Three Easy Steps to Failure:
i know you like the game still and are just frustrated right now, it happens plus youve played a lot. By your post history here which i read a lot of threads just choose not to comment in them you are usually positive about the game , thats why im not bashing you for the frustration like others are. But you know you are going to want to play this after this subsides, you enjoyed the game and you liked it enough to get all the way past 50 almost to 60. So dont ask for a refund and throw away your hard work over stuff that is going to be fixed in probably less than a month because of frustration. No games are perfect you played AO and you know that. Right now as you can see in their posts on the forums everything is pretty much devoted to fighting these bots , so much so today they had to block private messaging due to bot spam messing up the systems. So frustration or not dont take the route of getting all pissed off demanding a refund and later on regretting it, as you do enjoy the game and are not just posting like some of the jerkoff twits here who just complain because they can and enjoy trolling every thread with ESO listed on it.
After that are the fans that say "These bugs are okay - you the player have the problem! All new MMOs have bugs, botters, trainers, lost items, cheaters, banning of innocents, gold spammers, scammers, item dups, and speed hacks -and TESO is free of blame and responsibility. It's the player that complains that is the true issue!"
The thing is, if you are a terrible person, why is he calling you his friend? You should have known better Mtibbs! I think (almost) everyone already knew that this game was going to be buggy, and more so than your average AAA MMO release. You should have waited at least 3 months. The only 3 reasons I can think of as to why you joined at release was 1. You were not currently playing another MMO. 2. You had guildmates/real life friends who were going to jump in from the get-go. 3. It had the Elder Scroll Skin™ on top of a (mostly) generic MMO wrapper.
Are you planning on trying Wildstar or ArcheAge or are you taking a break from MMOs in 2014?
Overall, I've lived a clean life. No criminal history, etc etc. I've made some bad decisions in my life, I've done some questionable things that I probably shouldn't have. Most of which are typical human mistakes we learn to grow up from and move on to become a better person......we hope. I've never asked for a refund on a video game. But if that was the worst thing I ever did, I think I'd have lived a pretty honorable life to this point. But then to be told I'm a terrible person for doing it?
Some of you guys have no idea what terrible people do.
Personally, I think it's good the OP stood up for himself. Everyone is so focused on what he got out of it, no one gave any creedence to what he didn't (ZM's responsibility) Companies need to be accountable for what they publish, how else is that going to happen?
This thread should be used as a textbook case in why the gaming industry is going to the pit. Interpret that any way you see fit.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
They're both products being sold with an intended or implied use. The apples and oranges argument is what software companies use to bend customers over a counter and ream them.
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hey OP come check out archeage, we got no game breaking bugs. open world pvp , siege, build tons of stuff.
oh no phasing and no instancing zones.
You can group for quests, farm, siege, burn down players house, steal their crops and their resources.
man its the best mmorpg since everquest.
In post #59 you say you got your refund. So how would you do this? (post #152 for those curious.) Did they refund your money as well as allow you to keep your account active? That would make them a pretty stand up company I would think. I see a consistency issue.
I'd say that would point more to a disorganized company if they refunded but forgot to disable the account.
Not to sound snarky with your last statement, but welcome to 2005... or maybe 2007... hold on I really have to check my calendar. You gave some good examples of MMOs (released prior to 2006) but that has vastly changed in the past 8-9 years. As years have gone by, MMOs have become more and more casual; catering more and more to the single player or duo player mentality.
Games can now be “completed” within the 100 or 200 hour mark for hardcore and semi-hardcore gamers. Sure they may be missing a few things here and there, but for all intent and purposes they have experienced almost everything that these theme park games have to offer. People will usually subscribe for a month or three… and in some cases get the six month package; but they will rarely go beyond that except for die-hard fans or late comers.
Think about it in this way. Every single P2P MMORPG released from 2005 till now has closed down, gone F2P or in most cases F2P and P2W (with huge server merges along with it). There are currently only 4 MMORPGs (released post 2005) that operate using only the P2P business model. A good portion of MMO gamers have treated these AAA theme park games as if they were single players games; they will play for a couple of months and then quit (some do go back of course).
Honestly this shouldn’t come to a surprise to no one as to the current state of MMOs or why recent games are treated as single player games… I should have given this memo to all of the developers in 2005. Nah! I would’ve been called an armchair developer, so what the hell do I know!
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
My D3 is still active and I got a refund using the 15 day refund policy at launch. Though they refused to give it to me on day 15..so I went through Paypal and reversed the charges. So, that might be why..lol
Got it for free and I still don't want to play it..that says a lot.